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[pswii60]

Recently we've seen a lot of new announcements from Nintendo and Sony is rumoured to have 11(?)unannounced first party titles in the works for TGS. Is whatever Microsoft has in store enough to grab more mindshare?

It seems more and more like they will have to outdo themselves just to keep up with what the others have to offer. Enticing the customer with a solid library is one way to increase market share but if your competitors also have a growing library then much of what you do is nullified.

If they don't show a lot at TGS I fear they may fall behind rather than vie for second spot.

MS are doing the TGS keynote, so who knows.

 

[Pureauthor]

MS are doing the TGS keynote, so who knows.

TGS keynotes are very rarely used for big announcements anyway.

 

[GarthVaderUK]

TGS keynotes are very rarely used for big announcements anyway.

This is Xbox's first TGS keynote, isn't it? They might have something up their sleeve.

Edit: from Major Nelson's blog:

I am pretty excited to return to Tokyo especially since Xbox will, for the first time, be delivering a keynote at TGS. I am going to do my best to have the complete audio of the keynote available later that day for download. I’ll also try to live blog the event on my Twitter, but that is dependent on my connectivity at the venue. Either way, the keynote is at 12–noon local time on Thursday, October 9th, so expect the news to start flowing following the event.

 

[Paracelsus]

This is Xbox's first TGS keynote, isn't it? They might have something up their sleeve.

No. They probably thought they finally gained the right to do that.

 

[jimbo]

Does anyone know what the shortage situation is like in Japan currently? Has it been fixed? Or are there still reports? There were a couple of people in here last week talking about how they still didn't get their pre-orders and how some stores were still charging the old price. Is that still the case?

 

[Jonnyram]

Famitsu top 10 for the month 9/1-9/28

1. Pokemon Platinum 1,481,725
2. Super Robot Wars Z 360,824
3. Rhythm Tengoku Gold 179,055 / 804,493
4. Quiz Magic Academy 138,872
5. Dragonball DS 114,360
6. Infinite Undiscovery 100,737
7. Wii Fit 92,053 / 2,607,431
8. One Piece Unlimited Cruise Episode 1 74,129
9. World Destruction 58,511
10. Band Bros DX 52,391 / 353,348

 

[AnimeTheme]

I wonder what criteria are used to decide which company does the TGS keynotes.

 

[Segata Sanshiro]

I wonder what criteria are used to decide which company does the TGS keynotes.

Pokemon battles, I'd imagine.

 

[Psychotext]

Pokemon battles, I'd imagine.

Epic. :lol

 

[Captain Smoker]

Updated All-Time Top50... Top70 now.


Rank / System / Title / First week / LTD / Publisher / Numbers till

Nintendo, Nintendo, Nintendo, Nintendo, Square, Nintendo, Nintendo, Enix, Nintendo, Nintendo xD

 

[Pureauthor]

From 960K to 10 million.

Ah, Pokemon.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

From 960K to 10 million.

Ah, Pokemon.

Wow. I knew the game was really leggy, but I didn't remember that it was such an immediate big hit, too. That's a pretty crazy start for a new series. Looking at that list, the other biggest first week for an original title is 649K for Gran Turismo. Though there are many without the first week available at all.

 

[JavyOO7]

Only battles I am interested in seeing if NSMB can make it to 6 million and if MK Wii could surpass MK DS. Probably about the only few games I am interested in tracking.

 

[Kurosaki Ichigo]

Pokemon Red/Green first week was 109,207, that 961k is adding Yellow first week which came out 2 years and 7 months later.

 

[Captain Smoker]

Pokemon Red/Green first week was 109,207, that 961k is adding Yellow first week which came out 2 years and 7 months later.

Thx, I looked over my 1996 data just yet and noticed it, too.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

Pokemon Red/Green first week was 109,207, that 961k is adding Yellow first week which came out 2 years and 7 months later.

