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Don't think so. When you cut someone in two, the guy fall in 2 pieces. I clearly remember early footage of this title when enemies and object behave just like that.
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Don't think so. When you cut someone in two, the guy fall in 2 pieces. I clearly remember early footage of this title when enemies and object behave just like that.
InfiniteNine
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Bill Rizer
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Muchi Muchi Pink
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Exactly.
Seraphinianus
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-Amon-
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Well you see the guy cut in two in one scene, while with other enemies you see the usual stuff, you hit them, hit animation starts, enemy still in one piece.
Do not like really, should be one slash, one cut every time.
MGS fans are a crazy bunch of people. Carnival of stupid and all.
Now I get what you mean. They had to change that since they realized that you basically can't integrate interesting gameplay into a game where you can kill everything with on strike.
I'm sure we'll see this E3 how the final cutting mechanic will work.
Muchi Muchi Pink
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They need Kaiser Taura from PG on stage.
base shagohod
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-Amon-
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Can't really understand what's the reasoning behind this. I'm still waiting for a new Bushido blade. That's what should happen with blades.
I'm sure this is what he means. Same concept, completely different execution.
Seraphinianus
Banned
ninja gaiden 2 360 seemed to capture it pretty well.
limbs and blood fucking everywhere, enemies can kill you just as quick
-Amon-
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With ninja gaiden we're near but not exactly as it should be for me.
I'm sure this is what he means. Same concept, completely different execution.
This is still in the game, but I'm guessing it has some kind of meter attached to it, it would be too broken to be able to do it all the time in this kind of game.
You can see it in action on their documentary.
Damn, those graphics were so awesome
Muchi Muchi Pink
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I'm sure this is what he means. Same concept, completely different execution.
Well, as already stated before. It's a delayed dismemberment. You can see that in many Samurai Movies or even Power Rangers. The hero slices an enemy into pieces and after he puts his sword back into the sheath, he falls apart.
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Seraphinianus
Banned
that slow slicing shit looks functionally useless.
i know you acknowledge my last post, but I really don't think you've played NG2 on the 360...it's got all that kind of slicing action and gore. Unless you want every slash to be physiologically accurate, like if the sword slash goes across, the guy has a huge vertical slice in him.
i know you acknowledge my last post, but I really don't think you've played NG2 on the 360...it's got all that kind of slicing action and gore. Unless you want every slash to be physiologically accurate, like if the sword slash goes across, the guy has a huge vertical slice in him.
-Amon-
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It looks to me instead that their approach is far less original and surely overused.
Well, since they changed the story, we can still hope for the original game to come out some day.
Or not.
-Amon-
Member
Probably because you have to go slomo to give the user the time to decide the direction of the cut.
but i was not talking about that. My gripe not only with this game but with the vast majority of games with blades is the effect of the hit on the target.
You see the target as if was hit by a punch, not cut with a blade.
This particular game, considering what we saw about it in the past, looked as if it could be the one with a realistic reaction to cuts.
Backfoggen
Banned
Dat 60 fps drawbacks.
Seraphinianus
Banned
Looks like you're slicing with your analog sticks to me.
The thing is even in MGS4 Raiden was a pretty sad broken person he just did cool looking things.
-Amon-
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Did you play Max Payne ? If yes, imagine that mechanic implemented as bullet time, used to evade enemy attacks ( parry projectiles and deflect blade strikes with your blade ) and cut enemy down.
FlashbladeGAF
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So they don't want a cool character, but a badass, because I can't see how being sad makes him not cool, if anything, makes the character more interesting.
Seraphinianus
Banned
but there's no enemy attack happening, it's a dead dude standing there while you slice him up.
cool for a quick finisher, even better if there was still some risk/reward at work, but fuck no to that slow-mo stuff.
anotherVegan
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Cut ALL the things!
I guess I'm saying wasn't he badass in MGS2. Besides being a cyborg what made you think him more cool.
Seraphinianus
Banned
His added confidence and purpose in MGS4 made him a lot cooler. He went from being a stereotypical rookie to someone who knew exactly what they were doing and how to accomplish it. He was much more determined and I liked that. Plus, getting rid of the "do you know what day it is?" trash with Rose helped a lot. That stuff seemed to be more of why people didn't like him in 2.
Don'tBeWeird
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This made me burst out laughing.
I don't know if I would call it confidence maybe straight up being suicidal in his actions and attitude. That other stuff was more Rose's fault no?
-Amon-
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Well the way Raiden responded to Rose's bitching in MGS2 is, at least for me, the number one reason why i hated him so much in that game.
MGS4 Raiden is a total different man.
People didn't like him in 2 because he was whiny and indecisive. Nor was he a particularly nice guy to his girlfriend. Or funny. Or likeable.
It's really not specifically catering to MGS fans.
Nor did anyone expect to play with him for the entire game. It to the last moment, I was hoping that Snake would come in and be playable for an additional few levels.
It's still in, just a little different in execution.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF5C8lL5R0I&t=1m25s
Of course it is. Why have the focus on Raiden at all then?
The reason he is the main focus because of how awesome he was to watch in 4. You wanted to play those segments where he was taken down mech after mech, doing all this crazy shit onscreen. That is the reason why this game exists and I'm more than happy that it is an extension of the MGS universe.