Support NeoGAF

[ZSaberLink]

SF2 did fine for what it is. 16K for rereleasing a digital game from 2008 (which itself was an enhanced port) with some new throwaway modes at that price is fairly decent. It's now the best opening for a 3rd party game on Switch post launch.

Ys did well as a late console port as well. Probably means Ys 8 was well received on Vita last year.

Also to the comment saying how people expected Horizon to outsell Zelda in Japan even though they thought Zelda would sell 300-500K makes no sense. Horizon did well by selling 200K in Japan as a new Western IP.

 

[antibolo]

Maybe you could also add 1 2 Switch to that graph.

 

[Chris1964]

Famitsu Sales: Week 22, 2017 (May 22 - May 28)

01./00. [PS4] Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana <RPG> (Nihon Falcom) {2017.05.25} (¥6.800) - 30.764 / NEW <80-100%>
02./01. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe <RCE> (Nintendo) {2017.04.28} (¥5.980) - 21.269 / 442.962 <80-100%> (-13%)
03./00. [NSW] Ultra Street Fighter II: The Final Challengers <FTG> (Capcom) {2017.05.26} (¥4.990) - 16.781 / NEW <40-60%>
04./00. [PS4] Guilty Gear Xrd: Rev 2 <FTG> (Arc System Works) {2017.05.25} (¥4.800) - 13.177 / NEW <60-80%>
05./02. [3DS] Monster Hunter Double Cross <ACT> (Capcom) {2017.03.18} (¥5.800) - 9.841 / 1.606.124 <80-100%> (-15%)
06./03. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild # <ADV> (Nintendo) {2017.03.03} (¥6.980) - 7.265 / 433.582 <80-100%> (-7%)
07./04. [3DS] Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission X <TBL> (Bandai Namco Games) {2017.04.27} (¥5.700) - 6.250 / 148.346 <80-100%> (-17%)
08./00. [PSV] Marginal 4: Road to Galaxy # <ADV> (Idea Factory) {2017.05.25} (¥6.300) - 4.011 / NEW <60-80%>
09./08. [PS4] NieR: Automata <RPG> (Square Enix) {2017.02.23} (¥7.800) - 3.526 / 296.107 <80-100%> (-7%)
10./00. [PSV] Romance of the Three Kingdoms 13 with Power-Up Kit <SLG> (Koei Tecmo) {2017.05.25} (¥8.800) - 3.280 / NEW <40-60%>
11./06. [3DS] Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia # <SLG> (Nintendo) {2017.04.20} (¥4.980) - 3.199 / 186.749 <80-100%> (-29%)
12./12. [3DS] Pokemon Sun / Moon # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2016.11.18} (¥4.980) - 3.179 / 3.762.933 <80-100%> (+15%)
13./05. [PS4] Prey <ACT> (Bethesda Softworks) {2017.05.18} (¥7.980) - 2.997 / 10.227 <60-80%> (-59%)
14./00. [PSV] Love of Renai Koutei of Love! # <ADV> (Entergram) {2017.05.25} (¥4.980) - 2.698 / NEW <80-100%>
15./11. [3DS] Pro Baseball Famista Climax <SPT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2017.04.20} (¥5.700) - 2.608 / 74.896 <80-100%> (-13%)
16./13. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 <RCE> (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} (¥4.571) - 2.543 / 2.715.357 <80-100%> (-2%)
17./10. [PS4] Dark Souls III: The Fire Fades Edition <Dark Souls III \ Dark Souls III: Ashes of Ariandel \ Dark Souls III: The Ringed City> <RPG> (From Software) {2017.04.20} (¥5.900) - 2.468 / 58.360 <80-100%> (-20%)
18./17. [3DS] Yo-Kai Watch 3: Sukiyaki <RPG> (Level 5) {2016.12.15} (¥4.800) - 2.138 / 718.140 <80-100%> (+5%)
19./15. [3DS] Mario Sports Superstars <SPT> (Nintendo) {2017.03.30} (¥4.980) - 2.088 / 88.590 <80-100%> (-10%)
20./18. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf - Welcome amiibo <ETC> (Nintendo) {2016.11.23} (¥2.700) - 2.039 / 178.977 <80-100%> (+2%)
21./16. [WIU] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild <ADV> (Nintendo) {2017.03.03} (¥6.980) - 1.898 / 110.977 <80-100%> (-17%)
22./19. [PS4] Grand Theft Auto V [New Price Edition] <ACT> (Take-Two Interactive Japan) {2015.10.08} (¥4.990) - 1.859 / 256.430 <80-100%> (-6%)
23./20. [NSW] 1-2-Switch <ETC> (Nintendo) {2017.03.03} (¥4.980) - 1.785 / 194.547 <80-100%> (-6%)
24./24. [3DS] Super Mario Maker for Nintendo 3DS <ACT> (Nintendo) {2016.12.01} (¥4.700) - 1.766 / 1.135.963 <80-100%> (+10%)
25./09. [3DS] Attack on Titan: Escape from Certain Death # <ADV> (Koei Tecmo) {2017.05.11} (¥5.800) - 1.745 / 16.330 <40-60%> (-44%)
26./22. [PS4] Minecraft: PlayStation 4 Edition <ADV> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2015.12.03} (¥2.400) - 1.744 / 211.489 <80-100%> (+7%)
27./00. [PS4] Hyper Light Drifter <RPG> (Active Gaming Media) {2017.05.25} (¥3.686) - 1.726 / NEW <20-40%>
28./25. [PSV] Minecraft: PlayStation Vita Edition # <ADV> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2015.03.19} (¥2.400) - 1.694 / 978.267 <80-100%> (+9%)
29./00. [PS4] Summer Lesson: Miyamoto Hikari Collection <Summer Lesson: Miyamoto Hikari Seven Days Room \ Summer Lesson: Miyamoto Hikari Second Feel \ Summer Lesson: Miyamoto Hikari Day Out \ Summer Lesson: Miyamoto Hikari Extra Scene - Cafe \ Summer Lesson: Miyamoto Hikari Extra Scene - Grand Fireworks> |PlayStation VR| <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2017.05.25} (¥7.600) - 1.665 / NEW <40-60%>
30./26. [WIU] Minecraft: Wii U Edition <ADV> (Microsoft Game Studios) {2016.06.23} (¥3.600) - 1.650 / 321.015 <80-100%> (+8%)

