I actually only looked at the last week of November and December, so I missed AC.
I'm not sure which will sell more.
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Media Create Sales: Week 41, 2012 (Oct 08 - Oct 14)
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I actually only looked at the last week of November and December, so I missed AC.
I'm not sure which will sell more.
This is sad, very sad.
frankie_baby
Member
Oh sorry didn't realise you were the original guy I quoted, I'm on my phone so don't notice usernames very often
frankie_baby
Member
Haha, this is like an evil genie-type wish grant for Altus fans who wanted the SMT franchises to get the recognition they deserve and top sales charts.
Here's the complete list of companies that provide sales data to Famitsu for tracking purposes. Amazon has never been in that list. It's been assumed that they interpolate online sales, but now the talk is whether they were simply applying some sort of multiplier to PS3 sales, or really just pulling it out of their ass every time.
theman5141
Neo Member
Well, I guess it's reasonably safe to conclude that the endless barrage of exclusive, Japanese third-party titles for 3DS coupled with the increasingly large gulf in hardware performance have given Sony ample reason to be very, very concerned about the health of the Vita in Japan. The Vita floundering in its home territory is nothing new, but mustering about 6,000 in weekly sales is entering new, uncharted territory. This week's sales data - in my eyes - relegates the handheld from "barely conscious" to "deep, irreversible coma" status.
The door arguably (and ironically) remains open in the Western territories, and consequently I think it has become clear where Sony needs to divert its resources (inb4 "what resources?") if SCE as a whole still believes the platform can become [somewhat] viable at in the near future.
The delusional PR speak is especially revealing of the agenda. The Vita is now approaching its second holiday season in Japan. Sony wants people to withhold verdicts on the platform's health and sustainability until Vita's "first holiday season" has run its full course. Sony (imo) conspicuously tailors this statement for the two major regions to which it applies.
Ergo, Sony has no defined plan of attack for Japan during the holiday season. It's very possible they've simply thrown up their hands in resignation and have already condemned the Vita's performance in Japan as beyond salvageable. This isn't non-sequitur logic or handheld-bashing - it's quite reasonable given the circumstances.
The door arguably (and ironically) remains open in the Western territories, and consequently I think it has become clear where Sony needs to divert its resources (inb4 "what resources?") if SCE as a whole still believes the platform can become [somewhat] viable at in the near future.
The delusional PR speak is especially revealing of the agenda. The Vita is now approaching its second holiday season in Japan. Sony wants people to withhold verdicts on the platform's health and sustainability until Vita's "first holiday season" has run its full course. Sony (imo) conspicuously tailors this statement for the two major regions to which it applies.
Ergo, Sony has no defined plan of attack for Japan during the holiday season. It's very possible they've simply thrown up their hands in resignation and have already condemned the Vita's performance in Japan as beyond salvageable. This isn't non-sequitur logic or handheld-bashing - it's quite reasonable given the circumstances.
electroplankton
Banned
And what an approach!
I cannot still believe that Sony was willing to leave Vita in such situation during 2012 holidays.
Supermanisdead
Member
Nice for Bravely Default. Bring that shit over to NA and I'll buy 2 copies.
Vita at 6k? Lord, it's barely outselling 6 year old, dead-ass Wii. I'm still shocked at how Nintendo sweeped DQ and MH from under Sony's noses and haven't even looked back. Vita might really die.
Vita at 6k? Lord, it's barely outselling 6 year old, dead-ass Wii. I'm still shocked at how Nintendo sweeped DQ and MH from under Sony's noses and haven't even looked back. Vita might really die.
electroplankton
Banned
Are you still shocked after 6 years?
Lord_Byron28
Member
Looking at Bravely Default, its interesting that a lot of new ips and underdog franchises such as Harvest Moon, Fire Emblem, etc. are pretty succesful and either sell close to or exceed past popularity heights. Meanwhile heavyweight franchises such as KH, RE, NSMB and MGS have floundered a bit. I wonder why that is.
I honestly think that last year's action of Nintendo (secure MH + price cut) caught Sony totally off guard. Their strategy that everybody will buy a Vita for MH and therefor 3rd party will follow, imploded right infront of them and they still stare at the pieces. It really seems they simply don't know what to do.
mugurumakensei
Member
DQ is easy. It has and always will go to the best selling consoles. It never had platform allegiance (a grand total of 2/10 DQ games have been on Sony platforms)
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I think that's pretty normal for systems in their first couple of years. The installed base skews towards early adopters and hardcore fans, so the response to smaller series is overrepresented.
The 3DS being rather successful so far (but yet not as wildly successful with the broader market) explains why Harvest Moon and Fire Emblem are selling more than previous entries.
Regarding KH and RE specifically, I think the former is just losing its appeal in general, while the latter didn't necessarily have the right platform demographics when it was released.
Nightstick11
Banned
Very happy to see Bravely Default doing good!
frankie_baby
Member
We already did from famitsu once, wouldn't surprise me if we did from mc soon
Magicpaint
Member
Not bad at all for Bravely Default. Let's see what kind of legs it has.
Wonder what's in store next for Image Epoch. Things went downhill for them...
Wonder what's in store next for Image Epoch. Things went downhill for them...
metalslimer
Member
At this point Sony probably has a better shot of just keeping the PSP alive for like 3 more years. Would probably make them more money too. Ironically releasing Vita damaged PSP sales but barely brought an extra sales as a replacement because of the lack of UMD BC. I wonder how things would have went if they had kept pushing the PSP maybe with a new revision with slightly bumped specs and a touchscreen. It's not like 3DS is that much more powerful, so it's possible they could have even shared multiplats. And who knows what would happened with Monster Hunter. Maybe Charlie's fabled 3rdG would have actually come out
Really hits home the main problem: lack of compelling games. Vita hardware sales have tapered off and fallen just behind Dreamcast, but Vita software sales are a huge disaster. And its future lineup isn't look good.
electroplankton
Banned
Are we sure that the market really wants Vita, but just if it has games? Its launch line-up was pretty good and better than PSP's one, and still it felt after the launch week.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Never doubt a company with more money than sense.
