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Media Create Sales 4/14 - 4/20

MisterHero

MisterHero

Super Member
Pachael said:
maybe, since this is a sales thread, so talk about quality is thread-breaking. the question should be whether sega should just make shadow the hedgehog sequels as that at least clears 1 million plus worldwide.
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no millions of sales or billions of yen will redeem shadow's savagery of the souls in the human populace
 
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Vinnk

Member
cvxfreak said:
I wonder if Biohazard Umbrella Chronicles will return to the MC or Famitsu charts. Capcom put the Wii Zapper Expert Pack back on store shelves last week and I think it's selling nicely.
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Haven't seen then in my town yet. When is crossbow training out? That might cause a rise in sales for all the gun games.
 
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cvxfreak

Member
Vinnk said:
Haven't seen then in my town yet. When is crossbow training out? That might cause a rise in sales for all the gun games.
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You'll see it on Amazon Japan for sure, and a lot of stores in Tokyo (like Bic and Tsutaya).

I noticed that I never see the Ghost Squad pack anymore. HOTD seems to have taken its place.
 
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Segata Sanshiro

Member
Vinnk said:
This.

A lot of the games I love don't sell well at all. But those discussions are for other threads.

For example, Treasure Hunter Z is regarded by many to be one of the best games of last year. Yet in this thread calling it anything other than a failure is spinning. Failure might have nothing to do with quality of the game (though in a lot of cases low sales are for exactly this reason.

So when you see many people calling a game or system a flop, failure, ect. That doesn't mean it is a bad game. But in a sales-age thread we can't let that get ahead of the numbers.

Like in a sports thread where people are comparing batting averages. It doesn't matter if the guy had a cold (leading to a lower score) or if he is a really great father (so stop hating on him!). His score is low, that's what matters.
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Yep, same for me and NiGHTS. Love JoD, but calling it anything other than a sales crater would be disingenuous to the spirit of this thread.

There's a reason why the MC threads are generally more well-behaved affairs than the NPD threads, and a lot of it is the strict adherence to the one thing that can overcome all insanity: facts.
 
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Vinnk

Member
cvxfreak said:
You'll see it on Amazon Japan for sure, and a lot of stores in Tokyo (like Bic and Tsutaya).

I noticed that I never see the Ghost Squad pack anymore. HOTD seems to have taken its place.
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Yeah. Should hit my town soon, it always takes reorders a bit of time to hit the small towns. But yeah, I haven't seen Ghost Squad in any for for a long time. And I never saw a price drop so I think SEGA sold every copy shipped. Did it ever get a price drop in your area?

I wanted the Biohazard pack so much but I could never find it, so i just bought the game and a Link's Crossbow Training pack last time I was in the States.
 
Spirit Icana

Spirit Icana

Member
I suppose Media Create or Famitsu would not track DS electronic novel titles sold in bookstores. I always wonder if Iriya no Sora did okay. I believe Media Works shipped their titles to both game stores and book stores.

Iriya got a sequel, but the first one didn't finish the story so it doesn't speak much about its sales. And with the story already written years beforehand, money would mostly sink on music, SFX, and Eji Komatsu art. Oh, and on that awesome 3 level side-scrolling shooter minigame, Parocaptor SO5.
 
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PantherLotus

Professional Schmuck
Segata Sanshiro said:
There's a reason why the MC threads are generally more well-behaved affairs than the NPD threads, and a lot of it is the strict adherence to the one thing that can overcome all insanity: facts.
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Which also makes it harder to fly bullshit through here, so instead of a lot of debate, we get a lot of head nodding agreements. I guess it comes down to interpretation of the data. Personally, I think I should work on not running people with horrendously stupid fanboy arguments out of the thread so quickly. I felt particularly bad (awesome) about jimbo, who I'm pretty sure never came into a MC thread again.

On topic, it appears we've reached the meta of the thread.
 
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icecream

Public Health Threat
Spirit Icana said:
Iriya got a sequel, but the first one didn't finish the story so it doesn't speak much about its sales. And with the story already written years beforehand, money would mostly sink on music, SFX, and Eji Komatsu art. Oh, and on that awesome 3 level side-scrolling shooter minigame, Parocaptor SO5.
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The general reaction to both titles was that it was a silly venture, as anyone would rather pick up the novels for less and not be constrained to a battery, electronic dependent version.

