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[Chris1964]

2 months until Pokemon Black / White.

Many thanks to enterbrain for (finally) seperating the sales of Pokemon Red / Green / Blue and Yellow and to Road for finding it.

27/02/96 [NGB] Pokemon Red / Green / Blue (Nintendo) - 140.074 / 7.783.101
12/09/98 [NGB] Pokemon Yellow (Nintendo) - 851.091 / 2.294.065

21/11/99 [NGB] Pokemon Gold / Silver (Nintendo) - 1.425.768 / 6.089.503
14/12/00 [NGB] Pokemon Crystal (Nintendo) - 707.580 / 1.871.307

21/11/02 [GBA] Pokemon Ruby / Sapphire (Pokemon Co.) - 1.245.003 / 5.337.045

29/01/04 [GBA] Pokemon Fire Red / Leaf Green (Pokemon Co.) - 955.337 / 3.054.165

16/09/04 [GBA] Pokemon Emerald (Pokemon Co.) - 643.987 / 2.173.727

28/09/06 [NDS] Pokemon Diamond / Pearl (Pokemon Co.) - 1.586.360 / 5.767.283
13/09/08 [NDS] Pokemon Platinum (Pokemon Co.) - 967.675 / 2.539.431

12/09/09 [NDS] Pokemon Heart Gold / Soul Silver (Pokemon Co.) - 1.408.980 / 3.788.455

 

[Spiegel]

Top 10 is out.

WTF Fire Emblem > Dragon Quest Wii

http://www.famitsu.com/game/rank/sokuho/1237872_1796.html

 

[Chris1964]

Famitsu top 10: 12/07/10-18/07/10

01. [NDS] Fire Emblem: New Mystery of the Emblem - Hero of Light and Shadow (Nintendo) - WTF?
02. [WII] Dragon Quest: Monster Battle Road Victory (Square Enix)
03. [PS3] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2010 (Konami)
04. [WII] Wii Party (Nintendo)
05. [PSP] Last Ranker (Capcom)
06. [PSP] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2010 (Konami)
07. [NDS] Inazuma Eleven 3: World Challenge!! Spark / Bomber (Level 5)
08. [PS3] White Knight Chronicles: Awakening of Light and Darkness (SCE)
09. [PSP] Momotaro Railway Tag Match: Friendship - Cooperation - Winning Volume! (Hudson)
10. [NDS] Harvest Moon: Twin Villages (Marvelous Entertainment)

Over 200k for Fire Emblem? Maybe Nintendo must start announcing games earlier than 1 month before release.

 

[king zell]

Top 10 is out.

WTF Fire Emblem > Dragon Quest Wii

http://www.famitsu.com/game/rank/sokuho/1237872_1796.html

lol i was wondering the same thing? i thought DQ well do some big numbers

 

[Chris1964]

lol i was wondering the same thing? i thought DQ well do some big numbers

DQ did big numbers but we have another Wii Party here.

Remake of the best selling Fire Emblem + it was announced less than 2 months ago = predictions are a mess again.

 

[duckroll]

That's a really weird top10. Either there's a huge drop off for Wii Party and Inazuma 3, or Last Ranker is doing WAY better than expected. What's going on here? :lol

 

[Takao]

Man, that Top 10 right there is all kinds of weird. I never thought I'd see the day a Dragon Quest game released the same week in Japan as a Fire Emblem game would debut lower than the FE game.

 

[Chris1964]

Reposting from previous thread

Just noticed that sinobi has given numbers for the first 3 Fire Emblems we didn't have numbers. The list is now complete.

20/04/90 [NFC] Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon and the Blade of Light (Nintendo) - / 329.000
14/03/92 [NFC] Fire Emblem Gaiden (Nintendo) - / 325.000
21/01/94 [SFC] Fire Emblem: Mystery of the Emblem (Nintendo) - / 776.000
14/05/96 [SFC] Fire Emblem: Holy War Story (Nintendo) - 228.578 / 429.763 (498.000 from sinobi)
28/08/99 [SFC] Fire Emblem: Thracia 776 (Nintendo) - 30.104 / 158.695
29/03/02 [GBA] Fire Emblem: The Sealed Sword (Nintendo) - 126.267 / 345.574
25/04/03 [GBA] Fire Emblem: Blazing Sword (Nintendo) - 109.429 / 265.286
07/10/04 [GBA] Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones (Nintendo) - 146.026 / 246.719
20/04/05 [GCN] Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance (Nintendo) - 100.357 / 156.413
22/02/07 [WII] Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn (Nintendo) - 73.337 / 171.924
07/08/08 [NDS] Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon (Nintendo) - 147.704 / 252.309
15/07/10 [NDS] Fire Emblem: New Mystery of the Emblem - Hero of Light and Shadow (Nintendo) - ? / ?

