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Mass Effect |OT| Alien love in an elevator
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chespace said:
that makes me so happy, i know Bioware can tell a good story and craft a beautiful world - was curious how the 3rd person gameplay would turn out. Sounds fantastic
Seriously, are people just so insecure about other games they feel the need to shit on this one? It's going to be so funny when the reviews/impressions come in. Of course i am sure like good little trolls they will just disappear into the void
Mr. Spinnington
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MWS Natural
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chespace said:
This is the first time in my life I have wanted to be another person.....
Mr. Spinnington
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I wanted to create the Uncharted thread in the first place. This is my way of showing viral support of that game while hyping this one : (Loudninja said:HEY! you stole our quote AFW is for Uncharted ONLY!
This is on "My Q" from Gamefly, and not a purchase... I want to play it because the story will probably be one of the best we get all year, and all the customizations to it will be cool I think as well... But from the video's, the combat is a massive turn-off to me... Looks too cookie-cutter too me, not hectic at all, and pretty much no better than the lesser fps games out there... This is the first game I may rush through the combat because I'm looking forward to the story parts more...
Opus Angelorum
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The combination of recent footage and the comments from Che make me warm and fuzzy inside.
pooteeweet
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J-Rzez said:
Jesus Christ . . . it's a RPG. It's not a FPS. That's like not getting Halo 3 because you don't like the RPG elements. What RPG's have truly terrific combat systems when compared to a TPS or FPS?
pooteeweet said:
A lot of people are confused about the game, writing it off as a bad shooter. What they don't seem to realize is that it's a super RPG that just uses real time 3rd person shooter combat in an attempt to not bore the FPS loving crowd of the Xbox 360. The ability to pause and issue commands to teammates is to make the game more accessible to the RPG-only types that can't handle fast paced shooter action.
pooteeweet
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Zzoram said:
It's an action RPG. Action RPGs aren't as combat-oriented as a shooter, but for my money have much more engrossing combat than other RPGs---turn-based or hacknslash. BTW I'm agreeing with you, this is more a vent against people deriding the game for not offering what it was never supposed to offer.
Mr. Spinnington
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Added to the OP per popular request:
"Woohoo!" all you want.
"Woohoo!" all you want.
AndersTheSwede
Member
Chinner said:
IIRC the commercials will begin Nov 7.
So I went to the bookstore and read Game Informer's Mass Effect review... man, it's the strangest review. They basically gush about the game for 1.5 columns. I can't recall exactly but they said something like this:
"This is the greatest story ever told in videogames"
"Epic beyond words"
"KOTOR/Jade were test runs compared to Mass Effect"
"One of the most impressive video games ever"
Ok, so we're doing alright. Then, they talk about the AI & combat for half a column:
"The AI is terrible"
"You'll often find your teamates shooting at a wall 2 feet away"
"The combat is clunky"
"The battles are an incoherent mess - they're over before you realized what happened"
"The combat system is ambitious but never delivers"
"You'll find your shield being depleted and you can't figure out where the enemies are"
Then they wrap it up by just absolutely gushing over the game. They definitely say it's a serious GOTY contender and "one of the most impressive games ever."
So... the combat appears to suck, but it got
out of 10. Che - what are your thoughts on the combat?
"This is the greatest story ever told in videogames"
"Epic beyond words"
"KOTOR/Jade were test runs compared to Mass Effect"
"One of the most impressive video games ever"
Ok, so we're doing alright. Then, they talk about the AI & combat for half a column:
"The AI is terrible"
"You'll often find your teamates shooting at a wall 2 feet away"
"The combat is clunky"
"The battles are an incoherent mess - they're over before you realized what happened"
"The combat system is ambitious but never delivers"
"You'll find your shield being depleted and you can't figure out where the enemies are"
Then they wrap it up by just absolutely gushing over the game. They definitely say it's a serious GOTY contender and "one of the most impressive games ever."
So... the combat appears to suck, but it got
9.75
Opus Angelorum
Member
Great score from GI!
MWS Natural
Member
RSTEIN said:
If you like Graw's combat then you'll like Mass Effect's I gather..
golem said:
IMO it depends largely on whether you fancy ME or Halo more. I'm expecting ME more so I gave it more leeway.
RSTEIN said:
I honestly couldn't get further than this sentence:
Mass Effect is a science fiction tale so galvanizing it makes you question the very existence of humanity, how moral choices can affect a person, and whether or not there's a holy entity watching over us.
Is this supposed to be some kind of a parody or something? What The Fuck?
Zombie James
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Does anyone have an update on the Canadian status of the collector's edition? Where can I pre-order it?
DreamMachine
Member
http://masseffect.bioware.com/forums/viewtopic.html?topic=594212&forum=104
here you go, you can only pre-order it through ONLINE ONLY for some reason.
I am not going to bother if that's the case.
we'll see though closer to release if some get shipped to the stores...
here you go, you can only pre-order it through ONLINE ONLY for some reason.
I am not going to bother if that's the case.
we'll see though closer to release if some get shipped to the stores...
Lostconfused
Member
_leech_ said:
Actually there was news that collectors edition wont be sold in canada and the last time i checked gamestop/eb or amazon wont ship it to canada either.
edit: oh and bestbuy.ca and futureshop dont have the CE listed on their site either.
Zombie James
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DreamMachine said:
Ok, but where online?
AdventureRacing
Member
J-Rzez said:
What's with the ellipses? Ever heard of a full stop?
This is a day 1 purchase for me. Having read some of what chespace has been saying is just making me more hyped.
I do have one question though. How much is the combat like GRAW, cause i didn't particularly enjoy that game.
I had plans to do an elaborate post about this the whole time I've been playing.