A slight change. :lol

 

[Liabe Brave]

Sure, 5-week-ahead full lineup, medium-sized, at least, releases bolded:
10/09 Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock
10/16 FaceBreaker
10/16 Guitar Hero: Aerosmith on Tour
10/16 Guitar Hero: Aerosmith on Tour (w/Guitar)
10/23 Gundam Musou International (Platinum Collection)
10/23 NBA Live 09
10/30 Brothers In Arms Hell's Highway
10/30 Fracture
10/30 Grand Theft Auto IV
11/06 Ace Combat 6: Kaihou e no Senka (Platinum Collection)
11/06 Assassin's Creed (Platinum Collection)
11/06 Beautiful Katamari Damacy (Platinum Collection)
11/06 Lost Odyssey (Platinum Collection)
11/06 Project Gotham Racing 4 (Platinum Collection)

Thanks a lot! This is probably a very good time to do rereleases, as they have a bunch of new hardware owners looking for more games. But there's probably not a lot of hardware-driving titles in there. (GTA is popular for a western game, and cheaper Gundam/AC6/LO might tip some folks' hands, but nothing screams big success.) I stick by my prediction of falloff--in one of two configurations--over the next months until Last Remnant.

 

[PantherLotus]

awesome chart Captain Smoker!

(HOLY SHIT @ DS GAMES IN TOP 10 ALL TIME!) :lol

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

So I looked up that top list for Xbox in 2005. Turns out Fable was the #1 Xbox game of the year. Here's the top 10 in image form:

You can see that before now, only three of these 10 had any data included in Garaph. In places #11-20, only returning Halo 2 was already in.

 

[Nocebo]

Nintendo, Nintendo, Nintendo, Nintendo, Square, Nintendo, Nintendo, Enix, Nintendo, Nintendo xD

Noone should ever question the validity of Nintendo's actions, ever. They know what they're doing.

Spoiler

except for virtua boy

 

[sphinx]

awesome chart Captain Smoker!

(HOLY SHIT @ DS GAMES IN TOP 10 ALL TIME!) :lol

indeed, the chart is awesome and very informative.

What I concluded from the chart:

.- New super mario bros is the most succesful mario game since the original famicom game. we already knew that but it really is amazing to realize it really is that big.

.- Animal crossing, what the fuck happened there? Nr. 8 japanese all-time sales... bizarre.

.- Nintendo owns the complete top 10.... with software from 20 years ago and 3 years ago...

I can't believe people thought nintendo was going bankrupt just because the gamecube flopped.. :lol :lol

 

[HK-47]

And Platinum and DQ IX are certain to enter that list and get quite far up it. DQ VI also has a good shot as well

 

[Rpgmonkey]

FFVI and FFV outsold FFX (The SFC versions no less)?

The series really has declined somewhat in Japan huh...

 

[PantherLotus]

indeed, the chart is awesome and very informative.

What I concluded from the chart:

.- New super mario bros is the most succesful mario game since the original famicom game. we already knew that but it really is amazing to realize it really is that big.

.- Animal crossing, what the fuck happened there? Nr. 8 japanese all-time sales... bizarre.

.- Nintendo owns the complete top 10.... with software from 20 years ago and 3 years ago...

I can't believe people thought nintendo was going bankrupt just because the gamecube flopped.. :lol :lol

I think any cries of bankruptcy were clearly delusional, but surely you could observe the downward trend of Nintendo's business decisions as it relates to gaming as we knew it leading up to the GC-successor?

 

[sphinx]

I think any cries of bankruptcy were clearly delusional, but surely you could observe the downward trend of Nintendo's business decisions as it relates to gaming as we knew it leading up to the GC-successor?

you surely remember nintendo was often bullied as " the next sega " cause it was going to leave the hardware business due to the downward trend you mention.... but it has always been an statement with no basis whatsoever, complete and utter nonsense.

Nintendo and " good finances" are synonyms.

I do get your point, it was getting scary seeing how nintendo and their home consoles were so "out" and "out of touch"....

 

[DarkMehm]

FFVI and FFV outsold FFX (The SFC versions no less)?

The series really has declined somewhat in Japan huh...

Those FFX, X-2 and XII numbers are vastly incomplete. There were an international version of FFX, a budget release, a budget international version, a FFX/X-2 Bundle, a budget rerelease. Square shipped 3.02 million and almost sold that many if you count all of those releases.