But I'm sure Media Works was aiming for sales due to its... novelty (and the LE mini-artbooks!) rather than serious readers.
 
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Vinnk

Member
ethelred said:
I should try to be nicer.
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Yeah. You should build up and empower people. Encourage them to try.

When people say, for example, "ASH sales are fine considering that it was the first DS game from Mistwalker and it's a SRPG" instead of telling them the truth, please tell them:

"As long as the sales are good enough to you, that's all that matters"

Then everyone feels good and there are no BOMBA games anymore. This thread should be about positive energy and feelings.
 
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Sagitario

Member
Vinnk said:
Yeah. You should build up and empower people. Encourage them to try.

When people say, for example, "ASH sales are fine considering that it was the first DS game from Mistwalker and it's a SRPG" instead of telling them the truth, please tell them:

"As long as the sales are good enough to you, that's all that matters"

Then everyone feels good and there are no BOMBA games anymore. This thread should be about positive energy and feelings.
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AnimeTheme

Member
icecream said:
You seriously think that having a game with high production values and cost such as Valkyria only doing slightly better than a low-budget sprite-based SRPG is good?

Disgaea 3 did 40K first day as well. Then it did 54K for the week.
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Did I say it was "good"? Considering the budget, 100k definitely won't be good for Sega. That said, predicting that there is "no chance" to break just 100k when it has a 40k first-day opening (remember that new IP is usually less front-loaded than established franchise like Disgaea) is just a bit insane.
 
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icecream

Public Health Threat
AnimeTheme said:
That said, predicting that there is "no chance" to break just 100k when it has a 40k first-day opening (remember that new IP is usually less front-loaded than established franchise like Disgaea) is just a bit insane.
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100K for the first week.

Aren't new IPs the harder sell? For a game like Disgaea, even with slow opening sales, you can count on reserve fans indicated from previous sales that may be slow in picking up the release. For a new IP, first day sales are pretty much an indicator of how well advertising and publicity was in pulling interest for the release.

Theoretically, if first day sales are not optimal, what other variable would lead to a greater increase in sales during the week that wouldn't have affected the first day?
 
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cvxfreak

Member
Dascu said:
Hmmm. :\

Oh, question: What's ASH's LTD so far? Is there really no chance that it'll get localized? And if not, would it be worth importing?
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An LTD worthy of a ¥980 pricepoint as of a few days ago...
 
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dabra

Member
Famitsu

PSP　99000
Wii　49000
DSL　40000
PS3　11000
PS2　7800
360　1900

1.Mario Kart Wii　143000　(952000)
2.MHP2G　120000　(1851000)
3.Senjou no Valkyria (PS3)　78000
4.Taiko no Tatsujin DS 2　60000
5.Summon Night (DS)　44000
6.WiiFit　36000 (1890000)
7.Bokura ha Kaseki-Horida (DS)　25000　(65000)
8.DS Bi-Mozi Training　22000　(185000)
9.Musou Orochi: Maou Sairin (PS2)　18000　(332000)
10.Pokémon Ranger: Batonnage (DS)　17000　(463000)

11 DS NARUTO 15000
12.Mario Kart DS　14000　2979000
13.Pro Baseball Sprits 5 (PS2)　13000　134000
14.Deca Sporta (Wii)　12000　146000
16.Rainbow Six 2 Vegas (360)　12000
17.Wii Sports　11000　(2883000)
18.Wii Playi　11000　(2301000)
19.神宮寺　9400
20.Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Wii)　9300　(1611000)
21.Yatta Man(DS)　7600
23.H2O+ (PS2)　7000
24.SO2 (PSP)　6700　125000
25.Sim City DS 2 　6600　111000
26.Prism Ark AWAKE　6300
27.逆裁4　6000
28.逆裁3　5700
29.Pro Baseball Sprits 5 (PS3)　5400　73000