I'm about 8.5 hours into the game now and it's just gotten better and better.
Too much to talk about really, so I guess I'll just answer RStein's question.
Combat is really fun. There are occasional problems with the AI, but it's really nothing 3rd/1st person shooter fans aren't already used to in teammates found in the genre (GRAW, RS: Vegas, etc). I set my squad to "active" which lets the AI use both defensive and offensive abilities on their own (without you having to pause the action, choose targets, and say "perform a neuro blast" or whatever). They definitely get the job done and I often find them stealing my kills. Thankfully, XP and loot goes to the party and it's up to you to divvy up items.
When I said earlier that this game is a shooter first and an RPG second, I was wrong. It's really a great balance of both genres. Mechanically speaking, this is an action game through and through. You dodge bullets, spring to cover, and do all the things required of you in games like Gears of War. You point your gun at something and fire and there is a 1-to-1 cause-and-effect reaction and shit takes damage and blow up, etc.
Stats act more like modifiers. For instance, if I do a full auto burst with my assault rifle, the reticle will gradually grow wider and bigger the longer you fire, representing the kick and recoil of the assault rifle. As a result, the spread of your shots will go from tight to practically useless through the duration of your burst. As you invest in your assault rifle skill, that behavior improves so your spread is tighter even if you fire longer. Of course, if you play the game like I do and just do controlled bursts, it really isn't too much of a problem.
This basically goes for all weapons (sniper rifle, shotguns, etc.) and I think it works great. In the end, combat is an action affair and really there's no other game like Mass Effect where it combines my favorite genre with a genre I no longer play. It's such a nice RPG homecoming.
The only aspect of the combat that can be clunky at times is trying to get under cover mode against an obstacle that's shorter, as it requires you to duck. Whereas Gears of War automatically makes you duck and puts you against lower cover, you have to do so manually here so there's the added click of the left stick -- and in the heat of combat, it can be frustrating... particularly because combat is really chaotic and crazy at times.
Anyway, I know it's too early to know what's GOTY at this point since I haven't played SMG, COD4, or Uncharted, but I know for a fact that Mass Effect is already an easy contender.
I'll take some phone pics and post 'em tonight. This game is RIDICULOUSLY gorgeous and 8 hours later, I am still slackjawed.
I'm about 8.5 hours into the game now and it's just gotten better and better.
Too much to talk about really, so I guess I'll just answer RStein's question.
Combat is really fun. There are occasional problems with the AI, but it's really nothing 3rd/1st person shooter fans aren't already used to in teammates found in the genre (GRAW, RS: Vegas, etc). I set my squad to "active" which lets the AI use both defensive and offensive abilities on their own (without you having to pause the action, choose targets, and say "perform a neuro blast" or whatever). They definitely get the job done and I often find them stealing my kills. Thankfully, XP and loot goes to the party and it's up to you to divvy up items.
When I said earlier that this game is a shooter first and an RPG second, I was wrong. It's really a great balance of both genres. Mechanically speaking, this is an action game through and through. You dodge bullets, spring to cover, and do all the things required of you in games like Gears of War. You point your gun at something and fire and there is a 1-to-1 cause-and-effect reaction and shit takes damage and blow up, etc.
Stats act more like modifiers. For instance, if I do a full auto burst with my assault rifle, the reticle will gradually grow wider and bigger the longer you fire, representing the kick and recoil of the assault rifle. As a result, the spread of your shots will go from tight to practically useless through the duration of your burst. As you invest in your assault rifle skill, that behavior improves so your spread is tighter even if you fire longer. Of course, if you play the game like I do and just do controlled bursts, it really isn't too much of a problem.
This basically goes for all weapons (sniper rifle, shotguns, etc.) and I think it works great. In the end, combat is an action affair and really there's no other game like Mass Effect where it combines my favorite genre with a genre I no longer play. It's such a nice RPG homecoming.
The only aspect of the combat that can be clunky at times is trying to get under cover mode against an obstacle that's shorter, as it requires you to duck. Whereas Gears of War automatically makes you duck and puts you against lower cover, you have to do so manually here so there's the added click of the left stick -- and in the heat of combat, it can be frustrating... particularly because combat is really chaotic and crazy at times.
Anyway, I know it's too early to know what's GOTY at this point since I haven't played SMG, COD4, or Uncharted, but I know for a fact that Mass Effect is already an easy contender.
I'll take some phone pics and post 'em tonight. This game is RIDICULOUSLY gorgeous and 8 hours later, I am still slackjawed.
lowrider007
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chespace said:
ummmm, that is a bit of a bummer, hopefully that won't become too annoying, I know I can get bit flustered sometimes in the heat of battle, any how so far on the whole it's looking good, thanks for the write up, looking forward to the pics.
Mr. Spinnington
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Che keeps threads alive: confirmingchespace said:
DreamMachine
Member
Captain N said:
No, I don't think so there is a huge fan following of the game I think personally people don't want the story spoiled and second.. alot of people have doubt in one week or so the media launch will start!!
Lostconfused
Member
Captain N said:
TV commercials for most release dont start until a week away from the release date at best.
Lostconfused said:
I understand that, but I am just curious as to why this game doesn't have as much excitement as some of the other games coming out around the same time. It seemed like there was more people pumped for the game when it was first announced.
I also understand that the thread is only two days old, but there are usually more posts in popular game threads.
Lostconfused
Member
Captain N said:
Yeah, seems like it has even less hype then bioshock. But then again i cant really answer that question because if i could only have one game this year it would be Mass Erect, or possibly orange box because i found out how awesome it is after i played it. But then again i dont remember that there was alot of hype for orange box and portal was a sleeping giant.