 

[jibblypop]

.- New super mario bros is the most succesful mario game since the original famicom game. we already knew that but it really is amazing to realize it really is that big.

Yep it is! A lot of people on here are down on that game but it's exactly what A LOT of people wanted (including me!)

 

[PantherLotus]

you surely remember nintendo was often bullied as " the next sega " cause it was going to leave the hardware business due to the downward trend you mention.... but it has always been an statement with no basis whatsoever, complete and utter nonsense.

Nintendo and " good finances" are synonyms.

I do get your point, it was getting scary seeing how nintendo and their home consoles were so "out" and "out of touch"....

Agreed on all counts.

 

[jimbo]

Agreed on all counts.

Good to see you back. You've been MIA a couple of days. Just to remind you, I did respond to your last post, on page 5.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

Those FFX, X-2 and XII numbers are vastly incomplete. There were an international version of FFX, a budget release, a budget international version, a FFX/X-2 Bundle, a budget rerelease. Square shipped 3.02 million and almost sold that many if you count all of those releases.

Looking at what I've got as most recent for those various FFXs...
Final Fantasy X: 2,323,463
Final Fantasy X International: 240,940
Final Fantasy X (Mega Hits!): 199,429
Final Fantasy X (Ultimate Hits): 179,959
Final Fantasy X/X-2 (Ultimate Hits): 25,784
Final Fantasy X International (ULTIMATE): 47,676

Sum of the above: 3,017,251

Since this is a fairly common thing to come up, and FFX is a pretty special case for as many rereleases it's had (that actually charted), I've tossed them into a group. X-2 and XII as well, though their rereleases are a smaller part of their whole. Looks like XII finally had an Ultimate Hits release in June, but didn't make a Top 30; we'll probably see it in this year's Top 500.

 

[jimbo]

Nintendo, Nintendo, Nintendo, Nintendo, Square, Nintendo, Nintendo, Enix, Nintendo, Nintendo xD

Yeah in terms of games Japan has always been about Nintendo, Square and Enix. Mainly Nintendo. Pretty crazy.

 

[PantherLotus]

Good to see you back. You've been MIA a couple of days. Just to remind you, I did respond to your last post, on page 5.

Oh that's nice.

1. I guess Blue Dragon week makes that "once," which doesn't really help your case (on the 360 going over 30k past its launch period).

2. In an evolving conversation, one can be expected to reiterate how they come up with ridiculous numbers such as yours. If you can't, or forgot, then link the post here (and you'll probably see why it was ignored the first time).

3. Shortages? "ok."

4. Yeah, I was accidently looking at 06 instead of 05 as the launch period.

5. You have an interesting and optimistic outlook, but your methods have not worked in the past, nor will they work now. Mine have. Good luck with your hopes and guesses.

 

[Kurosaki Ichigo]

And finally SCEJ remembered about PS3 hardware situation:
PS3 80GB + Dual Shock 3 (Black/White/Silver) - 39980Y

But for a limited time, its including Gran Turismo 5 Prologue Spec III for free. But the game itself will also be available stand-alone. October 30 for this, dunno for the hardware:
Gran Turismo 5 Prologue Spec III Blu-Ray - 4980Y
Gran Turismo 5 Prologue Spec III Downloadable - 4500Y

Now Little Big Planet gets an official bundle:
PS3 80GB + 2 Dual Shock 3 (Black/White/Silver) + Little Big Planet - 44980Y

Controller bundles with LBP too:
Dual Shock 3 (Black/White/Silver) + Little Big Planet - 7980Y

 

[Kurosaki Ichigo]

Extra post

DSL　45000
PSP　24000
Wii　26000
PS3　7500
PS2　8600
360　7700

1.Platinum　121000　1603000
2.Musou 5 SP　115000
3.SRWZ　59000　420000
4.Rhythm Tengoku G　44000　848000
5.Pawapuro MLB PS2　18000
6.Wii Fit　16000　2623000
7.World Destruction　15000　74000
8.ToLoveru　15000
9.Ikkitousen　13000
10.Mario Kart Wii　12000　1756000

Other new games
27.Pawapuro MLB Wii　4300
....Raiden IV　3000
....カヌチ　2000
....UNKNOWN　690

 

[Jonnyram]

What happened to jimbo again?