Top 30

3DS - 11
PS4 - 9
NSW - 4
PSV - 4
WIU - 2

HARDWARE

+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
|System |  This Week |  Last Week |  Last Year |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |     LTD     |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
|  NSW  |     27.440 |     27.264 |            |    886.502 |            |     886.502 |
| PS4 # |     19.747 |     17.034 |     24.201 |    785.220 |    635.473 |   4.706.836 |
| 3DS # |     13.049 |     13.374 |     13.736 |    823.805 |    594.766 |  22.735.218 |
| PSV # |      4.867 |      4.596 |     14.605 |    242.028 |    485.578 |   5.489.447 |
|  PS3  |        246 |        362 |        838 |     13.405 |     29.666 |  10.271.124 |
|  WIU  |        229 |        206 |      3.872 |     18.297 |    201.631 |   3.298.035 |
| XB1 # |        102 |         97 |         65 |      4.731 |      2.962 |      77.679 |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
|  ALL  |     65.680 |     62.933 |     57.317 |  2.773.988 |  1.950.076 |  47.464.841 |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
| XB1 S |        102 |         97 |            |      3.959 |            |       5.677 |
|PS4 Pro|      4.697 |      4.166 |            |    132.577 |            |     249.627 |
|  PS4  |     15.050 |     12.868 |     24.201 |    652.643 |    635.473 |   4.457.209 |
|  PSV  |      4.867 |      4.596 |     14.605 |    242.028 |    485.578 |   5.489.447 |
|  2DS  |      2.851 |      3.091 |            |    205.393 |            |     502.540 |
| n-3DS |     10.198 |     10.283 |     13.239 |    618.412 |    554.218 |   5.312.401 |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+

 

[Chris1964]

At some moment Sony wanted to push Summer Lesson as one of PS4 big summer titles.

 

[Busaiku]

VR is the hotness though.

 

[Skullwaker]

29./00. [PS4] Summer Lesson: Miyamoto Hikari Collection <Summer Lesson: Miyamoto Hikari Seven Days Room \ Summer Lesson: Miyamoto Hikari Second Feel \ Summer Lesson: Miyamoto Hikari Day Out \ Summer Lesson: Miyamoto Hikari Extra Scene - Cafe \ Summer Lesson: Miyamoto Hikari Extra Scene - Grand Fireworks> |PlayStation VR| <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2017.05.25} (¥7.600) - 1.665 / NEW <40-60%>

Wow, what a title.

