Why did square decide to release dq11 so close to splatoon 2?
regarding third parties on switch.
Switch is the successor to the WiiU, that's all that needs to be said.
the hardware itself and 1st party games will keep the business flowing and improving for a while.
I don't expect any noticeable 3rd party efforts until around 2019, Q4 2018 at the earliest. I am betting on a Square Enix exclusive at that point.
also, 3rd parties that are in good terms with nintendo are probably green-lighting projects (mostly switch versions of PS4/X1 games) just now, after seeing initial reception.
so yeah, 2017 + Switch + 3rd parties = no
Did we time-travel back to January while I was sleeping or something ?
not sure what you mean.
The "successor to Wii U or 3DS" discussion was something that was very present after the January press conference. I thought we were done with that.
We're probably not gonna see numbers, but I'd love to know what effect (if any) the mobile version of the new Layton game has on the 3DS version's sales.
It's significantly cheaper, much higher res, and is on a platform everyone carries with them all the time.
for now, it's the immediate successor to WiiU (I mean there's no other hardware that replaces the wiiu, right?)
and it will most likely also adopt the the 3DS/VITA audience as time goes by, sometime around 2018, so yeah next year we will be able to call it a successor to 3DS too.
wasn't that more or less the consensus?
Dragon Quest XI's release date was announced on April 11.Why did square decide to release dq11 so close to splatoon 2?
not sure what you mean.
EDIT: or maybe you took the post too literally?
yeah there's Skyrim, Fifa and some other stuff.
but it's scarce.
I meant, switch being treated like PS4 and X1 puttng everything in there as opposed to putting 1 out 10 games in there like a test to see how it fares.
Why did square decide to release dq11 so close to splatoon 2?
Let's them continue playing and discussing those ghosts Switch third party games ;p
Only 3 Switch games in the top 20 and they're all just Nintendo published titles. Can we even begin to argue about the "nintendo audience" not buying third party games when Nintendo is handicapping software sales themselves with the meager amount of hardware making it to market?
The Switch demand hasnt been touching third parties lately even though the consensus seems to be that third parties are trying harder with their Nintendo versions of titles. Even ARMS is feeling the effects of low supply with its numbers dropping so much each week. It really seems like third party efforts are being completely wasted thanks to the current hardware situation. And that certainly isn't encouraging hesitant publishers to jump in sooner than later.
I wish it was a suikoden collection3rd parties are getting as much out of the Switch right now as they are putting in. So far we have a bunch of quick, late ports that have actually done ok for what they are and the context of their release (Dragon Quest Heroes, Ultra Street Fighter 2, Suikoden Collection, Disgaea 5 Complete, etc.). Then you have a few smaller titles that dont post huge numbers in the first place (Lego, Spelunker, Romance of the 3 Kingdoms). Then you have one low budget, but smartly placed original title in Bomberman that has been a good success. We have nothing to go off to assume that 3rd party sales in the future are going to be affected by the Switch in any other way then not being there to take advantage of the dearth of 3rd Party physical releases on the hardware, so far.
Acting cocky when your Switch predictions were utterly wrong... Not a good look
I'd be positively shocked if DQXI 3DS version reaches 2 million. I think 1.5 million is the ceiling and there is a possibility that lifetime PS4 will outsell the 3DS version. DQXI 3DS has constantly been behind PS4 version in all retailers, 2DSXL bundles will help for the launch but 3DS sales this year will continue to decline compared to 2016.
I think that even the biggest pessimists on the board about the supply issues should expect Switch to pass 3 million in Japan it's at 1 million right now, with the biggest release and Obon coming up in the next few weeks. Even with supply issues it's going to be over 1.5 million by the end of August. There is MHXX bundles and the promise of larger supply after Splatoon 2 launch.
No doubt December is the month where stock is already allocated and I expect at the very least 1 million to be shipped in Japan for the holidays. For reference during 3DS's first Christmas 1.604.126 systems sold. Even last year you had 589K systems sold and even though the potential audience was extremely saturated with the 3DS being on the market for so long.
There is simply no way between Obon and December you have supply of less than 500K systems. There is SMO launching and a bunch of other games To me even with supply issues Switch will pass 3.4 million this year. If Nintendo can maintain a baseline between September and December of 70K that would lead to 910K.
Like I said earlier I do expect Splatoon 2 to have >80% attachment rate so if you have 3.4 million Switch sales for 2017 and Splatoon 2 maintains this insanely high attach rate it will be over 2.7 million for the year.
I never had any issue in admit that my HW Switch predictions were out of place.
I didn't expected the hw concept itself to be so welcomed by the market, honestly.
Instead it did.
Continuing mocking people concerned about third party support, or saying that this kind of situation could bring issues in the mid term, on the otehr hand is actually cocking.
Because I admit the wrong prediction.
While many others continue denying a concerning factual situation.
I wish it was a suikoden collection
It's been told to you several times that we're still early in Switch's life to make that kind of prediction. Issues in the mid term for not having third party games in its 6 first months? Come again in holiday 2018 and then we'll talk about the third party situation and the issues in the mid term.
And I've told several times how the other consoles brought as exampels didn't have many more games on the shelves, but MANY MORE already announced
and games that "should" be on Switch in 2018 have been already announced, but only for other consoles.
Let's talk again in holiday 18 when games will start to be announced, to arrive on the market in '19, when the usual number (so far it has been that way) of first party nintendo home console games will have shown how it's hard to sustain interest in an hardware without third party support
There will be several third party games released on Switch in 2018 (maybe even some of those that you say that should be on Switch but are not announced for it right now). And I'm 99% sure that 2019 will have more third party games announced and released for Switch than 2018 too. I can understand some worries when games like Code Vein or Dragon Ball Fighters Z are not announced for Switch right now but extrapolating from there "issues in the mid term" when Switch will have games from the biggest third party series (MH and DQ) is exaggerating too much. And people here have been repeating this to you (and Oregano) several times proving both of you wrong on other topics (Switch HW prediction, Disgaea 5 sales), so no, we're not the cocky ones here ;D