entremet
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I don't get it either. But I don't think this is a place for this type of discussion without offending others it seems. At least based on other threads that talked abou this topic.
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ManGAF:The Art of Manliness
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I don't get it either. But I don't think this is a place for this type of discussion without offending others it seems. At least based on other threads that talked abou this topic.
Half and half
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I'm pounding my chest in honor of this thread. I've been inspired to do some push-ups in a bit.
SCULLIBUNDO
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I will contribute the most manly thing ever depicted on film.
victreeb3l
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that blog is pretty good, but OP sounds like an advertisement for that site, what with the matching avatar and all
abstract alien
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In a bit? You do them NOW, you manly bastard!
CornBurrito
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I guess I could read the blog and be worried constantly about how others perceive me, but that seems like a waste of time.
SuperAngelo64
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Yeah....
...OT GAF isn't really my first stop when digging around for examples of manliness.
...OT GAF isn't really my first stop when digging around for examples of manliness.
Bam Bam Baklava
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This is the true art of manliness. Not conforming to some preset notion and not caring what others think of you.
Half and half
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Yes, Sir! Sergeant Sir!
Alligatorjandro
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I need to step my man game up.
SteveWinwood
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I'm a man.
Dont be such an obsessed party pooper all the time. There's some good info on said blog and some articles about badass men in the past. My only concern is that its very oriented on white conceptualizations of what a man is, but what do you expect?
ah yes, i remember the glory days of when real men were war criminals
Admiral Bone to Pick
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The blog itself is fairly good, but insecure internet manliness culture is pretty much the worst thing ever.
Yeah it would be cool if they expanded on other races and cultures, but I guess that wouldn't be too feasible.
Its quite feasible, I just reckon their staff doesnt have much diversity for whatever reason.
The blog is basically just a melange of men's fitness, style, and retro shit. its a good concept.
Yeah, that is what I meant.
TheKaeptain
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The other day some meathead at my job said a man shouldn't drive a Yaris. So I responded "that a man wouldn't give a shit what another person drove and that this man (me) would beat the shit out of him."
CornBurrito
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When I first click the link I see an article on how to fold the American flag. Overt displays of patriotism being conflated with manliness is something I find funny.
Though I give props to the website for having an article about moving in with the parents. It at least accounts for the fact that the economic climate of today is not what it once was.
Mostly I just agree with this:
to be fair you threatening to beat him up based on him mocking your car choice is just as insecure.
dont come after me now !
Its tongue and cheek. Although having the ability to fold any sheet into one of those triangles is super useful for saving space.
TheKaeptain
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You don't know many Mexicans do you? Believe me if I didn't respond like that it wouldn't have ended their.
oh, the macho pissing contest pendejos? I know a few of these toughguys from chillin in LA. I cant say i wouldnt have done the same
James Woods
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At what point do we start rating each others aesthetics and unironically posting cock pics?
Being a man always seems so arbitrary, who makes these criteria again? These random lists are more embarrassing to read than anything, they're like those pictures that compare soldiers from decades ago to teenagers without a care now. Like we're supposed to be covered in soot and blood, rocking an AK on the bus ride to school.
TheKaeptain
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That's all I work with. I try not to socialize with them so this dude went out of his way to say something.
I hate this whole what is manly and what isn't though.
$300 jeans = manly
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There's nothing less manly than a man that is always trying to prove how manly he is. It's so pathetic.
From what I have read so far on this site, it is less about becoming manly and more about becoming a better human being, who happens to be a male.
A lot of this "advice" is universal and will make you a better person overall.
triplestation
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Manliness occurs in nature but I don't think it's allowed in liberal societies. Used to be, but not anymore. But who gives a fuck what a bunch of young kids think.
FelixOrion
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That'd mean you'd have to be super racist and sexist though
FelixOrion
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Not to mention homophobic and xenophobic.
read the site, dont perfunctorily browse.
it is literally a self improvement site. random eccentric shit thrown in with a retro MANLY MAN theme
kinda corny, but the content is at least interesting
ITT: People don't actually read the blog posts.
