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Media Create Sales: Week 15, 2017 (Apr 10 - Apr 16)

Principate

Saint Titanfall
I don't think its unfeasible eventually, given its UE4 and I assume SE is already working on Switch with that engine with DQXI...but I really really doubt that particular rumor is credible.

The rumour is fake as all hell, but the idea does seem too far fetched. Though perhaps unlikely depending on what the deal with Sony is exactly.
 

Zedark

Member
Final Fantasy VII Remake for Switch... thoughts?
Possible is the most I would call it. It'll be a challenge to get it to run acceptably, but there are plenty of times people said something was impossible or that we hit a wall for graphics already for the gen only to see the next big thing blow the expectations away. I will just wait for E3 to see what happens, won't get hyped for it yet (maybe if a true, reliable report surfaces).
 
If Nintendo managed to convince SE to put Final Fantasy VII R on Switch, it would be the most impressive thing they have pulled off to me since the Monster Hunter deal in 2011. I can see it happening, but it would be very, very surprising to me.
 

Cerium

Member
Final Fantasy VII Remake for Switch... thoughts?

I think it's real because of this:

I heard about a game that was planned (months ago) that if it ends up being true will get a thread for the archives. Let's see what happens at E3 this year!
Orgen leaked Pokemon Black 2 and White 2 months before the announcement, with the correct names and everything, when there was no precedent for that sort of thing in the series before. In this quote he's talking about a Japanese UE4 game coming to Switch.

I can't think of anything that would fit the description besides FF7R.
 

Zedark

Member
I think it's real because of this:


Orgen leaked Pokemon Black 2 and White 2 months before the announcement, with the correct names and everything, when there was no precedent for that sort of thing in the series before. In this quote he's talking about a Japanese UE4 game coming to Switch.

I can't think of anything that would fit the description besides FF7R.
Considering the anxiety showcased in the other thread at the suggestion, FFVII:R would definitely fit the bill. But then again, there are plenty other games like RDR2 and Destiny 2 that would fit the bill, so we'll see what we end up with at E3.

Edit: Nevermind, didn't read the UE4 bit.
 
I think it's real because of this:


Orgen leaked Pokemon Black 2 and White 2 months before the announcement, with the correct names and everything, when there was no precedent for that sort of thing in the series before. In this quote he's talking about a Japanese UE4 game coming to Switch.

I can't think of anything that would fit the description besides FF7R.

Pretty much. It wouldn't surprise me at all.

The most surprising thing about that thread to me is the continuing evidence that so many people here on GAF have no idea about engines, and ports, and scalability etc. I dunno, maybe it's because I'm a PC gamer that I don't immediately go "nope, the Switch can't even run xyz!"
 

ZSaberLink

Media Create Maven
Considering the anxiety showcased in the other thread at the suggestion, FFVII:R would definitely fit the bill. But then again, there are plenty other games like RDR2 and Destiny 2 that would fit the bill, so we'll see what we end up with at E3.

Btw, on a purely technical level, am I the only one who thinks FFXV looks to be pushing things graphically far more than FF7R? Apart from what seems to be cutscenes, the actual battle sequences in FF7R don't actually look all that impressive. Like others it may be technically possible, but that rumor is probably false. Nevertheless it would be interesting lol.
 

Cerium

Member
Considering the anxiety showcased in the other thread at the suggestion, FFVII:R would definitely fit the bill. But then again, there are plenty other games like RDR2 and Destiny 2 that would fit the bill, so we'll see what we end up with at E3.
Japanese UE4.
 

LordKano

Member
You'll be disappointed. Not because it couldn't be made or anything like that, but I'm pretty sure Sony has a good hand on this and won't let it go.
 
Btw, on a purely technical level, am I the only one who thinks FFXV looks to be pushing things graphically far more than FF7R? Apart from what seems to be cutscenes, the actual battle sequences in FF7R don't actually look all that impressive. Like others it may be technically possible, but that rumor is probably false. Nevertheless it would be interesting lol.
I think it would be fair to wait for more current footage for FF7R.

FFVII and MH5.
What a battle!
FFVII on Switch and MH5 on PS4. Let's do it.

Multiplat them all and let internet people fight.
 

E-phonk

Banned
But then again, there are plenty other games like RDR2 and Destiny 2 that would fit the bill, so we'll see what we end up with at E3.

