So what? Who lends £40 discs to get scratched to fuck anyway?
Wow, this is a new level of stupid.
So what? Who lends £40 discs to get scratched to fuck anyway?
Kills eBay and Amazon marketplace and selling the game privately.
So what? Who lends £40 discs to get scratched to fuck anyway?
what, therefore is the big deal if you can still go to a major retailer and trade in your stuff?
Kills eBay and Amazon marketplace and selling the game privately.
So no private sale or borrowing.
So what? Who lends £40 discs to get scratched to fuck anyway?
I'm confused
Sooo what if I want to sell it on ebay?
So what? Who lends £40 discs to get scratched to fuck anyway?
There could be rental editions of games, or a game rental service on the console (similar to the PS+ game trial thing)No renting
Didn't MS say they would be addressing this at some point? I vaguely remember someone posting a quote not long after the news about pre-owned titled broke.
Kills eBay and Amazon marketplace and selling the game privately.
Also, does that mean each game disc now has a unique identifier chip in it somewhere, otherwise how will the retailer know which account the traded in disc comes from? Doesn't work otherwise unless GameStop have a box in the store where people trading in games can log in and mark the games as traded or something. Very cumbersome without a unique identifier chip, also that is technology that would have to be licenced from Sony, who I'm quite sure are not selling a licence for that tech.
exactly. and still no borrowing, lending, or renting.
Unconfirmed reports on ConsoleDeals.co.uk suggest that retails slice will be as little as ten per cent. Thats a significant cut from what it has become accustomed to from pre-owned sales and more in line with what they would receive from the sale of a new game hence, the value of the pre-owned market to the retailer is effectively destroyed.
These same unconfirmed reports also suggest that the activation cost for consumers buying or borrowing pre-owned software will be £35.
No private sales makes it a cartel.
Sounds awfully controlling and manipulative. And I'm not sure why Microsoft or the developers deserve the money on a used sale, but it's not as bad as it could have been. I suppose.
Sounds to me like used games will cost more.
I'm confused why people think this is ok?
Publishers Win
Retailers Win
This is something both sides of the equation can support... what, therefore is the big deal if you can still go to a major retailer and trade in your stuff?
Who cares if it is wiped from your account? You no longer have the fucking game.
Per PH's description, the solution for private sales will be a user-to-user license exchange over the network. The buyer will pay full price. The seller will, I presume, only get Xbox credit and not be able to cash out their cut of the sale.
So what? Who lends £40 discs to get scratched to fuck anyway?
No private sales makes it a cartel.
To me, it sounds like you won't be able to.
Indeed. This shit won't fly in Europe, the national competition boards and the EU CC will force MS to open up the system.
Devs have stated that it is a problem. I would MUCH rather have money go to devs (people who MADE the game) than some masive storechain...
Kills eBay and Amazon marketplace and selling the game privately.
Also, does that mean each game disc now has a unique identifier chip in it somewhere, otherwise how will the retailer know which account the traded in disc comes from? Doesn't work otherwise unless GameStop have a box in the store where people trading in games can log in and mark the games as traded or something. Very cumbersome without a unique identifier chip, also that is technology that would have to be licenced from Sony, who I'm quite sure are not selling a licence for that tech.
So what? Who lends £40 discs to get scratched to fuck anyway?
Seems fair.
Publishers Win
Retailers Win
This is something both sides of the equation can support... what, therefore is the big deal if you can still go to a major retailer and trade in your stuff?
Who cares if it is wiped from your account? You no longer have the fucking game.
Makes sense.
Sounds good.
Sounds good, but will places like gamespot just increase the price of used games to cover what they will lose and pass the cost on to us? Also, how will renting work?
This sounds okay actually. Steam should have a system like this..
All it does is prevent loaning games to a friend and I haven't done that in a while.
This controversy bothered me the least out of all of it. Devs deserve their money. Games aren't cars. It would have been nice to actually have an answer planned though when someone asks it 10 minutes after your show.
To be fair I don't think I'd want to lend anything to someone like that again, not unless I really understood them and the (hopefully freak) circumstances behind that. And admittedly I'd lean towards lending games that at worst I can replace for cheap later (Suikoden II? Uhhh, probably not. RE2? Whoops, I forgot to make sure to get that back before I moved but it's on PSN for $6 and I was a pussy about getting through the game so who cares.)A smashed N64 cart wasn't the greatest experience either.
Devs have stated that it is a problem. I would MUCH rather have money go to devs (people who MADE the game) than some masive storechain...
So what? Who lends £40 discs to get scratched to fuck anyway?