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[FyreWulff]

Ok? While i agree what he did was horrible and deserves a punishment, this is even more worrisome to me. How can we still live in a society where exposing graphical evidence of a female doing something we all do and enjoy doing (sex) can lead to such dramatic consequences? Are we in the Victorian Era still? So gross.

yes

 

[neorej]

Ok? While i agree what he did was horrible and deserves a punishment, this is even more worrisome to me. How can we still live in a society where exposing graphical evidence of a female doing something we all do and enjoy doing (sex) can lead to such dramatic consequences? Are we in the Victorian Era still? So gross.

Yeah, some comunities and families are still stuck in the Middle Ages, where a woman's chastity and honor is perceived as a precious and delicate thing.

 

[Moff]

wait, does that mean revenge porn is real?
what about casting couch and bang bus?

 

[knicks]

What about that guy Hunter Moore? Whatever happened to him? I thought he ran a similar scheme.

 

[Symphonia]

wait, does that mean revenge porn is real?
what about casting couch and bang bus?

If you believe Casting Couch is real, I got news for you, son.

 

[Sheriff_Battlesnake]

wait, does that mean revenge porn is real?
what about casting couch and bang bus?

I'm going to say a big NO to Bang Bus. You can't fool me, they isn't just some girl off the streets! That's well featured adult film actress _______ ________. Also, the whole "dumping girls on the street after basically rape" power fantasy gives me the heebie jeebies.

 

[AyaisMUsikWhore]

Yeah, some comunities and families are still stuck in the Middle Ages, where a woman's chastity and honor is perceived as a precious and delicate thing.

This may be true, but I guess we are not going to move further if this type of distribution is just to shame and embarrass people more than it being a something that two adults consent to.

 

[Vincent Grayson]

I'm going to say a big NO to Bang Bus. You can't fool me, they isn't just some girl off the streets! That's well featured adult film actress _______ ________. Also, the whole "dumping girls on the street after basically rape" power fantasy gives me the heebie jeebies.

I remember back when I wondered if Bang Bus was real, especially after seeing a particularly uncomfortable and rapey scene maybe 10 years ago or so, and I was relieved when I found out it was all fake.

 

[The Abominable Snowman]

Can we get some info on ThugBait and BaitBus?

Some time ago one of those sites was also in the middle of being taken down or being fined, as some of those scenes were very real. Now I think they still bait but IDK how exactly their selection process goes.

 

[Maninthemirror]

What kind of a twisted mind can even conceive of doing this

 

[CarpeDeezNutz]

The new Godwin's Law.

GamerGate

GamerGators

Ah ok, I didn't really follow what went down with all that, except a few articles here and there.

OT: posting shit like that online that's supposed to be private, as well as extorting people, he's getting what he deserves.

 

[Moff]

If you believe Casting Couch is real, I got news for you, son.

nah I thought all kinds of porn is staged, revenge porn included

 

[Flying Toaster]

What kind of a twisted mind can even conceive of doing this

There are a lot of bitter exes out there.

But back to the OP... This is freaking awesome news. That guy is scum.

 

[Anton Sugar]

nah I thought all kinds of porn is staged, revenge porn included

The "revenge porn" genre that you're referring to is different than actual revenge porn described in the OP, though.

 

[| Praxis |]

He has earned every year of the twenty (if that's what he gets).

I still think it's crazy how he could possibly be sentenced to four times the amount of time you would get for killing someone by dangerous driving, but there you go.

 

[GameGuru59]

What kind of a twisted mind can even conceive of doing this

You very much underestimate the anger many men feel after a breakup.

I hope this law doesn't spread. I want the internet to continue to be an unregulated wild west land where anything goes. There are good and bad consequences for allowing this anarchial atmosphere, but as long as you know how to control your data, I don't feel as though you have anything to worry about.

 

[timetokill]

Huh. I don't visit these "specialty" sites but I figured "revenge" porn was just a theme for professional or "amateur" stuff.

 

[Juke Joint Jezebel]

Ex-girlfriend sites are pretty scummy, was a victim of it myself once after a particularly rough break-up, but also trying to blackmail and trying to scam the invdivuals as well as posting their pics takes it to a whole other level.

Well deserved sentence.

 

[GameGuru59]

Huh. I don't visit these "specialty" sites but I figured "revenge" porn was just a theme for professional or "amateur" stuff.

Most of it is, but if you dig deep enough on the internet, you can find most anything. Rule 34 applies to all.

 

[FyreWulff]

What kind of a twisted mind can even conceive of doing this

People that think they own other people and their bodies.

I've had it done to me, NOT PLEASANT

 

[speculawyer]

20 years? Wow. Hopefully that stops other idiots from the doing the same thing. What a fucking disrespectful thing to do. It is sad that we actually need laws to stop such things.

 

[wildfire]

Good. Fuck that tosser.

If you believe Casting Couch is real, I got news for you, son.

Casting couches are real but not in the way how porn portrays it.

If you don't think some executives haven't pressured actors and actresses for sex well I got news for you.