This Fire Emblem has a shot to become the third (or even second) best selling of the series.

 

[cvxfreak]

According to Famitsu, Fire Emblem: New Mystery of the Emblem - Hero of Light and Shadow had around the same initial sales as 2008's Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon. So, everything should be below 140,000.

Shadow Dragon was actually released during the August holiday, so I'd say this new game had a relatively nicer start.

 

[duckroll]

According to Famitsu, Fire Emblem: New Mystery of the Emblem - Hero of Light and Shadow had around the same initial sales as 2008's Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon. So, everything should be below 140,000.

Shadow Dragon was actually released during the August holiday, so I'd say this new game had a relatively nicer start.

Everything <140k is massive bombage imo.

 

[farnham]

Everything <140k is massive bombage imo.

especially for DQMV

 

[sixteen-bit]

How did Blazblue CS perform? I know it popular in arcades but it doesn't look like the home console market cares at all :/

 

[Rocksteady33]

I thought someone mentioned that Wii Party was showing legs. What happened there?

 

[cvxfreak]

Everything <140k is massive bombage imo.

I personally didn't expect much out of the arcade DQ port, and Fire Emblem hasn't been a huge starter since the GBA days.

That said, I think the top slots will be relatively close to each other. Maybe even within 10% of each other.

I thought someone mentioned that Wii Party was showing legs. What happened there?

Positions don't mean everything, so we should wait for the actual numbers to hit. Wii Party will be around for awhile.

 

[schuelma]

especially for DQMV

Yeah massive disappointment there.

 

[duckroll]

Well, here's what I'm looking at:

01. [NDS] Fire Emblem: New Mystery of the Emblem - Hero of Light and Shadow (Nintendo) <-- let's say 140k
02. [WII] Dragon Quest: Monster Battle Road Victory (Square Enix) <-- 110-130k
03. [PS3] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2010 (Konami) <-- ~100k
04. [WII] Wii Party (Nintendo)
05. [PSP] Last Ranker (Capcom)
06. [PSP] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2010 (Konami)
07. [NDS] Inazuma Eleven 3: World Challenge!! Spark / Bomber (Level 5)
08. [PS3] White Knight Chronicles: Awakening of Light and Darkness (SCE)
09. [PSP] Momotaro Railway Tag Match: Friendship - Cooperation - Winning Volume! (Hudson)
10. [NDS] Harvest Moon: Twin Villages (Marvelous Entertainment)

It's #4 and below which starts to get really puzzling. No matter how we look at it, Wii Party will have a 50% or higher drop. That's pretty high considering what it is.

Last Ranker at #5 would either mean that it performed much better than expected (over 70k) or Powerpro PSP and Inazuma 3 are bombing.

If Powerpro PSP is less than 50% of the PS3 version, that would be a huge decline in sales for the portable version of the series.

Inazuma 3 slipping below 50-60k would mean it's slowing down faster than Inazuma 2, which is odd given the timing and the increased initial interest in the release.

 

[cvxfreak]

Yeah massive disappointment there.

I don't know. It's an arcade port, and you need to have a DSi and the DSiWare software to enjoy the game. Not to mention we've already gotten two DQ games this year.

 

[duckroll]

I don't know. It's an arcade port, and you need to have a DSi and the DSiWare software to enjoy the game. Not to mention we've already gotten two DQ games this year.

I don't think that's true....

It's not a port, but a brand new home version of the arcade game concept. Just like DQS was not a port of the TV game thing. You also don't need a DSi and the DSiWare software to enjoy the game, because cards can be found in the game itself and collected like a normal game. The software is for you to scan in cards you happen to already have from playing the arcade game, to give arcade fans some sort of benefit for their support.

I could be wrong, and if you're clearer about it than I am, feel free to correct me, but that's my understanding.

 

[Chris1964]

I don't know. It's an arcade port, and you need to have a DSi and the DSiWare software to enjoy the game. Not to mention we've already gotten two DQ games this year.

5 with re-releases but maybe we pay too much attention to ''around the same initial sales''. FE can be at 140, 150 or 160k. DQ has kinda underperformed. The initial shipment was supposed to be around 300k.

 

[cvxfreak]

I don't think that's true....

It's not a port, but a brand new home version of the arcade game concept. Just like DQS was not a port of the TV game thing. You also don't need a DSi and the DSiWare software to enjoy the game, because cards can be found in the game itself and collected like a normal game. The software is for you to scan in cards you happen to already have from playing the arcade game, to give arcade fans some sort of benefit for their support.

