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Media Create Sales: Week 41, 2012 (Oct 08 - Oct 14)
- Thread starter Chris1964
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It's the highest LTD available from Famitsu weekly top 30, yearly top 100 etc. until Sep, 1999. It's not necessarily the exact LTD of these games by September 1999 (it may have been higher, or lower even if Famitsu adjusted). Same thing for the Vita, until this week.
MC tracked Dreamcast. MC started in 1994 (or 1992 if their English page is to be believed...).
Father_Brain
Banned
Their "strategy" for Japan consists of conceding any hope of decent sales for the holidays and praying that GE2 and Soul Sacrifice result in a miracle early next year.
Pretty similar to their Western "strategy," except that the "big" and hopefully miracle-causing titles (Declassified/Liberation) actually are coming out this year. But if either of those miracles fails to occur, all indications are that they have nothing.
Never seen those figures of MC. Are they in some page?
wow, Ninokuni sold much better than I'd thought
Sammy Samusu
Member
It has a bad reputation though.
You are probably thinking about the PS3 game.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
You mean the DS version then yes. Only thing that game really had going for it was the book. The PS3 version was FANTASTIC and really deserved more coverage / marketing than it got.
Imageepoch (First week / LTD form Famitsu):
[NDS] Luminous Arc (Marvelous Entertainment) {2007-02-08} - 31k / 63k
[NDS] Luminous Arc 2: Will (Marvelous Entertainment) {2008-05-15} - 35k / 61k
[NDS] Sands of Destruction (SEGA) {2008-09-25} - 59k / 93k
[NDS] 7th Dragon (SEGA) {2009-03-05} - 82k / 138k
[WII] Arc Rise Fantasia (Marvelous Entertainment) {2009-06-04} - 28k / 45k
[NDS] Luminous Arc 3: Eyes (Marvelous Entertainment) {2009-12-10} - 22k / 39k
[PSP] Last Ranker (Capcom) {2010-07-15} - 77k / 129k
[PSP] Fate/Extra (Marvelous Entertainment) {2010-07-22} - 67k / 102k
[PSP] Criminal Girls (Nippon Ichi Software) {2010-11-18} - 20k / 37k
[PSP] Final Promise Story (Imageepoch) {2011-04-28} - 57k / 91k
[PSP] Black Rock Shooter: The Game (Imageepoch) {2011-08-25} - 109k / 136k
[PSP] 7th Dragon 2020 (SEGA) {2011-11-23} - 114k / 154k
[PSP] Sol Trigger (Imageepoch) {2012-10-04} - 39k / 48k
[PS3] Tokitowa (Bandai Namco) {2012-10-11} - 28k / 28k
Not that I know of. There isn't much MC data from the 90's available today.
[NDS] Luminous Arc (Marvelous Entertainment) {2007-02-08} - 31k / 63k
[NDS] Luminous Arc 2: Will (Marvelous Entertainment) {2008-05-15} - 35k / 61k
[NDS] Sands of Destruction (SEGA) {2008-09-25} - 59k / 93k
[NDS] 7th Dragon (SEGA) {2009-03-05} - 82k / 138k
[WII] Arc Rise Fantasia (Marvelous Entertainment) {2009-06-04} - 28k / 45k
[NDS] Luminous Arc 3: Eyes (Marvelous Entertainment) {2009-12-10} - 22k / 39k
[PSP] Last Ranker (Capcom) {2010-07-15} - 77k / 129k
[PSP] Fate/Extra (Marvelous Entertainment) {2010-07-22} - 67k / 102k
[PSP] Criminal Girls (Nippon Ichi Software) {2010-11-18} - 20k / 37k
[PSP] Final Promise Story (Imageepoch) {2011-04-28} - 57k / 91k
[PSP] Black Rock Shooter: The Game (Imageepoch) {2011-08-25} - 109k / 136k
[PSP] 7th Dragon 2020 (SEGA) {2011-11-23} - 114k / 154k
[PSP] Sol Trigger (Imageepoch) {2012-10-04} - 39k / 48k
[PS3] Tokitowa (Bandai Namco) {2012-10-11} - 28k / 28k
Not that I know of. There isn't much MC data from the 90's available today.
If it weren't for Valkyria, this would be a fantastic list of games that didn't get sequels. *trollface.gif*
Remove Infinite Undiscovery and we are cool.
metalslimer
Member
TWEWY did much worse than I thought....
I would say that core focused new IPs have performed pretty awfully in modern Japan.
I mean, we're talking up how great a 140K debut it for a new IP, but it is ultimately still a 140K debut.
funny; I was actually thinking the opposite. It's often used as a posterchild for fresh new innovative IPs that didn't sell; but close to 200k doesn't seem that bad for a DS RPG
Off the top of my head, Dragon's Dogma has to be the biggest success in a while right?
Yeah, and before that, I would say Inazuma Eleven, though we could argue that's more of a kids game than a traditional core game (which would probably be mid teens to early 20's in Japan?).
I would say it's more the contrast of being the 11th best rated DS game of all time while being the 158th best selling DS game in Japan behind EA's Sim City DS, which was in fact published by EA in the region.
Inazuma Eleven debuted very low though, had good legs but didn't get really big until the sequel. It's obviously still a successful new IP, but the circumstances are quite different from something like Dragons Dogma.
So? Xenoblade is rated even higher and sold less
So? Xenoblade is rated even higher and sold less
That game makes another excellent poster child!
Wasn't that heavily influenced by the bomba bins?