Anyways, good to see 900k for Switch. Zelda hits the 600k milestone, should outsell TP soon. Also, I don't understand why people are disappointed by sales of Ys and USF2. They're both super late ports (USF2 especially), so they did fine for what they are.

 

[ßig]

[GBA] Super Street Fighter II Turbo: Revival <FTG> (Capcom) {2001.07.13} (¥4.800) - 14.512 / 45.335
[NSW] Ultra Street Fighter II: The Final Challengers <FTG> (Capcom) {2017.05.26} (¥4.990) - 16.781 / NEW

 

[Mr. Pointy]

Game will probably get a bump now in preparation for the Switch version.

I wonder if Capcom will release a Best Price version of the 3DS game around the same time as the Switch version. It wouldn't hurt MHXX Switch and it would get more sales out of the 3DS version.

 

[Oregano]

Is it possible Switch will beat PS4 to 6 million LTD?&#129300;

 

[Skullwaker]

[GBA] Super Street Fighter II Turbo: Revival <FTG> (Capcom) {2001.07.13} (¥4.800) - 14.512 / 45.335
[NSW] Ultra Street Fighter II: The Final Challengers <FTG> (Capcom) {2017.05.26} (¥4.990) - 16.781 / NEW

Well that gives some nice context. I wonder how USF2 will perform in the coming weeks relative to that GBA game. I wanna say around 50k LT isn't out of the question, but it could also drop off the charts next week and I wouldn't be surprised.

 

[Mpl90]

Speaking of Ultra Street Fighter II: I'll admit I had higher expectations at first, even in spite of its downfalls (content compared to the price), but, as time went by, it seems Capcom never ramped up enough their advertising efforts for it in Japan, not even near is launch. Certainly it had a presence on Capcom TV (their YT-specific show where they play different games), and it was featured on Nintendo's own "multiplayer-focused" Switch commercial, but those were not enough to not make it look like a very low-key advertising effort. I'm sure there are people here more aware of how Capcom Japan usually deal with advertising in Japan, so correct me if I'm wrong here if necessary.

EDIT: I'd still say the game had a decent first week (at least, if we think of SFV as a demonstration of the franchise's appeal decreasing as a whole), but I wonder how well / badly it's going to sell in the next future. Not counting on great legs though.

 

[Vinnk]

tell that to Disgaea 5 and I am Setsuna

Disgaea 5 Worldwide looks to outsell the PS4 version or at least come close.

I am Setsuna was sold out on Amazon, Suruga, Yamada and (at least MY) local stores before a price drop. In fact a price drop STILL hasn't happened and both titles are still selling at full retail price.

It seems that SE sold it's original shipment of the games so it is likely living up to their expectations. Tokyo RPG Factory recently announced that their next game will launch with a switch version.

They didn't set the world on fire but by what metric are these games failures. I am guessing in each case the publishers do not regret the effort of making a Switch version.

 

[Ōkami]

Switch gets away from Wii U just as it gets outdone by the PSP, though both are getting near the 3DS.

PS2 and Wii are neck and neck while the DS starts to fall behind the GBA.

 

[Vinnk]

Switch gets away from Wii U just as it gets outdone by the PSP, though both are getting near the 3DS.

PS2 and Wii are neck and neck while the DS starts to fall behind the GBA.

I love this.

Do you have anything at 20 weeks (or a couple more than that)?

I want to see where other systems were at when Switch hits it's Splatoon 2 weeks. If that makes any sense.

 

[Nyoro SF]

I have to admit that Ys VIII did better than I expected. I think the difference must have been timing (placing it where there are not other titles or announcements sucking out energy from the release) and properly advertising the extra content and improvements.

 

[Passose]

Disgaea 5 Worldwide looks to outsell the PS4 version or at least come close.

I am Setsuna was sold out on Amazon, Suruga, Yamada and (at least MY) local stores before a price drop. In fact a price drop STILL hasn't happened and both titles are still selling at full retail price.

It seems that SE sold it's original shipment of the games so it is likely living up to their expectations. Tokyo RPG Factory recently announced that their next game will launch with a switch version.

