Wow, this is a new level of stupid.
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MCV: Retail sources talk used Xbox One games, £35 for used game in UK [U2: Eurogamer]
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Wow, this is a new level of stupid.
this is about how i do all my used game selling/trading... so, eh... yeah, not something im cool with.
it will be interesting to see how this effects trade in credit and the price to buy in. less credit received and higher cost im assuming. i'd be surprised if gamestop ate too much of the cut they will lose.
i should be able to deactivate the game on my console myself if i choose to sell it where i please... just seems like a cheap tactic to make gamestop happy with the whole system; trap the consumer into playing with basically one/two retailers.
I've rented dozens of games, a grand total of 1 was scratched an unplayable. Ironically, the same number as bought new that came scratched.
bloodyroarxx
Member
Dont lend them to irresponsible people?
To me, it sounds like you won't be able to.
I dont care if you want the discs to scratch or to fuck once I've sold it to you.
There could be rental editions of games, or a game rental service on the console (similar to the PS+ game trial thing)
Per PH's description, the solution for private sales will be a user-to-user license exchange over the network. The buyer will pay full price. The seller will, I presume, only get Xbox credit and not be able to cash out their cut of the sale.
You won't be able to lend a game without lending your account. That's their solution for 'lending'. Go to your friends house, log in, and let them play while you're present.
GoofsterStud
Member
No excuse for DRM.
There will be a fee. Microsoft is going to make things lucrative for publishers and themself. This isn't a free service. Otherwise it wouldn't be necessary.
There will be a fee. Microsoft is going to make things lucrative for publishers and themself. This isn't a free service. Otherwise it wouldn't be necessary.
-Plasma Reus-
Service guarantees member status
Interesting.
Also, the majority of used games I purchase, are from Amazon. High street gameshops in the UK are not nearly strong enough to sacrifice online outlets.
Miles Quaritch
Member
Digital renting will become a thing with all the money going straight to publishers.
I am surprised they didn't go the activation key route. Seemed the safer option. MS will MS I guess.
doniewhalberg
Member
I can't see how gamestop or game are going to be ok with that haha. Start stacking those wii u pre-owned games up boys
zomgbbqftw
Banned
Indeed. This shit won't fly in Europe, the national competition boards and the EU CC will force MS to open up the system.
Devs have stated that it is a problem. I would MUCH rather have money go to devs (people who MADE the game) than some masive storechain...
I don't see how this will effect cost one way or another. You'll buy a used game the same way you always have. How you get it to work is what's changing.
BennBeckman
Banned
publishers and microsoft see a cut and exercise even more control and influence over second hand retailers
gamers cant sell games privately, rent them, borrow them to anyone and (i'd imagine) it takes much longer to trade games in to authorised retailers
i'm not really seeing the benefit to gamers here
gamers cant sell games privately, rent them, borrow them to anyone and (i'd imagine) it takes much longer to trade games in to authorised retailers
i'm not really seeing the benefit to gamers here
Yeah me too. This is basically the same info we've been getting
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
With this system, it is impossible to lend your game to someone else or sell it directly to someone else.
Miles Quaritch
Member
Ah, okay. That doesn't sound great but at the least the option is there I guess.
Canis lupus
Member
Blurays never get scratched.
Hmm maybe the EU will come down on the, in full force. It's not the first time for MS.
Boy Wander
Member
I know this is thinking far ahead, but what happens the future? Right now I can buy games for retro consoles or can build up a nice cheap PS2 collection. How is the software of the future going to be preserved once MS moves on from Xbox One? Not an issue for right now, but how are people going to be able to play games once MS's servers go offline in the future. Some will say this isn't a big deal but I've been playing games for nearly 30 years and I still sometimes get my Megadrive or N64 out of the loft for an afternoon of retro gaming fun.
Well that's not good at all.
I've never, ever, sold a game to Gamestop in my country. Their price proposals are laughable. On eBay I sold ZombiU for 45 w shipping, just to give an example.