There aren't that many announced japanese UE4 games that fit the bill.

I think it's possible, would like it, but if not i still have my ps4 to play it on. It's mostly interesting because of the meltdowns and the potential mediacreate threads.
 

Zedark

Member
Btw, on a purely technical level, am I the only one who thinks FFXV looks to be pushing things graphically far more than FF7R? Apart from what seems to be cutscenes, the actual battle sequences in FF7R don't actually look all that impressive. Like others it may be technically possible, but that rumor is probably false. Nevertheless it would be interesting lol.
Wouldn't know about that per se, but primarily the scalability of the engine of FFXV is a problem, as showcased by the issues XB1 has to run the game compared to PS4.

Japanese UE4.
Ah, sorry, need to learn to read!
 

Principate

Saint Titanfall
Like FFVII originally, it would be just to release a PC version one year later.

That could happen, though I'm also pretty SE knows how much money there is on the table as this is 3 part deal that could take a decade. This is not like SFV so there's a decent enough chance SE can do whatever they want with this.
 

sphinx

the piano man
If Nintendo managed to convince SE to put Final Fantasy VII R on Switch, it would be the most impressive thing they have pulled off to me since the Monster Hunter deal in 2011. I can see it happening, but it would be very, very surprising to me.

the most impressive thing they've done is having Bethesda on board with that Skyrim port.

that was an eye opener.

MH exclusive to the successor of the best selling handheld in history wasn't that unrealistic.
 

Principate

Saint Titanfall
the most impressive thing they've done is having Bethesda on board with that Skyrim port.

that was an eye opener.

MH exclusive to the successor of the best selling handheld in history wasn't that unrealistic.

It still singlehandedly killed any hardware potential the Vita had but yeah it made the most sense to Capcom.
 

sphinx

the piano man
It still singlehandedly killed any hardware potential the Vita had but yeah it made the most sense to Capcom.

no, Sony alone killed Vita, not the MH deal.

I've never seen a hardware company be so disrespectful to a fanbase like sony to Vita owners.

WiiU had 1st party exclusive games every year it was in stores. even Sega had 1st party games for their failed consoles,

with Vita, Sony said "oh fuck off everyone, go play with your phones, if 3rd parties throw you a bone be happy, whatever, we don't care" and that just a year or so after release.

they didn't deserve MH or any other major game, to be honest.
 

Principate

Saint Titanfall
no, Sony alone killed Vita, not the MH deal.

I've never seen a hardware company be so disrespectful to a fanbase like sony to Vita owners.

WiiU had 1st party exclusive games every year it was in stores. even Sega had 1st party games for their failed consoles,

with Vita, Sony said "oh fuck off everyone, go play with your phones, if 3rd parties throw you a bone be happy, whatever, we don't care" and that just a year or so after release.

they didn't deserve MH or any other major game, to be honest.

Sony's first party support has for the vast majority of their time in the industry not meant much. Their consoles live and die by their third party support. it's why people by their consoles. The fact Sony didn't support the vita isn't why the vita bombed in Japan. it's that it didn't receive a single major 3rd party game in it's lifespan outside of Minecraft. it wouldn't suddenly do PSP, but it'd certainly done better than where it is currently.
 
Btw, on a purely technical level, am I the only one who thinks FFXV looks to be pushing things graphically far more than FF7R? Apart from what seems to be cutscenes, the actual battle sequences in FF7R don't actually look all that impressive. Like others it may be technically possible, but that rumor is probably false. Nevertheless it would be interesting lol.

I agree the gameplay bits dont look anything spectacular, i could see them being able to run on switch
 

Asd202

Member
the most impressive thing they've done is having Bethesda on board with that Skyrim port.

that was an eye opener.

MH exclusive to the successor of the best selling handheld in history wasn't that unrealistic.

How is a port of a old game eye opening? In reality 3rd parties gave Switch less support than they gave WiiU in the first months.
 
How is a port of a old game eye opening? In reality 3rd parties gave Switch less support than they gave WiiU in the first months.

That's not saying anything about the Switch itself.

Without having known their respective outcomes, if you had to choose between getting an early jump on the successor to the Wii vs. the successor to the Wii U, which would you go for?
 

Asd202

Member
That's not saying anything about the Switch itself.