Fusion Pizza
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This site has some good stuff, the design is fun too.
CornBurrito
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Some dude on my facebook wall posted a "Men Then, Men Now" comparing some war movie to Twilight. -_-
It isn't that it isn't allowed. But even looking at this blog, all of the qualities it describes would be beneficial traits for either gender. Unless you think the idea of a self-sufficient woman is humorous.
See... I've never understood those.
Why not compare a war movie from then with one from now. Gah, those are so stupid.
Amibguous Cad
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I'm disappointed to see the pushback from this sort of thread. I'm a crossdressing, feminist gay guy with a pony avatar, and I like blogs like this one. They're not for me, but I think it's a real shame that social conventions of masculinity have strayed from being dependable and useful to being as boorish and misogynistic as possible. Figuring out what to aspire to as a straight guy can be a little tough in today's world; I'm glad of the effort some are putting in to swim against the current.
On that note, I really love The Good Men Project (nee No Seriously What About Teh Menz!?)
http://goodmenproject.com/
On that note, I really love The Good Men Project (nee No Seriously What About Teh Menz!?)
http://goodmenproject.com/
I have a fundamental problem with assigning gender attributes to these sorts of self-help guides. The blog in itself is pretty harmless, and even has some good advice - but it's obvious that the advice should be good for man or woman. Further, I balk at the idea that any characteristics in general are associated with gender - positive or negative.
Then you have the majority of the other 'man-advice' blogs and whathave you, like the post earlier that has the picture decrying youth of today comparing them to soldiers of yester-wheneverthefuck. Those ridiculously vague and silly lists that say things like "A REAL man doesn't let another man show him up" or "a REAL man knows how to tapdance" or some shit. It just gets arbitrary, and eventually it becomes painfully obvious that the person writing probably knows less about what he/she is talking about than the person the advice is aimed at.
Don't pursue personal growth in order to reach some arbitrary level of manliness set for you by who-knows-whom. If there is something you want to improve about yourself, go for it.
Then you have the majority of the other 'man-advice' blogs and whathave you, like the post earlier that has the picture decrying youth of today comparing them to soldiers of yester-wheneverthefuck. Those ridiculously vague and silly lists that say things like "A REAL man doesn't let another man show him up" or "a REAL man knows how to tapdance" or some shit. It just gets arbitrary, and eventually it becomes painfully obvious that the person writing probably knows less about what he/she is talking about than the person the advice is aimed at.
Don't pursue personal growth in order to reach some arbitrary level of manliness set for you by who-knows-whom. If there is something you want to improve about yourself, go for it.
entremet
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Some people don't really see it as threatening to the other gender at all. There is definitely a strong tradition of grooming boys into men throughout human history. It's not really that serious.
I personally did not have a father, so I had to learn many of these on my own--tieing a tie, women, shaving, etc. I don't think the blog's intention is to say that all men need to follow this. Or that knowing or following these things makes you a REAL man.
edit: nevermind
It's not about it being a threat to the other gender (women?) or anything, this dialogue "men do this, men do that" - is manipulative and meaningless. Who decides when a boy turns into a man? Isn't the criteria different for every person? Why bother trying to meet anyone else's definition of a man, other than your own? At that point, why even create this archetype of a man in the first place? It's just a sinkhole I'd rather not see other people fall into.
Not to get all sappy, but I didn't have a dad around either for most of my childhood, and I turned out great. There is nothing he could have taught me that I couldn't have learned from my mother or from my own person experiences, the only special thing about him was that he was my father, not that he was a man.
I don't think there is anything wrong with the blog in the first link, and it has some very solid advice - I just think it's dangerous to fall into the 'what is a man' argument, which happens sooooo damn often when these sorts of discussions occur. Why not forget that entirely made-up narrative and just focus on being a healthy, happy, well rounded person - your gender being something entirely personal.
On a scale from 1 to 10, how serious is this thread, and how serious should the responses be?
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