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Marvel's Spider-man 2 |OT| - The 19" inches of Venom you're Kraven for
DenchDeckard
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Its more, that remedy has delivered how games used to be. High end pc versions always smoked consoles. We have seen pc versions offer better frames and resolution but that's normally about it. Now we have a game that is literally a generation or more ahead of consoles. It's not that spider man looks bad at all, it's just pc is leagues ahead in that game.
I'm saying Alan wake on pc looks like a ps6 game. Spider man 2 looks like a ps5 game but has some remnants of its ps4 engine roots. So sometimes it looks like a souped up ps4 game.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
No s*, again look at the size and prices of what you are comparing here. It is good for Alan Wake for making more than decent use of the expensive HW it runs on.
I think you are exaggerating…
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Yeah, it's great that pc gets software that takes advantage of its hardware advantage...that you pay for.
Spider man 2 looks great.
LaughingStock
Member
Just finished it and I rate it overratedasfuck/10.
MasterCornholio
Member
How do you know that won't be the case with Spider-Man 2 on PC?
This is why these games are held in such a high regard. They live and die by the feeling of power fantasy, and here it's unlike any other mainstream game. You can jump from the highest building, dive all the way to the ground and then quickly open wings or start swinging and cross from Manhattan to Queens in a matter of seconds.
And it all controls exceptionally well. Just as I immediately remembered all the controls as soon as I booted up the sequel, I'll immediately remember all of them again in 5 years when the third one comes out. It's such a tight experience, facilitated just enough that you're seemingly always in full control, yet you won't easily stumble or crash into buildings, no matter how fast you're going. It's engineered to perfection. This is something we take for granted, but they translated the action on screen perfectly to the controller, while utilising Dualsense features to the max.
This was also true for the first game, the second one just added a few things, and made it even more fun to play. The game starts, gives you all the tools from the get go, and let's you go nuts. After the first mission I probably spent 5 hours just swinging around and beating random thugs.
The other important part is the main campaign. I don't remember the 2018 one in great detail, but it can't have been this exhilarating. Plenty of set pieces, chaos everywhere around you, things crashing and falling, and you're still in full control. The last 5 or so hours are just a thrill ride after a thrill ride. The bosses are also much better. The added parry is surprisingly difficult to pull off amidst all the action, which made some of these boss fights that much more fun. Hats off to them thinking their combat system is good enough to carry 3-4 health bars of pretty much identical boss phases, but in my case it absolutely worked. At the end of some fights I was thirsting for more phases. Venom could've had 8 bars and I'd have loved it.
I didn't do a lot of side quests (didn't do any chain of them to completion), but the ones I did were ok, and will probably finish all the flame ones, nests, mech birds and any other interesting ones. There's also some that turn me off on the premise itself, e.g. the May foundation ones and the Mysterio ones, which I probably won't do.
The writing, cutscenes, characters and conversations are all very bland. Really couldn't feel any of the dramatic moments, just kind of stared through them until the next mission. Also really disliked MJ missions. Don't like stealth in games, especially the type used here. She felt really out of place during the last fight(s), and the only thing standing between her and an instant death was a massive plot armor. It's also jarring what they'd done with her face. Not only is she ugly as a sin, but that combined with not that great facial animations, and it was just painful to watch her in conversations, especially the emotional ones with Pete. Plus the two of them have no chemistry whatsoever. It would've worked much better if she was his sister and not a love interest.
Great game.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
I hope so.
Man, I didn't expect that Black Cat mission to be that shoehorned in. That was a major shame. Cool little mission but just felt so rushed...and that dialogue was cringe. I get it, you like Scissoring in France....Bye Felicia!
Love, the main missions outside of that though.
Luipadre
Member
Finished it today, it was fun, but a really safe sequel like god of war. Felt similarly after i finished it, overall i liked the first game more. Played and finished alan wake 2 while i was playing this and yeah, that game completely stole the show for me.
Last boss fight was eh and a bit clunky too not to mention the
boss fight which was also bad and clunky
I hope wolverine will be a 18+ game both in terms of gameplay, writing and story not sure if i can stomach more marvel dialogue
Last boss fight was eh and a bit clunky too not to mention the
Scream
I hope wolverine will be a 18+ game both in terms of gameplay, writing and story not sure if i can stomach more marvel dialogue
Lucifers Beard
Member
I'm not too far into it and whilst it's alright, I don't give a shit about the sneaking around the school or stealth stuff and I know there's more of that crap to come.