I could be wrong, and if you're clearer about it than I am, feel free to correct me, but that's my understanding.

You probably know more than I do. I've seen the arcade game in person before, but not being a DQ fan, it was hard to make the distinction. It's scary that I thought it was an arcade port because I'm pretty sure a lot of casuals do as well, hence they don't feel much need to buy the game.

Dragon Quest Swords came many years after Kenshin, and the Wiimote was still a new thing back in 2007, so I can see why that one sold well (in addition to being quite story-driven, from what I heard). It did eventually hit the bomba bins, for what it's worth.

Of all the DQ games available on the market, which ranges from inexpensive versions of DQIV, V and IX to the recent Joker 2 and DQVI remake, this Wii game looks the least compelling out of all to pick up. I'm pretty sure with this side project out of the way, people can get back to waiting for some DQX news.

5 with re-releases but maybe we pay too much attention to ''around the same initial sales''. FE can be at 140, 150 or 160k. DQ has kinda underperformed. The initial shipment was supposed to be around 300k.

In Japanese, Famitsu used the term "&#12411;&#12412;&#22793;&#12431;&#12425;&#12394;&#12356;" which translates to "nearly unchanged." The nuance suggests that the sales are very similar. Could be a small difference, though.

 

[onken]

Famitsu top 10: 12/07/10-18/07/10
.

That's a pretty wacky top 10.

Inazuma 3 slipping below 50-60k would mean it's slowing down faster than Inazuma 2, which is odd given the timing and the increased initial interest in the release.

Really wouldn't surprise me if the world cup made it more front loaded rather less.

 

[Chris1964]

It's #4 and below which starts to get really puzzling. No matter how we look at it, Wii Party will have a 50% or higher drop. That's pretty high considering what it is.

[WII] Wii Sports (Nintendo) - 176.880 / 176.880
[WII] Wii Sports (Nintendo) - 75.575 / 252.455

[WII] Wii Play (Nintendo) - 171.888 / 171.888
[WII] Wii Play (Nintendo) - 68.053 / 239.941

[WII] Wii Fit (Nintendo) - 254.009 / 254.009
[WII] Wii Fit (Nintendo) - 153.219 / 407.228

[WII] Wii Music (Nintendo) - 98.865 / 98.865
[WII] Wii Music (Nintendo) - 42.114 / 140.979

[WII] Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo) - 353.827 / 353.827
[WII] Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo) - 153.194 / 507.021

[WII] Wii Fit Plus (Nintendo) - 318.755 / 318.755
[WII] Wii Fit Plus (Nintendo) - 140.149 / 458.904

We don't know Famitsu Wii Party first week sales yet (we know if someone has bought Famitsu magazine).

 

[oldie-newbie]

I hope that MC sales tomorrow will look like this:

Famitsu top 10: 12/07/10-18/07/10

01. [WII] Dragon Quest: Monster Battle Road Victory <-- >200k (Square Enix)
02. [NDS] Fire Emblem: New Mystery of the Emblem - Hero of Light and Shadow (Nintendo) <-- >200k
03. [WII] Wii Party <-- >100k (Nintendo)
04. [PS3] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2010 <-- around 100k (Konami)
05. [PSP] Last Ranker <-- around 60k (Capcom)
06. [PSP] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2010 (Konami)
07. [NDS] Inazuma Eleven 3: World Challenge!! Spark / Bomber (Level 5)
08. [PS3] White Knight Chronicles: Awakening of Light and Darkness (SCE)
09. [PSP] Momotaro Railway Tag Match: Friendship - Cooperation - Winning Volume! (Hudson)
10. [NDS] Harvest Moon: Twin Villages (Marvelous Entertainment)

and also Super Mario Galaxy 2 in the top ten. If not, very disappointing week all over...

 

[Road]

From 2ch:

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Wii &#12476;&#12494;&#12502;&#12524;&#12452;&#12489; 12&#19975;4171&#26412;
DS &#12521;&#12502;&#12503;&#12521;&#12473;&#65291; 10&#19975;5931&#26412;
DS &#12392;&#12365;&#12513;&#12514;GS3 7&#19975;1971&#26412;
DS &#32117;&#24515;&#25945;&#23460;DS 5&#19975;9861&#26412;
DS &#22826;&#40723;&#12489;&#12525;&#12525;&#12531; 6&#19975;9767&#26412;
DS &#12468;&#12540;&#12473;&#12488;&#12488;&#12522;&#12483;&#12463; 5&#19975;2791&#26412;
DS &#12469;&#12459;&#12388;&#12367;2010 10&#19975;451&#26412;
DS &#12513;&#12480;&#12525;&#12483;&#12488;DS 9&#19975;1425&#26412;
DS &#23721;&#30007;&#12476;&#12525;&#12467;&#12524; 2&#19975;9501&#26412;
Wii New&#12510;&#12522;&#12458;Wii 391&#19975;4868&#26412;
DS &#12487;&#12472;&#12514;&#12531;&#12525;&#12473;&#12488; 3&#19975;4409&#26412;
DS &#12383;&#12414;&#12372;&#12387;&#12385;&#12500;&#12481;&#12500;&#12481; 3&#19975;3336&#26412;