Famitsu 9/29 - 10/05

DSL　45000
PSP　24000
Wii　26000
PS3　7500
PS2　8600
360　7700

1.Pokemon Platinum 121000　1603000
2.Musou 5 SP　115000
3.SRWZ　59000　420000
4.Rhythm Tengoku　44000　848000
5.Powerful Major League 3 PS2　18000
6.WiiFit　16000　2623000
7.World Destruction　15000　74000
8.ToLoveru　15000
9.Ikkitosen　13000
10.Mario Kart Wii　12000　1756000

12.Dragonball DS　9500　124000
13.Band Bros DX　8900　362000
14.One Piece　6900　81000
15.Quiz Magic Academy　6900　146000
16.Taiko no Tatsujin DS2　6000　358000
17.Cross Edge　5900　34000
18.WiiSports　5900　3146000
19.Disaster　5800　19000
20.Inazuma Eleven　5500　105000
21.Aquanaut's Holiday　5200　20000
22.Shinobido　5200　30000
23.JLeague Winning Eleven　4800　161000
24.Mario Kart DS　4700　3216000
25.Manakhemia P　4500　17000
26.PS Portable　4500　611000
27.Powerful Major League 3 Wii　4300
28.I'm gonna guess this one is Trusty Bell PS3　4100　43000
30.Knights in the Nightmare　3700　13000

--.Raiden IV　3000
--.Kanuchi　2000
--.Unknown Soldier　690

 

[Paracelsus]

What happened to jimbo again?

"Wii is not a gaming console" etc.

Also, what a piece of shit: PS2 back to outsell both PS3 and 360 after three fucking years this gen has started.

 

[JaMarco]

DSlite sales slipping
I wonder why?

 

[loosus]

New Super Mario Bros. is one of the best-selling Mario games ever.

New Super Mario Bros. is one of the best Mario games ever.

Super Mario Galaxy sold the status quo.

Super Mario Galaxy is status-quo quality.

Glad I was able to clear up any misconceptions anyone had!

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

5.Pawapuro MLB PS2　18000
27.Pawapuro MLB Wii　4300

Both down from last year.

2007
PS2: 43K (105K by end of year)
Wii: 6.8K (25K by end of year)

Super Mario Galaxy sold the status quo.

Super Mario Galaxy is status-quo quality.

Status quo of what? 3D Mario platformers?

 

[Segata Sanshiro]

Lol, not one, but *two* ero games in the top ten. Palms will be red this week!

 

[Kurosaki Ichigo]

Both down from last year.

2007
PS2: 43K (105K by end of year)
Wii: 6.8K (25K by end of year)

1000Y cheaper on Wii too this year.

 

[jj984jj]

PS3　7500
360　7700

Still?

It's so close this week though, MC might put the PS3 ahead.

 

[Johann]

Someone fetch the Bengay!

 

[Frillen]

Platinum is already close to Emerald's LTD?

And wow at the DSi impact. DS down 15k.

 

[perfectchaos007]

19.Disaster　5800　19000

It will do better in the states I promise. PLEASE REGGIE BRING IT TO US!

 

[Cosmonaut X]

1000Y cheaper on Wii too this year.

But does it actually do anything with the hardware or feature anything beyond what is available in the PS2 version? Price is part of the equation here, but if you're offering the same game on both platforms then I don't see how you're going to see a huge transfer to the new one.

 

[Segata Sanshiro]

It will do better in the states I promise. PLEASE REGGIE BRING IT TO US!

Don't lie to Reggie.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

Platinum is already close to Emerald's LTD?

Since it should keep going down each week it's still got a ways to go, but it did take Emerald about a year to reach 1.6 million.

 

[botticus]

1000Y cheaper on Wii too this year.

Amusing that T2 is doing the exact opposite with the franchise in the US, but performance is also flipped between the two versions so it makes sense. If I'm not mistaken, Power Pros 2008 was only $20 on PS2 compared to $40 on Wii.

 

[test_account]

Palms will be red this week!

Haha