They didn't set the world on fire but by what metric are these games failures. I am guessing in each case the publishers do not regret the effort of making a Switch version.

I was talking about Japan, but fair enough

 

[Vinnk]

I was talking about Japan, but fair enough

Even for Japan, we don't have enough information to call Disgaea 5 a total failure. It never hit "bomba bins" and is still at full price. We won't know until the yearly Famitsu numbers come out if it has still been selling below the top 50 but since retailers haven't done anything drastic to clear inventory, my guess is it still moves a few units to new Switch buyers.

Again it is not a massive hit but unless I missed a comment from NIS about grandiose expectations, it probably made money for the company. They spent nothing on advertising it. And the effort paid off with WW sales.

Has Falcom ever made anything on Nintendo hardware.

I'm probably missing some but:

NES / Famicom:
Legacy of the Wizard (Published by Borderbund)
Faxanadu (Famicom Xanadu)
Ys I Ys II, Ys III (All ported by Victor)

Game Boy:
Dragon Slayer I

SNES / Super Famicom:
Dragon Slayer: Eiyuu Densetsu
Dragon Slayer: Eiyuu Densetsu II
Popful Mail
Brandish
Brandish 2
Ys IV
Ys V: Ushinawareta Suna no Miyako Kefin
Ys V Expert
BS Dragon Slayer Eiyuu Densetsu (Satellaview)

Nintendo DS:
Those Ys remakes (don't remember how many there were or who ported them, Atlus?)

3DS:
Gurumin 3D: A Monstrous Adventure

And they had Ys I+II on the virtual console (Turbo CD port by Hudson)
Also Dragon Slayer: Eiyuu Densetsu (PC Engine) but only in Japan
Sorcerian Only in Japan

 

[BladeoftheImmortal]

27K is not good for a first week.

Don't forget it's a rerelease from the Vita a year later. If I recall correctly, Ys 8 on Vita had its best 1st week if the series. Please someone correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[casiopao]

I was talking about Japan, but fair enough

So, now we are back to Disgaea being failure so it means third party is dead for Switch lol.^^

 

[Hero of Legend]

Even for Japan, we don't have enough information to call Disgaea 5 a total failure. It never hit "bomba bins" and is still at full price.

How quick did it hit bomba bins on PS4?

 

[Ōkami]

Best selling games of the year so far, retail only (Jan 2 - May 28)

01. [3DS] Monster Hunter XX - 1.606.124
02. [SWI] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe - 442.962
03. [SWI] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild - 433.582
04. [3DS] Pokémon Sun / Moon - 378.898
05. [PS4] Resident Evil 7: biohazard - 307.170
06. [PS4] NieR: Automata - 296.107
07. [3DS] Super Mario Maker for Nintendo 3DS - 278.717
08. [SWI] 1 2 Switch - 194.547
09. [PS4] Horizon: Zero Dawn - 193.000*
10. [3DS] Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia - 186.749
11. [PS4] Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Wildlands - 180.502*
12. [PS4] Kingdom Hearts HD II.8 Final Chapter Prologue - 176.581*
13. [3DS] Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker 3 - Professional - 171.528*
14. [PS4] Nioh - 152.898*
15. [3DS] Yo-Kai Watch 3: Sukiyaki - 149.372
16. [3DS] Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission X - 148.346
17. [3DS] Momotaro Dentetsu 2017: Tachiagare Nippon!! - 133.491*
18. [3DS] Poochy & Yoshi's Woolly World - 120.201*
19. [PS4] Super Robot Wars V - 117.874*
20. [PS4] Kingdom Hearts HD I.5 + II.5 ReMIX - 111.368

*data not up to date

Retail + digital the difference between Mario Kart and Zelda is of 7k, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe becomes the best selling game on Switch next week.

 

[Passose]

So, now we are back to Disgaea being failure so it means third party is dead for Switch lol.^^

Even for Japan, we don't have enough information to call Disgaea 5 a total failure. It never hit "bomba bins" and is still at full price. We won't know until the yearly Famitsu numbers come out if it has still been selling below the top 50 but since retailers haven't done anything drastic to clear inventory, my guess is it still moves a few units to new Switch buyers.

Again it is not a massive hit but unless I missed a comment from NIS about grandiose expectations, it probably made money for the company. They spent nothing on advertising it. And the effort paid off with WW sales.