Supposedly on the newest Nintendo Dream, Media-Create up to 04/07:

[NDS] Let's Make a Pro Soccer Club! DS World Challenge 2010 (Sega) - 100.451
[NDS] Medarot DS: Kabuto / Kuwagata (Rocket Company) - 91.425
[NDS] Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective (Capcom) - 52.791
[NDS] Tamagotchi no Pichi Pichi Omisecchi (Bandai Namco) - 33.336
[NDS] Mega Man Zero Collection (Capcom) - 29.501

[WII] New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Nintendo) - 3.905.184
[WII] Xenoblade (Nintendo) - 124.171

 

[duckroll]

MC is up: http://www.gpara.com/ranking/mediacreatebn/ranking_20100722.php

FE and DQ are dead-tied. 120k for PS3 Baseball. 61k for Last Ranker.

 

[cvxfreak]

MC is up: http://www.gpara.com/ranking/mediacreatebn/ranking_20100722.php

FE and DQ are dead-tied. 120k for PS3 Baseball. 61k for Last Ranker.

Wow. They were very close after all. :lol

 

[mutsu]

Looks like another huge drop for Inazuma Eleven 3... not looking good!

Disappointed in the sales of DQ. I thought they spent quite a lot of effort into "porting" this game over to the Wii. The expectations on the sales must have been high, just look at that ridiculously expensive controller! Doesn't bold well for further DQ spin-offs on the Wii.

Oh well, I will be help them out by buying

Spoiler

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copy of the game

 

[Nirolak]

Looks like another huge drop for Inazuma Eleven 3... not looking good!

Maybe Level 5 will learn not to horrendously milk every game they make.

 

[duckroll]

Maybe Level 5 will learn not to horrendously milk every game they make.

I dunno thought. They shipped almost a million, and have sold through over 600k. I don't think they really care.

 

[Jigsaw]

is 61k for last ranker any good?hope capcom will still release it in the west

 

[Jigsaw]

double post

 

[donny2112]

Famitsu Jul 5-11

01./00. [WII] Wii Party (Nintendo) - 223,595 / NEW
02./00. [PS3] White Knight Chronicles: Awakening of Light and Darkness (SCEI) - 164,514 / NEW
03./01. [NDS] Inazuma Eleven 3: World Challenge! Spark/Bomber (Level 5) - 108,827 / 571,204 (-76%)
04./00. [NDS] Harvest Moon: Twin Villages (Marvelous) - 65,074 / NEW
05./02. [NDS] Taiko Drum Master 3: Dororon! Great Battle With the Ghouls!! (Namco Bandai Games) - 27,826 / 93,040 (-57%)
06./05. [WII] Super Mario Galaxy 2 (Nintendo) - 21,122 / 664,882 (-31%)
07./16. [NDS] Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver (Nintendo/Pokemon Co.) - 15,065 / 3,803,520 (+26%)
08./00. [360] Crackdown 2 (Microsoft Game Studios) - 13,861 / NEW
09./07. [PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2010: Aoki Samurai no Chousen (Blue Samurai Challenge) (Konami) - 12,809 / 173,460 (-32%)
10./17. [WII] Wii Fit Plus (Nintendo) - 11,508 / 2,016,744 (+1%)