Without having known their respective outcomes, if you had to choose between getting a jump on the successor to the Wii vs. the successor to the Wii U, which would you go far?

But it says about Nintendo relations with 3rd parties which the post I quoted alluded too
 
How is a port of a old game eye opening? In reality 3rd parties gave Switch less support than they gave WiiU in the first months.

Bethesda being on board signals an attitude change, in that it was clear Nintendo was heavily interested in getting them on board when previously with the Wii and Wii U Nintendo rarely reached out, to western developers especially.

Obviously there is less support from the start since they're coming from the Wii U, but I do agree that Bethesda being a major supporter is somewhat eye-opening for that reason.
 
How is a port of a old game eye opening? In reality 3rd parties gave Switch less support than they gave WiiU in the first months.
Those aren't contradictory. There's less early support, so one of the early notable exceptions being a huge game from a company that hasn't had much anything to do with Nintendo is eye-opening.
 

Asd202

Member
Bethesda being on board signals an attitude change, in that it was clear Nintendo was heavily interested in getting them on board when previously with the Wii and Wii U Nintendo rarely reached out, to western developers especially.

Obviously there is less support from the start since they're coming from the Wii U, but I do agree that Bethesda being a major supporter is somewhat eye-opening for that reason.

Having a late port of years old game in not having them on board for me. There not porting Fallout, Doom or any other of their recent games like Dishonored or Pray.
 

Kyoufu

Member
Those aren't contradictory. There's less early support, so one of the early notable exceptions being a huge game from a company that hasn't had much anything to do with Nintendo is eye-opening.

I'm not seeing how a port of an old game is eye-opening, especially coming from Bethesda who are unlikely to support the system going forward. I mean, you're certainly not getting the next Elder Scrolls game on Switch.
 

ZSaberLink

Media Create Maven
no, Sony alone killed Vita, not the MH deal.

I've never seen a hardware company be so disrespectful to a fanbase like sony to Vita owners.

WiiU had 1st party exclusive games every year it was in stores. even Sega had 1st party games for their failed consoles,

with Vita, Sony said "oh fuck off everyone, go play with your phones, if 3rd parties throw you a bone be happy, whatever, we don't care" and that just a year or so after release.

they didn't deserve MH or any other major game, to be honest.

Honestly though, Sony tried to get third party support in its first year, but it seems like they primarily got Western support in terms of big titles (Assassin's Creed Liberation & Call of Duty), and then had the Vita fail in BOTH the west and Japan because of that. Considering the 3DS got Monster Hunter, the PSP's biggest sellers by far, and yet there was no major Japanese support ever announced for the console (aka something akin to Crisis Core/KH by Square Enix, MGS Peace Walker by konami, etc.) and it's not that surprising the Vita failed pretty miserably after losing MH. Even from Sony's 1st parties, what Japanese support did it really get? Tearaway and Gravity Rush? Western-wise it got an Uncharted & Killzone, which were more substantial at least.
 
I'd be more impressed if they got GTA V.

Square Enix's CEO has been speaking on a lot of Switch support to come so yeah, GTA V would be extremely impressive, while this would be a 'meh' level shock

This must be the week illusions end for some.

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|  |    to    |    to    |    to    |    to    |    to    |
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| 2|   209.623|    72.479|   126.916|    65.685|    61.998|
| 3|    96.463|    42.648|   122.843|    35.294|    49.913|
| 4|    61.394|    42.915|    69.386|    29.677|    78.441|
| 5|    50.710|    18.361|    67.083|    30.201|    45.509|
| 6|    42.979|    15.219|    20.715|    23.327|    41.193|
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|13|    17.240|    10.041|    10.021|     6.792|          |
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|17|    40.649|     8.931|    22.829|     8.395|          |
|18|    27.905|     8.250|    14.783|     7.009|          |
|19|    30.233|     8.206|     9.984|     8.059|          |
|20|    22.943|    12.299|     8.798|     7.876|          |
|21|    46.637|    10.583|     8.262|     7.150|          |
|22|    31.826|     6.340|    13.173|     6.456|          |
|23|    16.415|     6.347|     7.974|     5.581|          |
|24|     4.132|     6.675|     6.037|     5.695|          |
|25|   196.077|     7.551|     5.648|     5.470|          |
|26|   105.639|    13.383|     6.680|     6.913|          |
|27|    60.781|    34.459|     6.330|     5.923|          |
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|31|    70.159|    13.427|     8.251|     8.939|          |
|32|    58.504|    11.932|    22.199|     8.033|          |
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|34|    55.025|     9.038|    11.373|    11.697|          |
|35|    73.933|     9.446|    10.038|     8.046|          |
|36|    65.041|    11.298|     9.950|     8.942|          |
|37|   145.271|    10.880|    12.047|     8.906|          |
|38|   103.962|    50.070|     7.030|    10.078|          |
|39|    96.219|    14.106|     6.741|    15.537|          |
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I want 70K for Switch this week and the next 2 weeks. Then I would feel that things are going well.
 