That's not what I meant to say, I didn't say that Disgaea 5 being a total failure or third parties should abandon the console because their games didn't sell enough in Japan. I just want to say not every game being released in the early months of a console life is meant to sell well, Bomberman just happened to be an exclusive that hit the nistolga of most of switch buyers

 

[Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule]

I love this.

Do you have anything at 20 weeks (or a couple more than that)?

I want to see where other systems were at when Switch hits it's Splatoon 2 weeks. If that makes any sense.

First 20 weeks launhc aligned (Media Create)

 

[Ōkami]

Out June 29th, 5900 yen, apparently PS4 only.

Original release sold 450k, 400k on PS4.

 

[Vinnk]

How quick did it hit bomba bins on PS4?

It had discounts about 2 months in but never deep enough to hit the "bomba bin" (where games are like half or more off).

And it got a Best Price release as well on the PS4. So it could hit the more price conscious shoppers.

That's not what I meant to say, I didn't say that Disgaea 5 being a total failure or third parties should abandon the console because their games didn't sell enough in Japan. I just want to say not every game being released in the early months of a console life is meant to sell well, Bomberman just happened to be an exclusive that hit the nistolga of most of switch buyers

Well I can totally agree with that statement.

 

[ArchedThunder]

It's a shame how stock issues are holding Switch back. Hopefully they have a good stream of consoles by Splatoon 2, if not ARMS.

 

[casiopao]

That's not what I meant to say, I didn't say that Disgaea 5 being a total failure or third parties should abandon the console because their games didn't sell enough in Japan. I just want to say not every game being released in the early months of a console life is meant to sell well, Bomberman just happened to be an exclusive that hit the nistolga of most of switch buyers

Ahh i see what u are saying there.^^ On that point, i 100% agree.^^

 

[Lord_Byron28]

It's a shame how stock issues are holding Switch back. Hopefully they have a good stream of consoles by Splatoon 2, if not ARMS.

I expect a major stock refill with Arms in addition to a higher baseline of switches being shipped. I could see them do this in hopes that they pick up arms along with it. In addition to that they will be running off hype from E3 and one month before Splatoon 2 hype.

 

[Passose]

I think there will be a massive restock around Arms release, combined with the marketing Nintendo has been doing with the game, they want people who buy the console will buy arms with it also

 

[Zedark]

Maybe you could also add 1 2 Switch to that graph.

Here you go:

I think there will be a massive restock around Arms release, combined with the marketing Nintendo has been doing with the game, they want people who buy the console will buy arms with it also

What number do you expect? 75k like MK8D got, or even higher (and with that the start of the increased weekly shipments)?

 

[AniHawk]

Switch gets away from Wii U just as it gets outdone by the PSP, though both are getting near the 3DS.

PS2 and Wii are neck and neck while the DS starts to fall behind the GBA.

thanks for this.

aside from wii and gba, the switch is nearing the 20m+ club.

 

[Blablurn]

Very happy for Nier

 

[casiopao]

Another 75k for ARMS launch is the most i can see it happen as if they put out too much during ARMS moment, when Splatoon 2 come out, they are going to scramble to find any machine left lol.

 

[sinonobu]

Not sure if it's discussed here but the rumored new Sony handheld device has been finally revealed!

It's called Toio!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6j2cLEwRsY

 

[casiopao]

Not sure if it's discussed here but the rumored new Sony handheld device has been finally revealed!

It's called Toio!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6j2cLEwRsY

They should call it Vita 2.^^

 

[Vinnk]

I expect a major stock refill with Arms in addition to a higher baseline of switches being shipped. I could see them do this in hopes that they pick up arms along with it. In addition to that they will be running off hype from E3 and one month before Splatoon 2 hype.

I also hope this happens. I loved the ARMS Testpunch and I hope this becomes Nintendo's new successful IP.

But so far I see nothing to indicate there will be more stock for the ARMS release.

Everything here is Splatoon 2, Splatoon 2, Splatoon 2, Splatoon 2, Splatoon 2!

I don't think ARMS will bomb but I feel it will be heavily overshadowed by Splatton 2 even though it is coming out first.

I am guessing it will sell a lot of units to Japanese Switch owners who played the testpunch, but I just don't see the big mainstream hype. Kids are not talking about ARMS. Well... my kids are, but in general it's just not there yet. If there are ARMS TV ads, I have not seen one yet. I don't think anyone is buying a Switch for ARMS specifically (though I think a lot of people buying a Switch will pick it up in addition to the killer app they are buying the system for).