I'm kind of annoyed I bought this over Robocop which definitely looks like it has been a massive hit.
MAX PAYMENT
Member
It can certainly look good at times. But I'd put it down as the most graphically uneven game I've ever played.
VenomousCoffee
Member
Since I've finished it, all I can think about is their "representation is everything" ethos and the fact that there are no (identifiably) Jewish characters in this game set in New York City. You know, the city with the largest Jewish population in the world outside of Israel.
Chuck Berry
Gold Member
I thought that was Boca Raton, FL
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Its NYC. More than tel aviv.
GymWolf
Member
And the boss fight itself was still not as annoying as what was being said by the 2 characters
5 phases of that verbal diarrhea.
Magic Carpet
Member
I've not yet bought Spiderman 2 and probly wont get to it till 2024. But your comment makes me just want to wait for the inevitable PS6 remake of the game packaged with Spiderman 1 and all the extras for 20 bucks.
Edit- Or just wait for the PC release.
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The Stig
Member
finished the game last night. a couple trophies to grab but ive cleaned up the streets. great game.
MJ sections weren't as awful but I'd rather do without them completely.
the rainbows, murals, deaf person and OMG 2 gay couples! didn't bother me at all. AFAIK there are actual gay people in NY.
MJ sections weren't as awful but I'd rather do without them completely.
the rainbows, murals, deaf person and OMG 2 gay couples! didn't bother me at all. AFAIK there are actual gay people in NY.
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Chuck Berry
Gold Member
And zero cops. Yup makes sense totally.
iorek21
Member
I hate bloated games as much as everyone, but Spider man 2 could’ve gotten way more content than this, the offer is just not on par with the first one.
SM1 had bandit bases, Sable bases, Kingpin bases, Demon bases
It had more science quests, more than 8 challenges, way more sidequests.
SM2 feels empty in comparison.
SM1 had bandit bases, Sable bases, Kingpin bases, Demon bases
It had more science quests, more than 8 challenges, way more sidequests.
SM2 feels empty in comparison.
Mossybrew
Member
So since I finished AW2 and have a couple vacation days I finally grabbed this last night, played a couple hours then literally all day today and this game is .... fantastic? Completely exceeding my expectations. Feels like a proper current gen title, the city is so dense and full of detail and the lighting is great. Activities are fun and varied and the set piece missions have been cool, the more chill character moments have been cool, combat is fun and challenging. This game is really the complete package in what I want from an AAA open world action superhero game.
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Fake
Member
ouch
fran.fernandez
Member
Finished.
Very good! Miss it already
Very good! Miss it already
Laieon
Member
Just beat it, what a game. Loved every second of it.
Same here to be honest. Hogwarts and Spider-Man 2 can hug it out for GOTY, I adored them both.
Same here to be honest. Hogwarts and Spider-Man 2 can hug it out for GOTY, I adored them both.
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GigaBowser
The bear of bad news
the garphics have blown my mind
VenomousCoffee
Member
Sitting here right now, still thinking about this, I've had the thought that there is one character who fits some tropes about Jewish people: the evil, greedy guy who's trying to steal the instruments from the Harlem museum because his dad was their manager.
Hmm...... seems like that fits a few stereotypes, but I know that no one on the left would trade in anti-Semitism, so we're all good here!
saintjules
Member
R6Rider
Gold Member
But there are cops in the game? You see them on the streets quite frequently, in cutscenes to several side quests, etc.
There are more cops seen in the game than firefighters. Is it because there's no cutscene of patrolman Bob trying to handcuff Venom?
The weird thing is no national guard or other governmental agencies showing up.
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FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Chuck Berry
Gold Member
Ok then go grab me a handful of screenshots of cops in sidequest cutscenes and on the streets.
R6Rider
Gold Member
I'm not grabbing shit for you. You stated there were zero cops.
Chuck Berry
Gold Member
And there we go
Dont worry babe Ill take some for you and post them up after work. Cant do sidequest shots since the game is over (and they dont show up in sidequest cutscenes anyway), but Ill for sure take some street shots. We can take turns counting the amount of bipocs and EMT workers.