外.フロントライン　5100
外.Days of Memories 2　4600
外.エーデル　3200
外.ペネロペ　3100
外.That's QT (DS)　2800
外.湯けむり　2400
外.おしゃれに恋して2　2000
外.ミステリート　1700
外.ベガスPS3　1300
外.くりーんきーぱー　970
 
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Sharp

Member
dabra said:
Famitsu

PSP　99000
Wii　49000
DSL　40000
PS3　11000
PS2　7800
360　1900

1.Mario Kart Wii　143000　(952000)
2.MHP2G　120000　(1851000)
3.Senjou no Valkyria (PS3)　78000
4.Taiko no Tatsujin DS 2　60000
5.Summon Night (DS)　44000
6.WiiFit　36000 (1890000)
7.Bokura ha Kaseki-Horida (DS)　25000　(65000)
8.DS Bi-Mozi Training　22000　(185000)
9.Musou Orochi: Maou Sairin (PS2)　18000　(332000)
10.Pokémon Ranger: Batonnage (DS)　17000　(463000)

11 DS NARUTO 15000
12.Mario Kart DS　14000　2979000
13.Pro Baseball Sprits 5 (PS2)　13000　134000
14.Deca Sporta (Wii)　12000　146000
16.Rainbow Six 2 Vegas (360)　12000
17.Wii Sports　11000　(2883000)
18.Wii Playi　11000　(2301000)
19.神宮寺　9400
20.Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Wii)　9300　(1611000)
21.Yatta Man(DS)　7600
23.H2O+ (PS2)　7000
24.SO2 (PSP)　6700　125000
25.Sim City DS 2 　6600　111000
26.プリズムアーク　6300
27.逆裁4　6000
28.逆裁3　5700
29.Pro Baseball Sprits 5 (PS3)　5400　73000


外.フロントライン　5100
外.デイズオブメモリ2　4600
外.エーデル　3200
外.ペネロペ　3100
外.QT　2800
外.湯けむり　2400
外.おしゃれに恋して2　2000
外.ミステリート　1700
外.ベガスPS3　1300
外.くりーんきーぱー　970
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Wow, so almost no dropoff for Monster Hunter?
 
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Souldriver

Member
PSP won't drop off anytime soon.
MHP2G seems to follow the pattern of the DS and Wii million sellers. It's going to be in the charts for a looong time.
 
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Captain Smoker

Member
PSP　99000
Wii　49000
DSL　40000
PS3　11000
PS2　7800
360　1900

1. Mario Kart Wii (Wii) 143.000 [952.000]
2. Monster Hunter Portable 2nd G (PSP) 120.000 [1.851.000]
3. Valkyrie of the Battlefield: Gallian Chronicles (PS3) 78.000 [78.000]
4. Meccha Taiko Drum Master DS: Adventure in Seven Islands (DS) 60.000 [60.000]
5. Summon Night (DS) 44.000 [44.000]
6. Wii Fit (Wii) 36.000 [1.890.000]
7. Bokura ha Kaseki-Horida (DS) 25.000 [65.000]
8. DS Bi-Mozi Training (DS) 22.000 [185.000]
9. Musou Orochi: Maou Sairin (PS2) 18.000 [332.000]
10. Pokémon Ranger: Batonnage (DS) 17.000 [463.000]

11. Naruto Sippuuden Shinobi Retsuden 2 (DS) 15.000 [15.000]
12. Mario Kart DS (DS) 14.000 [2.979.000]
13. Pro Baseball Sprits 5 (PS2) 13.000 [134.000]
14. Deca Sporta (Wii) 12.000 [146.000]
15. Vantage Master Portable (PSP) 12.000 [12.000]
16. Rainbow Six Vegas 2 (360) 12.000 [12.000]
17. Wii Sports (Wii) 11.000 [2.883.000]
18. Wii Play (Wii) 11.000 [2.301.000]
19. Detective Saburo Jinguji: Lasting Heart (DS) 9.400 [9.400]
20. Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Wii) 9.300 [1.611.000]
21. Yatta Man DS: Bikkuri Dokkiri Daisakusen da-koron (DS) 7.600 [7.600]
22.
23. H2O Plus (PS2) 7.000 [7.000]
24. Star Ocean: Second Evolution (PSP) 6.700 [125.000]
25. Sim City DS 2 (DS) 6.600 [111.000]
26. Prism Ark -AWEAK- (PS2) 6.300 [6.300]
27. Phoenix Wright 4 (New Best Price 2000) (DS) 6.000 [6.000]
28. Phoenix Wright 3 (New Best Price 2000) (DS) 5.700 [5.700]
29. Pro Baseball Sprits 5 (PS3) 5.400 [73.000]
30. Dream Cat DS (DS) 5.300 [5.300]