There are no ARMS bundles. And the Switch units in the Splatoon 2 and MHXX bundles has to come from somewhere so I don't see Nintendo getting 75k, 100k (or whatever people are predicting) into the channel on ARMS launch.

I hope I'm wrong. But I would not be shocked if there isn't a massive bump in supply that week.

There will be a guaranteed increase in supply Splatoon 2 week (bundles). But other than that I don't think Nintendo is "holding back" any units for ARMS. It would make no sense to to do. They can already sell every one they make and Mario Kart 8DX sales are currently being kneecapped by shortages.

Not sure if it's discussed here but the rumored new Sony handheld device has been finally revealed!

It's called Toio!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6j2cLEwRsY

Watch Nihon Falcom support this before the Switch.

 

[extralite]

Not sure if it's discussed here but the rumored new Sony handheld device has been finally revealed!

It's called Toio!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6j2cLEwRsY

That's actually pretty cool. It's like Minecraft x Amiibo. Amiibo are physical representations of video game characters. But the Amiibo don't move.

With Toio, you can be creative (like in Minecraft) and make your own video game characters in physical reality and you can also move them around with a controller, like you would in a game.

 

[saichi]

Is it possible Switch will beat PS4 to 6 million LTD?&#129300;

gonna be close. it also depends on the number of units Nintendo can ship.

Just like how we estimated when PS4 would pass WiiIU then suddenly everything is out of the window because there is no more shipment of Wii U.

 

[Passose]

Not sure if it's discussed here but the rumored new Sony handheld device has been finally revealed!

It's called Toio!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6j2cLEwRsY

Can't wait to play Monster Hunter 5 on it
edit:those kids look pretty happy, that thing will be the best place for Mh5 for sure

 

[Graphics Horse]

Is it possible Switch will beat PS4 to 6 million LTD?&#129300;

Not sure but I think it has a shot against Vita

 

[Passose]

Not sure but I think it has a shot against Vita

doesn't the vita still have better sales numbers than the ps4?

 

[wrowa]

doesn't the vita still have better sales numbers than the ps4?

Vita's LTD is higher, but it's selling much less on a weekly basis. It's only a matter of time until PS4 surpasses it.

 

[CaviarMeths]

So are supply constraints the only thing holding the Switch back from passing 3DS launch aligned right now?

Not sure if it's discussed here but the rumored new Sony handheld device has been finally revealed!

It's called Toio!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6j2cLEwRsY

That's actually pretty neat. Would have loved this as a kid.

Lol forever if that's actually what the rumour was about though.

 

[Graphics Horse]

Not sure if it's discussed here but the rumored new Sony handheld device has been finally revealed!

It's called Toio!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6j2cLEwRsY

This is neat
Another vid here:
https://youtu.be/SphUHrlj1Tk

 

[Datschge]

So are supply constraints the only thing holding the Switch back from passing 3DS launch aligned right now?

Possibly. It being constantly supply constrained means we will never know the actual extend of demand that's there.

 

[Fiendcode]

I'm probably missing some but:

NES / Famicom:
Legacy of the Wizard (Published by Borderbund)
Faxanadu (Famicom Xanadu)
Ys I Ys II, Ys III (All ported by Victor)

Game Boy:
Dragon Slayer I

SNES / Super Famicom:
Dragon Slayer: Eiyuu Densetsu
Dragon Slayer: Eiyuu Densetsu II
Popful Mail
Brandish
Brandish 2
Ys IV
Ys V: Ushinawareta Suna no Miyako Kefin
Ys V Expert
BS Dragon Slayer Eiyuu Densetsu (Satellaview)

Nintendo DS:
Those Ys remakes (don't remember how many there were or who ported them, Atlus?)

3DS:
Gurumin 3D: A Monstrous Adventure

And they had Ys I+II on the virtual console (Turbo CD port by Hudson)
Also Dragon Slayer: Eiyuu Densetsu (PC Engine) but only in Japan
Sorcerian Only in Japan

This is what I found digging through release lists.