Pretty much. It wouldn't surprise me at all.

The most surprising thing about that thread to me is the continuing evidence that so many people here on GAF have no idea about engines, and ports, and scalability etc. I dunno, maybe it's because I'm a PC gamer that I don't immediately go "nope, the Switch can't even run xyz!"

No one doubts the possibility of a game being scaled, its the result after scaling that leads to doubt: is this game going to be in a satisfactory state according to the devs at this lower setting, does the time taken to adapt the engine justify the new SKU.

Btw, on a purely technical level, am I the only one who thinks FFXV looks to be pushing things graphically far more than FF7R? Apart from what seems to be cutscenes, the actual battle sequences in FF7R don't actually look all that impressive. Like others it may be technically possible, but that rumor is probably false. Nevertheless it would be interesting lol.

Well we haven't seen much of FF7R, though the combat seems flashier and models look better. It won't be open world but there will be large open areas and towns iirc.
 
Square Enix's CEO has been speaking on a lot of Switch support to come so yeah, GTA V would be extremely impressive, while this would be a 'meh' level shock



I want 70K for Switch this week and the next 2 weeks. Then I would feel that things are going well.

70k might be a bit much for this week though expect there will be a a little bump (maybe 55/60) though mario kart week will probably be much higher
 

Principate

Saint Titanfall
No one doubts the possibility of a game being scaled, its the result after scaling that leads to doubt: is this game going to be in a satisfactory state according to the devs at this lower setting, does the time taken to adapt the engine justify the new SKU.



Well we haven't seen much of FF7R, though the combat seems flashier and models look better. It won't be open world but there will be large open areas and towns iirc.

The games barely been made. they'd have no problem porting it if they really cared. We're still at the point were the game could be designed to accommodate the switch rather than simply make the game on PS4 and try to port it afterwards. The question is if SE wants to do that. If SE wanted the game on switch they could have started development on it at the same time as they did on PS4 or close to it. These are all big if's. if they decided to do late in development after a change of mind then maybe they'd be a problem but even if they switched over now it shouldn't be that much of an issue.
 
Seeing how it is still selling worldwide week after week after so many years out would be a big plus for switch

Yes it would be a good move, now we just need a developer to port it. I am sure Rockstar is busy.

70k might be a bit much for this week though expect there will be a a little bump (maybe 55/60) though mario kart week will probably be much higher

I'll take 50K for this week since it is counting last week's sales

So 70K next week for this week's sales and another 70K the week after is what I would like to see for Switch sales in JP
 
Seeing how it is still selling worldwide week after week after so many years out would be a big plus for switch

Im more than sure it would sell more than big enough numbers. Full GTA on the go would be a big sell. It would def. cut into some of the sales from the other versions though, not sure how much it would add onto them.
 
No one doubts the possibility of a game being scaled, its the result after scaling that leads to doubt: is this game going to be in a satisfactory state according to the devs at this lower setting, does the time taken to adapt the engine justify the new SKU.



Well we haven't seen much of FF7R, though the combat seems flashier and models look better. It won't be open world but there will be large open areas and towns iirc.
Plenty people doubt it. You see it all the time, in that very thread even. People flat out saying "Switch can't run __________." People even said it about Final Fantasy XIII and GTAV which is another matter entirely.
 
Plenty people doubt it. You see it all the time, in that very thread even. People flat out saying "Switch can't run __________." People even said it about Final Fantasy XIII and GTAV which is another matter entirely.

Probably talking about the version shown. A Switch version will have severe graphical downgrades. No one knows exactly how that will look.
 
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