If I needed another reason to not buy an Xbone, thank you, Microsoft.
Anti-trust mark 7
It's funny that you think developers will get anywhere close to a reasonable cut from this scheme.
kurtrussell
Banned
Absolute bullshit.
How can a movie, music and book industry survive with ubiquitous pre-owned sales, if gaming can't?
I really fucking hope XBone fails. Hard. Even worse than Vita.
How can a movie, music and book industry survive with ubiquitous pre-owned sales, if gaming can't?
I really fucking hope XBone fails. Hard. Even worse than Vita.
Miles Quaritch
Member
zomgbbqftw
Banned
I'm also inclined to believe this is true as it explains Amazon's salty article this morning:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=564733
"The Xbox One’s disappointing reveal has shot up sales of the Wii U on Amazon.com. The system was at #390 before the conference, but now has shot up to #40 due to Microsoft’s glorified TV box.
This momentum should carry Nintendo right into the summer as they have big plans for the Wii U at E3 and this fall. The console race has just begun but it’s good to see gamers are picking up a system that’s dedicated to gaming first, and multimedia second."
Because this system will effectively kill used Marketplace for Xbone games.
Sony have a very broad patent on including unique identifier chips in game discs. I'm pretty sure MS would have to licence it.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=564733
"The Xbox One’s disappointing reveal has shot up sales of the Wii U on Amazon.com. The system was at #390 before the conference, but now has shot up to #40 due to Microsoft’s glorified TV box.
This momentum should carry Nintendo right into the summer as they have big plans for the Wii U at E3 and this fall. The console race has just begun but it’s good to see gamers are picking up a system that’s dedicated to gaming first, and multimedia second."
Because this system will effectively kill used Marketplace for Xbone games.
Sony have a very broad patent on including unique identifier chips in game discs. I'm pretty sure MS would have to licence it.
It also doesnt say if ms will still want a fee, so in theory it could mean you get less for your trade ins as a fee might need to be paid by either the shop you trade it in at or the person who then buys it off the shop. Ms isnt going to be doing this for free so its a lose lose for the consumer.
maquiladora
Member
Seriously? Only having one avenue to sell a game("Take the money we offer you for it or fuck off since you have no alternative") and people not being able to swap/share/sell games between their friends = so what?
C'mon son.
Panda In Space
Member
So selected few US and UK's retailers only again. Rest of the world got screwed.
Is this real life? Honestly, there are people who are actually OKAY/FINE with this? Really? REALLY?
Destroys companies like Gamefly, and Blockbuster, and Redbox for renting games.
Destroys private selling to friends/co-workers/relatives/etc..
Can't lend/borrow game to your friend for a few days anymore.
I mean this is anti-consumerism at it's finest, and some of you are actually "okay" and "fine" with this. Just shaking my head right now in utter disbelief. It'll be because of people like you that drives this industry towards further hell.
Games are just as any other form of media. They don't have special privileges. If I want to sell a book or a DVD I can and no o e hunks even twice about it being wrong.
To be fair I don't think I'd want to lend anything to someone like that again, not unless I really understood them and the (hopefully freak) circumstances behind that. And admittedly I'd lean towards lending games that at worst I can replace for cheap later (Suikoden II? Uhhh, probably not. RE2? Whoops, I forgot to make sure to get that back before I moved but it's on PSN for $6 and I was a pussy about getting through the game so who cares.)
BrokenEchelon
Banned
So you're going to force me online every day to enforce your used game system that makes you more money, still shits on first sale doctrine, and still creates problems for rental services and lending to friends?
Yeah, nah. Fuck you MS.
Yeah, nah. Fuck you MS.
StreetsAhead
Member
So what if it's a 'problem'? Design your business better.
I'm not sure why they deserve the money on a copy of a game they already sold.
betty swollocks
Banned
WTF is this noise? When's the last time a blueray was scratched to the point it can't be used again? Oh yeah, never.
You're trying to hard. Step back.