Famicom / NES
Romancia (Tokyo Shoseki)
Dragon Slayer IV: Drasle Family (Namco) / Legacy of the Wizard (Broderbund)
Faxanadu (Hudson) / Faxanadu (Nintendo)
Asteka II: Taiyou no Shinden (Tokyo Shoseki) / Tombs & Treasures (Infocom)
Ys (Victor)
Ys II (Victor)
Ys III: Wanderers from Ys (Victor)

Super Famicom / Super NES
Ys III: Wanderers from Ys (Tonkin House) / Ys III: Wanderers from Ys (American Sammy)
Dragon Slayer: Eiyuu Densetsu (Epoch)
Lord Monarch (Epoch)
Ys IV: Mask of the Sun (Tonkin House)
Dragon Slayer: Eiyuu Densetsu II (Epoch)
Popful Mail (Nihon Falcom)
Brandish (Koei) / Brandish (Koei)
Brandish 2: The Planet Buster (Koei)
Ys V: Ushinawareta Suna no Miyako Kefin (Nihon Falcom)
Brandish 2 Expert (Koei)
Ys V Expert (Koei)
BS Dragon Slayer: Eiyuu Densetsu (Epoch) BSX

Game Boy
Dragon Slayer I (Epoch)
Dragon Slayer Gaiden (Epoch)

Nintendo DS
Ys Strategy (Marvelous) / Ys Strategy (Rising Star)
Ys I DS (Interchannel)
Ys II DS (Interchannel)
Ys I + II DS Special Box (Interchannel) / Legacy of Ys: Books I & II (Atlus)

Nintendo 3DS
Gurumin 3D (Flyhigh Works) / Gurumin 3D (Mastiff)

Wii (Virtual Console) PC Engine CD-ROM2 / TurboGrafx-CD
Ys I • II (Hudson) / Ys Book I & II (Hudson)
Dragon Slayer: Eiyuu Densetsu (Hudson)
Kaze no Densetsu Xanadu (Nihon Falcom)
Kaze no Densetsu Xanadu II (Nihon Falcom)

Wii (Virtual Console) MegaDrive
Sorcerian (Sega)
Lord Monarch (Sega)
Dragon Slayer: Eiyuu Densetsu (Sega)
Dragon Slayer: Eiyuu Densetsu II (Sega)

Wii (Virtual Console) Famicom / NES
Faxanadu (Hudson) / Faxanadu (Hudson)

 

[Man God]

Come to think about it we have very little knowledge of how Setsuna did on Switch.

 

[Deku89]

I also hope this happens. I loved the ARMS Testpunch and I hope this becomes Nintendo's new successful IP.

But so far I see nothing to indicate there will be more stock for the ARMS release.

Everything here is Splatoon 2, Splatoon 2, Splatoon 2, Splatoon 2, Splatoon 2!

I don't think ARMS will bomb but I feel it will be heavily overshadowed by Splatton 2 even though it is coming out first.

I am guessing it will sell a lot of units to Japanese Switch owners who played the testpunch, but I just don't see the big mainstream hype. Kids are not talking about ARMS. Well... my kids are, but in general it's just not there yet. If there are ARMS TV ads, I have not seen one yet. I don't think anyone is buying a Switch for ARMS specifically (though I think a lot of people buying a Switch will pick it up in addition to the killer app they are buying the system for).

There are no ARMS bundles. And the Switch units in the Splatoon 2 and MHXX bundles has to come from somewhere so I don't see Nintendo getting 75k, 100k (or whatever people are predicting) into the channel on ARMS launch.

I hope I'm wrong. But I would not be shocked if there isn't a massive bump in supply that week.

There will be a guaranteed increase in supply Splatoon 2 week (bundles). But other than that I don't think Nintendo is "holding back" any units for ARMS. It would make no sense to to do. They can already sell every one they make and Mario Kart 8DX sales are currently being kneecapped by shortages.



Watch Nihon Falcom support this before the Switch.

I think they will have a generous supply of console stock for ARMS, precisely because of Splatoon. Everybody there is looking forward to Splatoon 2 and are desperate to get the console. You generally don't get a console without games, so they'll be more inclined to get ARMS than they were before.

 

[The Horror the horror]

I hope I'm wrong but I suspect ARMS will be a game that does well and everyone enjoys but not enough there to warrant a sequel (e.g., Custom Robo)

 

[antibolo]

Not sure but I think it has a shot against Vita

The PS4 is very likely to beat Vita LTD before its end of life.