Either way, Inazuma Eleven was more impressive; from 40k to 400k
nope, I thought the DS version also bombed as much as the PS3 one
Right. Going into its release Ni No Kuni DS was getting heavily promoted by Level-5, and was also coming off a number of successes like the first Inazuma Eleven. That's why it got a really big initial shipment but ended up having terrible sell-through until the price was slashed.
It looks better now only because Level-5's recent record has been so bad, with a few notable exceptions. (like Little Battlers on the 3DS)
That's because not everyone has the chance of shipping 600k copies of their RPG in the first week.
Same situation as XIII-2 -- will be selling its first week copies forever.
Monster Hunter 3G Best Price! retail
11/15
3800 yen
Download version via the eShop (available 12/6) will be 3400 yen.
http://www.inside-games.jp/article/2012/10/18/60636.html
DCharlie
And even i am moderately surprised
a massive one
MH3G had moved to bargain buckets a few months ago, 1980 yen - 2480 yen for NEW copies as the -tail- of supply seemed to being run down with 1680 yen not being unusual for second hand copies?
Now? lol - IF you can find a copy? 4980 yen... and the price is going to go up and up and up until the budget release hits.
p.s. the BEST PRICE covers have a huge "LOOK AT MY GENETIAL WARTS!" effect.
MasterSheen
Member
Meh.
Is Bravely Default likely to have legs once word of mouth gets around about the new series? (Assuming it's a quality game of course)
Also those Vita sales....Quite disheartening.
Edit : Question which has probably been askes a million times, but what's the reason that we don't have a service like Media Create in America? I understand we have the NPD which is vague, I'm guessing due to them selling the results. But why can't we have something nice like MC for us over here?
Anyone?
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
In Japan never fails with atlus titles to drive it up the originals to insane prices.
I think the problem with the PS3 one was the fact the DS one harmed the image of the game and on top of that there just was not enough marketing done for the game period. Real damned shame. The smart move would have been holding off on the DS and releasing it the same time as the PS3 version. By far that would have been the safest route of action. Could have gotten folks buying both, just to have the book while playing the PS3 version.
The bolded part is pretty awesome. Cheaper than retail!
(it's sad to be impressed by this, but that's understandable given the current situation of downloadable versions of retail games on eShop - and other services, too)
pulga
Banned
Sony really lacked long term foresight on this. Coming off the relative success of the PSP (when compared to other handhelds that've gone against Nintendo), they really really should've had some viable strategy to fend off the age of smartphone + usual Nintendo domination. As it stands, I really don't see how they can turn things around. They don't have a handheld blockbuster as Nintendo do. Shit, Nintendo's got like 5 of them.
Very interesting... I could see this doing exceedingly well on the eShop. Not unlike Animal Crossing. I hope Nintendo sticks to their boast from several months ago and continues to share digital sales data publicly.
Sammy Samusu
Member
That boxart, ew.
And good to know about the eShop release, if MH3G fails to move 2M, I can always pimp some delusional eShop numbers.
And good to know about the eShop release, if MH3G fails to move 2M, I can always pimp some delusional eShop numbers.
StreetsAhead
Member
I have a feeling they'll talk about them in terms of percentages of overall sales as part of their quarterly releases.
Lack of competition. There's no incentive to give out numbers for free when you can make people pay for them instead because you're the only major sales tracker. Whereas in Japan there's a marketing benefit to giving out numbers.
xxbrothawizxx63
Member
I really hope that Nintendo will soon roll out an account system for the 3DS now that they're releasing so many games on the eshop.
Would be nice if they allowed you to switch eshop regions as well and play those downloaded games.....
Would be nice if they allowed you to switch eshop regions as well and play those downloaded games.....
SatelliteOfLove
Member
And look at the best selling games on that list....
Nintendo was smart enough to staunch the GBA's success when the DS arrived.
Allan Holdsworth
Member
So Tokitowa was their first foray into PS3 and it bombed harder than Arc Rise Fantasia. Feels bad man.
chertipros
Member
Wasn't tokitawa hyped as the game that was supposed to "Save the RPG genre" or something like that?
bigtroyjon
Member
Despite the roaring success of the 3DS, handheld market really isn't up that much over last year, less than 10%. Hardware revenue is likely up much higher than units though
Will start doing this every week again, think it's going to be really interesting to see how things shape up not only in the last 10 weeks, but the first couple months of next year.(will just add 2013 into this data, giving us three years to look at.)
PSP(2011 YTD)= 1,582,719
PSP+PSV(2012)=1,206,361(-23.8%)
Looking ahead to Week 42, PSP did 22,095 in 2011.
3DS+DS(2011 YTD)=2,671,762
3DS+DS(2012 YTD)=3,467,870(+29.8%)
Looking ahead to week 42, 3DS+DS did 77,267 in 2011.
All handhelds(2011 YTD)=4,254,481
All handhelds(2012 YTD)=4,674,231 (+9.9%)
Will start doing this every week again, think it's going to be really interesting to see how things shape up not only in the last 10 weeks, but the first couple months of next year.(will just add 2013 into this data, giving us three years to look at.)
PSP(2011 YTD)= 1,582,719
PSP+PSV(2012)=1,206,361(-23.8%)
Looking ahead to Week 42, PSP did 22,095 in 2011.
3DS+DS(2011 YTD)=2,671,762
3DS+DS(2012 YTD)=3,467,870(+29.8%)
Looking ahead to week 42, 3DS+DS did 77,267 in 2011.
All handhelds(2011 YTD)=4,254,481
All handhelds(2012 YTD)=4,674,231 (+9.9%)
You think the 3DS will do better in December then it did last year?
MasterSheen
Member
Probably because this time last year 3DS started ramping up and Vita still isn't helping make up for PSP's decline.