xx. Flontline: Fuel of War (360) 5.100
xx. Days of Memories 2 (DS) 4.600
xx. Edel Blume (PS2) 3.200
xx. Oyakode Asoberu DS Picture Book: Ukkari Penerope (DS) 3.100
xx. That's QT (DS) 2.800
xx. DS Yukemuri Suspence Series Free Writer Tachibana Maki: Touyako, "Seven Hotsprings and Okuyu no Sato" reporter's notebook (DS) 2.400
xx. Osyare ni Koi Shite 2: Osyare Princess (??) 2.000
xx. Mystereet Portable: the Challenge of Yasogami Kaoru (??) 1.700
xx. Rainbow Six Vegas (PlayStatoin 3 the Best) (PS3) 1.300
xx. Osouji Sentai Clean Keeper (Wii) 970
 
K

Kyoufu

Member
Segata Sanshiro said:
Talking about game quality except as a function of how it relates to game sales isn't really a part of Media-Create threads. We're talking about sales, we can't afford to let our emotions get in the way.
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Its not a failure though. I wouldn't be surprised if it sells a healthy amount in US/EU simply because of how RPG starved the PS3 is. The art-style is amazing and the gameplay is very refreshing. I don't see this game selling poorly. Atleast, the hardcore will buy it.

In the end it doesn't really matter, its the genre itself pulling it down and not it's art style or gameplay system.

And holy shit @ PSP, it has risen to heaven in Japan.
 
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ksamedi

Member
PSP and DS hardware switched positions. The PSP is selling insanely well. I think that even if Nintendo dropped the DS price they would have a hard time competing with those sales. Not that it matters much but its surprising to see such a turnaround in the Japanese handheld market. I think pretty soon we will be seeing a lot of PSP software populating the charts as well.
 
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test_account

XP-39C²
Kinda big bump for PSP, i wonder what caused it? Here are the last weeks Famitsu hardware numbers for comparison:

PSP: 78.947
Wii: 42.089
DSL: 37.371
PS3: 8.176
PS2: 8.043
360: 1.769

EDIT: It seems that every system except PS2 got a bump this week, but the PSP seems to be the biggest one.
 
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Pureauthor

Member
Kyoufu said:
Its not a failure though. I wouldn't be surprised if it sells a healthy amount in US/EU simply because of how RPG starved the PS3 is. The art-style is amazing and the gameplay is very refreshing. I don't see this game selling poorly. Atleast, the hardcore will buy it.
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Yeah, well, we've only Japan sales to base stuff on, and based on Japan sales, it's selling pretty crappy.
 
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Segata Sanshiro

Member
test_account said:
Kinda big bump for PSP, i wonder what caused it? Here are the last weeks Famitsu hardware numbers for comparison:

PSP: 78.947
Wii: 42.089
DSL: 37.371
PS3: 8.176
PS2: 8.043
360: 1.769
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Bronze color came out.
 
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jj984jj

He's a pretty swell guy in my books anyway.
I wonder what caused the Wii bump, nothing came out for it except a shitty Idea Factory game.
 
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Phife Dawg

Member
So how many colours does Sony have up it's sleeve?

MH continues to amaze, as does MK. If this has legs even remotely resembling the DS one it'll be monstrous.

Valkyrie does OK for the week, I definetly expected less after the first day sales.

PS3 is over 10k again, will it stay that way with no big release on the horizon?
 
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Captain Smoker

Member
Wii Sports [2.883.000 units] finally passed Street Fighter 2 [2.880.000] in the japanese All-Time chart.

It´s now @ rank 24, the next game is Mario Kart DS with 2.979.000 btw. Donkey Kong Country with 3.000.000 units. ^^
 
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