11./11. [PSP] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2010: Aoki Samurai no Chousen (Blue Samurai Challenge) (Konami) - 11,322 / 100,117 (-23%)
12./12. [NDS] Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker 2 (Square Enix) - 11,227 / 1,219,712 (-19%)
13./15. [NDS] Tomodachi Collection (Friend Collection) (Nintendo) - 11,117 / 3,348,743 (-16%)
14./08. [NDS] Eigokoro Kyoushitsu DS (Art Academy) (Nintendo) - 10,993 / 76,383 (-38%)
15./06. [NDS] Love Plus+ (Konami) - 10,877 / 152,713 (-52%)
16./09. [NDS] Tokimeki Memorial Girl's Side 3rd Story (Konami) - 9,553 / 90,640 (-42%)
17./14. [PSP] Boku no Natsuyasumi Portable 2: The Mysterious Sisters and the Secrets of the Sunken Ship (SCEI) - 8,122 / 45,725 (-39%)
18./25. [WII] New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Nintendo) - 7,874 / 3,902,230 (+8%)
19./19. [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo) - 7,757 / 2,795,977 (-13%)
20./24. [PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 2 G (BEST Reprint) (Capcom) - 7,566 / 345,605 (+2%)
21./03. [PS3] BlazBlue: Continuum Shift (Arc System Works) - 7,225 / 53,179 (-84%)
22./20. [NDS] Tamagotchi no Pichi Pichi Omisecchi (Namco Bandai Games) - 5,860 / 40,804 (-30%)
23./18. [360] Monster Hunter Frontier Online (Capcom) - 5,762 / 98,229 (-42%)
24./13. [PS3] Atelier Totori: Alchemist of Arland 2 (Gust) - 5,637 / 91,826 (-58%)
25./22. [PS2] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2010: Aoki Samurai no Chousen (Blue Samurai Challenge) (Konami) - 5,558 / 58,894 (-32%)
26./21. [PSP] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva (BEST) (SEGA) - 5,506 / 42,372 (-33%)
27./00. [PSP] Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker (Konami) - 4,545 / 737,615
28./00. [PS2] Hana to Otome ni Shukufuku o: Harekaze no Okurimono (Flower Girl's Blessings: Gift of Spring Breeze) (Alchemist) - 4,492 / NEW
29./04. [NDS] Digimon Story: Lost Evolution (Namco Bandai Games) - 4,341 / 40,446 (-88%)
30./28. [WII] Xenoblade (Nintendo) - 4,223 / 120,123 (-34%)



Bar Chart Jul 5-11 (thanks to JoshuaJSlone/garaph.info)

Note: Image may be delayed from the time of this post, but will automatically show once the data is ready.


Recent Famitsu Top 30s

Jun 7-13, 2010
Jun 14-20, 2010
Jun 21-27, 2010
Jun 28-Jul 4, 2010

 

[GameplayWhore]

[WII] Wii Sports (Nintendo) - 176.880 / 176.880
[WII] Wii Sports (Nintendo) - 75.575 / 252.455

[WII] Wii Play (Nintendo) - 171.888 / 171.888
[WII] Wii Play (Nintendo) - 68.053 / 239.941

[WII] Wii Fit (Nintendo) - 254.009 / 254.009
[WII] Wii Fit (Nintendo) - 153.219 / 407.228

[WII] Wii Music (Nintendo) - 98.865 / 98.865
[WII] Wii Music (Nintendo) - 42.114 / 140.979

[WII] Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo) - 353.827 / 353.827
[WII] Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo) - 153.194 / 507.021

[WII] Wii Fit Plus (Nintendo) - 318.755 / 318.755
[WII] Wii Fit Plus (Nintendo) - 140.149 / 458.904

We don't know Famitsu Wii Party first week sales yet (we know if someone has bought Famitsu magazine).

So...

Wii Party (MC numbers) - 234892 first week, 113000 second week, a drop of 51.9%
That compares to (though not awesomely, being a different tracker and all)...

Wii Sports drop of 57.3%
Wii Play drop of 60.4%
Wii Fit drop of 39.7%
Wii Music drop of 57.4%
WSR drop of 56.3%
Wii Fit Plus drop of 56.0%

Did I math that out right? If so, it seems pretty par for the Nintendo longtailish course, so far.

According to Garaph (it looks like it's missing some data, though), the last game in the Nintendo [BLANK] Party series went from 282389 to 147084 (Famitsu), which is a slightly lesser drop of 47.9%.

 

[mutsu]

Maybe Level 5 will learn not to horrendously milk every game they make.

I don't think milking the franchise is a problem for them at all. They are making tons of yen from IE3 even if they haven't sold out of their first shipment.

I think they just expected the game to sell really well riding the World Cup wave. Didn't work out as well as they expected.

 

[Sammy Samusu]

is 61k for last ranker any good?hope capcom will still release it in the west

Yeah, we need some Imageepoch first week comparisions.

 

[cw_sasuke]

Inazuma 3 slipping below 50-60k would mean it's slowing down faster than Inazuma 2, which is odd given the timing and the increased initial interest in the release.

Thats what happens when you release the successor to an rpg just 9 months after the last game - or maybe more people realized how bad the anime is, still good sales for Level 5.

I wonder how much their first Layton Game on 3DS will sell.