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Good for him. Yuck tho..they're straight dookie. Who harasses a kid? Why? Go after George! lol..
The prequels were meant to show an age of innocence before the empire took over. As horrible as Jar Jar was, his goofiness was absolutely essential to the series.
Good for him. Yuck tho..they're straight dookie. Who harasses a kid? Why? Go after George! lol..
I retroactively appreciate Phantom Menace after watching Force Awakens.
At least the Phantom Menace actually tried doing something somewhat different instead of reshashing every single plotpoint from the original starwars for some cheap nostalgia bait.
TFA was a good movie, but damn, did it feel super safe in the plot department.
FtfyThe prequels were meant to show an age of innocence before the empire took over. As horrible as Jar Jar was, his goofiness was absolutely essential to sell toy's
All the people in this thread surprised at the amount of hate those actors(especially Lloyd) received need to realize that this was the internet from 2001-2006. People were much harsher in opinion back then, probably even on Neogaf as well.
Odd sentiment.
Those carefree innocent days of child slavery and trade wars.
Well.. as long as you're not claiming he raped your childhood, lol.
All the people in this thread surprised at the amount of hate those actors(especially Lloyd) received need to realize that this was the internet from 2001-2006. People were much harsher in opinion back then, probably even on Neogaf as well.
That's silly talk. I'd love the fucking original cut of the damn original trilogy! Besides that, whatever..
It's odd but true. I'm glad that people and fandom has lightened up to what it is now because what it used to be was much worse.
All the people in this thread surprised at the amount of hate those actors(especially Lloyd) received need to realize that this was the internet from 2001-2006. People were much harsher in opinion back then, probably even on Neogaf as well.
I don't think there's much of an argument there. People become more critical by the passing day, given the ease of use/availability of technology.
I'd say there's far more criticism in 2017, in general, and I seriously doubt it's gotten any less harsh.
I have absolutely no idea what kind of military grade hallucinogen you have to be on to consider that fan discourse or even basic interaction on the internet has "lightened up" over the years. It's gotten much worse.
I retroactively appreciate Phantom Menace after watching Force Awakens.
At least the Phantom Menace actually tried doing something somewhat different instead of reshashing every single plotpoint from the original starwars for some cheap nostalgia bait.
TFA was a good movie, but damn, did it feel super safe in the plot department.
You can make a compelling argument that TFA has more "callbacks", but not that TPM doesn't have nearly the exact same story beats of ANH. Which is what I had originally highlighted in your post. You can apply the exact same surface criticisms to both TFA and TPM in that regard.
But people are unwilling to recognize this fact because George Lucas was in charge of virtually all major creative decisions in regard to the PT. And naturally.. since he created SW, he couldn't have copied any of his previous films/done something unoriginal.. right?
See my brain just can't understand that. What an awesome friend he would have been!
If this were true Neogaf and other online communities would all be equivalent to 4chan's /b/. Even though it's not a major shift, there has been improvement.
There might be more criticism now but there is less bullying around said criticism. There is less 'spit in your face and call you excrement' type of messaging when it comes to criticism. It definitely has gotten less harsh in certain ways more than others.
I'm kinda thinking things turn out similarly for Lloyd even if the movie had been great.
I've worked in a education for about 12 years now and let me tell you.. this couldn't be further from the truth.
Bullying is as bad as it has ever been, in person or not. Kids get beat up and physically assaulted everyday.
The originality of the prequels is overstated and leads to some of its biggest flaws. TFA was executed much better than the prequels and it makes for a much better movie than any of the prequels. Jerking off over the originality of the prequels while most of the movie takes place on Tatooine and they have kid Darth Vader literally building C3PO while also being a jesus virgin birth. Give me a break.
Not that I hate the prequels. I just think people's arguments against TFA are very poor and come more from projecting what they think they should feel and what people told them they should feel onto the movie rather than what's actually on the screen.
That's a very sensible decision.Meanwhile, Hamill also revealed that he turned down the chance to take part in the anti-George Lucas documentary The People vs George Lucas.
All the people in this thread surprised at the amount of hate those actors(especially Lloyd) received need to realize that this was the internet from 2001-2006. People were much harsher in opinion back then, probably even on Neogaf as well.
Can you honestly tell me that TPM feels like ANH remake? because thats how TFA feels.
I dont agree with that notion, could have story beats but doesnt feel structurally almost step by step the same as ANH imo.
The pandering, the damn pandering and movie esctructure insults me honestly, and it makes me mad because I like all the characters of the movie, I love them just not the movie they are in lol.
While true, it's certainly not a justification
Usenet was a lot more eloquent overall than the social media vibe of today, but it was pretty cargo cult-y. Imagine if everybody on 4chan could write a complete sentence and had a degree in computer science, and there you go.
The way Lloyd was treated was disgraceful
People treating Jake Lloyd poorly doesn't make the movies good.
I didn't particularly enjoy the prequels but he's right about a lot of things. The way they treated Jake Lloyd was really awful
sucks, especially given the path that Jake ended up going down..
Star Wars actor Jake Lloyd moved to psychiatric facility after spending nearly 10 months in jail.
WTF did people say/do to him? I shat on the prequels but never took issue with the kid. He did an acting job as best he could.
But the way Hayden Christensen is treated is fair game, right ?
Almost 450 hours with Fallout: New Vegas? The man has taste.If yall are interested, here's his steam profile: http://steamcommunity.com/id/jakelloyd/
Guy's a big RPG gamer. Props to him, seems cool!
If yall are interested, here's his steam profile: http://steamcommunity.com/id/jakelloyd/
Guy's a big RPG gamer. Props to him, seems cool!
Jake isn't a great kid actor, but hat never bothered me. I liked episode I and I still trying Jingle All the Way as one of the great kids Christmas flicks. I find it pretty hilarious.