Ulysses 31
Member
Bro, have you need seen MJ react faster than Peter and tank a Venom tendril attack meant to incapacitate him?
She's ready for her own game.
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Chuck Berry
Gold Member
Chuck Berry
Gold Member
R6Rider
Gold Member
OkR6Rider here's another. Ready for Round 2???
All those vehicles and not a single boy in blue to be seen. Where could they be? Where could they beeeeeee?
Lemme know if you want me to take it to street level. I gotchu fam.
Are you truly this delusional?
- You made a claim of ZERO cops in the game.
- I stated several areas of the game where they are.
- You proceed to take screenshots of random street views from above.
???
I also noticed you're the type that will just leave three or four of the same laughing emoji in each post. Really weird.
I'm glad the game has clearly triggered you on several occasions as you are really trying your hardest with this. Oh, BTW, here's one instance of the police in a main mission.
The police also arrive after the final Flames mission just off the top of my head.
It's a fact that there are police in the game. Are they toned down from the first game? Obviously. But go ahead and keep posting random pictures. Just like in real life if I look outside my window right now and see no police, GASP, they don't exist!
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Chuck Berry
Gold Member
You didnt state "several" areas come on dude. And yeah I showed some RANDOM screenshots proving they are nowhere to be seen on the streets. Dont worry Ill take some street view shots when Im off work to again, prove im right.
Also way to point out the ONE scene they show up in the game and Peters response is "GREAT! NOW THE POLICE ARE INVOLVED!" and then blows them off saying "They always get in the way!" Peter refuses the cops assistance and basically tells them to fuck off? Thats Spidey alright. Total anti-cop. All cops are bastards right bro? You know it! (Also I pointed out this scene earlier in the thread because it was the ONE actual noticeable instance of them in game)
Also no ones triggered here. I just love being right
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Chuck Berry
Gold Member
You should elaborate on the several areas besides a brief cameo appearance in the Lizard fight and the"off the top of your head" (which doesnt mean shit) at the end of the Flame quest.
Pics too if you can. I wanna see the Po Po.
Oh and hey, as an added bonus since you've been so cool through this little debate Ill post some SM1 shots too so you can clearly see their presence in contrast to the sequel.
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Chuck Berry
Gold Member
R6Rider
Here’s the beginning of SM1
In the entirety of the sequel, there is not a single instance, moment, scene or sidequest where you’re aiding police let alone having this many of them on the screen.
Fuck dude, look at the cop on the left helping a civilian. What a piece of shit.
Take the L like a man (and yes Im assuming your gender)
Damn three posts in a row. Apologies.
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Chuck Berry
Gold Member
I know I know but its a slow day at work lol
cormack12
Gold Member
The police thing was clearly a response to all the bullshit about the first game:
boundingintocomics.com
Just had the fight with Kraven and the bit after Kraven. The spongey enemies and every boss with the tedious multi phases was a really bad call in this game. I just played from Li up to post Kraven (spoiler but you know), and it just felt like a cliche, waiting for the new 'phase' each time. Also some of the boss arena's are just a jankfest.
Because everything else is so good it brings it down a lot for me. I don’t mind the MJ sections up till now really. It's a bit of a change of a pace. I haven't really done much side content and dunno if I've done something to the map but only hunter base icons are shown.
'Marvel's Spider-Man 2' Dev Responds To Accusations That First Game Was Pro-Police Propaganda: "Obviously That Wasn't Our Intent"
'Marvel's Spider-Man 2' creative director Bryan Intihar has offered a response to accusations that the first game was 'copaganda'.
boundingintocomics.com
Just had the fight with Kraven and the bit after Kraven. The spongey enemies and every boss with the tedious multi phases was a really bad call in this game. I just played from Li up to post Kraven (spoiler but you know), and it just felt like a cliche, waiting for the new 'phase' each time. Also some of the boss arena's are just a jankfest.
Because everything else is so good it brings it down a lot for me. I don’t mind the MJ sections up till now really. It's a bit of a change of a pace. I haven't really done much side content and dunno if I've done something to the map but only hunter base icons are shown.