 

[GameGuru59]

Actually, how is this Constitutional (though, in this specific case it might be extortion)? If I write a scandalous letter to another person, and this other person shares it with the public, is that illegal? Is this stuff just illegal because of the volume of the people it is being shared with?

 

[FyreWulff]

Actually, how is this Constitutional (though, in this specific case it might be extortion)? If I write a scandalous letter to another person, and this other person shares it with the public, is that illegal? Is this stuff just illegal because of the volume of the people it is being shared with?

If we're going to play the unfeeling law way, any pictures one takes of themselves is copyrighted automatically. Nobody else has the right to distribute them.

And yes, you can stop a letter from being re-distributed via copyright.

 

[wildfire]

Actually, how is this Constitutional (though, in this specific case it might be extortion)? If I write a scandalous letter to another person, and this other person shares it with the public, is that illegal? Is this stuff just illegal because of the volume of the people it is being shared with?

Let's be real. We have laws in place to protect the integrity of individuals hence for example libel and slander laws.

We as a society consider sharing one's sexuality as a very personal matter because it can ruin our integrity when shared with the wrong people.

 

[GameGuru59]

If we're going to play the unfeeling law way, any pictures one takes of themselves is copyrighted automatically. Nobody else has the right to distribute them.

And yes, you can stop a letter from being re-distributed via copyright.

Presumably, this law also applies to pictures the former lover took too, so are those not his copyright? Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but criminal copyright only applies to willfully copying another's work for "corporate or private financial gain." Otherwise its the civil type of copyright.

Let's be real. We have laws in place to protect the integrity of individuals hence for example libel and slander laws.

We as a society consider sharing one's sexuality as a very personal matter because it can ruin our integrity when shared with the wrong people.

Slander and libel apply when you make shit up, though.

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

Good. He deserves worse though. What a piece of garbage.

 

[Goodstyle]

CDI Zelda: Good.

 

[UrbanRats]

Lol @ people thinking bangbus and all that shit is real, are you serious? I'm sure it's just a coincidence they found Sasha Grey on the side of the road.
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Anyway, this dude was a class A piece of shit.
I don't think he'll do 20 years though, isn't that what they give for like, murder?

 

[Toxi]

Actually, how is this Constitutional (though, in this specific case it might be extortion)? If I write a scandalous letter to another person, and this other person shares it with the public, is that illegal? Is this stuff just illegal because of the volume of the people it is being shared with?

The Constitution of the US was written over 200 years ago, before photography or the Internet even existed. It's kinda ridiculous evaluating whether this is constitutional.

I sometimes feel like the entire idea of "constitutional" is a sham. The US government doesn't seem to give a crap except when the constitution serves its interests. We have an unelected government entity dedicated to selectively choosing what is and isn't constitutional. And so we end up with protestors having the right to scream in the face of women entering abortion clinics, but protestors not having the right to picket to close too the people who actually make our laws.

So forgive me if I don't really see a problem about this law being constitutional or not.

 

[FyreWulff]

Presumably, this law also applies to pictures the former lover took too, so are those not his copyright? Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but criminal copyright only applies to willfully copying another's work for "corporate or private financial gain." Otherwise its the civil type of copyright.

Slander and libel apply when you make shit up, though.

You don't need to make money to be infringing on copyright. Also, people own their likeness. So you can't sell pictures of people without their permission. You have to get releases.


The point still stands though: you don't own people, you don't deserve "revenge" against them for breaking up. Delete pics and move on.

 

[ReAxion]

I saw another article on it. Two things:

The operator of a revenge porn website called YouGotPosted.com faces up to 20 years in prison after his conviction on Monday on 21 counts of identity theft and six counts of extortion.

Judge David Gill of San Diego superior court in California ordered defendant Kevin Bollaert jailed on $500,000 bond pending sentencing, scheduled for April 3, the San Diego Union-Tribune reports.

Users of UGotPosted.com posted more than 10,000 racy or nude photos of onetime lovers, mostly women, in retaliation for breakups. The posts included the victims’ names and cities, and often linked to their social media sites. Another website operated by Bollaert, ChangeMyReputation.com, demanded money to take down the photos, according to the Union-Tribune and the Washington Post.

Defense lawyers had argued Bollaert was not responsible for the content posted on the website. According to a prior article by Ars Technica, revenge porn websites claim they are protected by Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, which shields website operators from liability.

Prosecutors, however, claimed Bollaert violated state laws on identity theft, which prevent personal information such as names and addresses from being used “for any unlawful purpose, including with the intent to annoy or harass.”

Deputy Attorney General Tawnya Boulan Austin had asked Gill to jail Bollaert pending sentencing. She argued that Bollaert “has no moral compass” and pointed to his Internet handle, which includes the word “vindictive.”

Deputy Public Defender Emily Rose-Weber countered that Bollaert, now a fast food worker who lives with his parents, is “on a trajectory that is positive.”
http://www.abajournal.com/news/arti...s_convicted_prosecutor_notes_vindictive_is_i/

Heh.

 

[Akuun]

Glad to see the fucker thrown in jail.

 

[Figboy79]

I'm glad this asshole is getting what's coming to him. Horrible thing to do to someone.