Although that more money part might change in the near future :lol
I can make peace with that. <Crossing fingers and hoping for moneyhats>
djplaeskool
Member
Seeing as niche/otaku titles was what kept me playing my PSP, with a small amount of trepidation, I'm okay with this.
Sammy Samusu
Member
They had a full year to get their shit together... It's pretty baffling.
MasterSheen
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I honestly thought at least FFXHD would release this holidaywhen it was announced... How long does an HD up-port take to develop?
A good one takes some time.
Vita numbers are such a sad thing to look. Great hardware crippled by a shitty software line up.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
What did Xbox 360 software look like after 43 weeks?
Father_Brain
Banned
I was thinking more visual novels than Gust/NIS/Falcom JRPGs, but the latter category is possible as well.
LBP gave no appreciable "boost." To quote someone with knowledge of the sales, "Vita saved by Madden 13 bundle" for September's NPD sales.
Function of Vita having a pretty good opening week, especially compared to DC, and then having the bottom drop out from there.
something something smaller install base something something
Still though, when I read the sales predictions for PxZ even I thought they were a little high. Not that the sales ended up pretty badly mind you, it was around what I thought it'd be.
I wonder how willing Nintendo will be to lending Monolith for the 3rd game considering Monolith is supposedly hard at work at the new Wii U game. Maybe Iwata "coerces" Banpresto to speed up and release SRW 3DS before making EF3 with Monolith.
Father_Brain
Banned
I've been openly doubtful about its viability since before it was officially announced as NGP, and in almost every respect, it's failed to meet even my most pessimistic predictions, particularly with respect to Japanese third-party support; the absence of SE, Konami, and Capcom from the Vita portion of Sony's TGS conference speaks volumes. It's really something.
I think the Vita has a decent software lineup. I can see where the 3DS has a much better line up.
Bravely Default's debut isn't that far from Ninokuni.
[NDS] Ninokuni:Shikkoku no Madoushi (Level 5) - 177.249 / 569.443 / 31,13% 09/12/10
And it's better than
[PS3] Resonance of Fate (Sega) - 125.868 / 184.662 / 68,16% 28/01/10
[WII] The Last Story (Nintendo) - 109.704 / 157.359 / 69,72% 27/01/11
[360] Infinite Undiscovery (Square Enix) - 86.708 / 113.195 / 76,60% 11/09/08
[NDS] The World Ends with You (Square Enix) - 81.326 / 192.955 / 42,15% 27/07/07
[PS3] Valkyria Chronicles (Sega) - 77.694 / 141.589 / 54,87% 24/04/08
[360] Lost Odyssey (Microsoft Game Studios) - 60.376 / 109.517 / 55,13% 06/12/07
[NDS] Ninokuni:Shikkoku no Madoushi (Level 5) - 177.249 / 569.443 / 31,13% 09/12/10
And it's better than
[PS3] Resonance of Fate (Sega) - 125.868 / 184.662 / 68,16% 28/01/10
[WII] The Last Story (Nintendo) - 109.704 / 157.359 / 69,72% 27/01/11
[360] Infinite Undiscovery (Square Enix) - 86.708 / 113.195 / 76,60% 11/09/08
[NDS] The World Ends with You (Square Enix) - 81.326 / 192.955 / 42,15% 27/07/07
[PS3] Valkyria Chronicles (Sega) - 77.694 / 141.589 / 54,87% 24/04/08
[360] Lost Odyssey (Microsoft Game Studios) - 60.376 / 109.517 / 55,13% 06/12/07
So, those in the Dreamcast chart are the totals up to the first 43 weeks, no? Famitsu or MC? I'm asking just to have some confirmation.
i think famitsu, i don't really believe MC ever tracked the dreamcast (or at least i do not remember MC dreamcast data on garaph)
electroplankton
Banned
SatelliteOfLove
Member
Good! Now bring it hither so I can give you my monies.
That's one copy for every press release. I consider that a bargain!
Lord_Byron28
Member
While I agree with what you're saying and I agree that is likely the case with most of these titles. I still find it strange that titles such as fire emblem and harvest moon have reached heights they haven't achieved in over a decade. As well as S-E launching its most succesful new ip since KH.
Well monolith also went under some big expansions to where they're capable of developing Wii U and 3DS titles at the same time.
cj_iwakura
Member
Hell of a bomb for Tokitowa. Shame that. Ah well, Imageepoch best learn a lesson or two.
Meccanical
Member
Don't imaggeepoch games always bomb?
It's quite depressing. So much wasted potential.
SpaceDrake
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Their game in the Fate series did okay, as I recall. God damn that's a disaster for Toki though, especially since that probably was not a cheap game to make. I hope they survive long enough to actually get Fate/Extra CCC out the door, as I liked the first one.
Anyway, hell yes for Bravely Default, now to hope SE North America has enough common sense to localize the mother. I'd buy the hell out of it as it feels like my 3DS is starved for compelling content.
And that's about what I expected for Project X Zone. Those big crossovers tend to do only okay but not stellar. They're aimed squarely and only at existing fans and don't have a lot of mass appeal.
And the Vita.
Makes me even sadder given that I bought a Vita myself just the other day and I love it and there's a ton of software, out in America no less, that I want for it.