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[Boke1879]

Two remasters Gears and Rare Replay.

They will no doubt have a great holiday but if their sales continue to taper off during the 9 other months of the year that really can't bode all too well. Especially since they aren't giving us numbers now.

 

[KillerMan91]

This is a of new record. lol.

Yeah. Sadly MS is and has been only company that can do it as Xbox is so small part of their business that people don't ask for those numbers that much if they are bad. Even during worst times of PlayStation gaming was still decent chunk of total business of Sony so they had to share some hw numbers. Also as Nintendo is gaming company only for them it's pretty obligatory no matter how bad the numbers are.

 

[Tfault]

This doesn't appear in the actual report.

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Just need to know where to look

Segment Report

 

[slavesnyder]

poor sales is kind of understandable imo, what big game releases did they have during this time period?

All big multiplat.
There are so many people on GAF that say exclusives are not important any more.

 

[RiccochetJ]

Did they release any shipped hardware numbers? Like phones or tablets?

Edit:
Ah.

Just need to know where to look

Segment Report

 

[Obliterator]

It's the Q1 of the new fiscal year and Microsoft changed somethings on the report.

The lack of Xbox One shipments is the new standard, there's nothing to do with poor sales in the last quarter.

Yeah looks like this is going to be the standard now which is a huge bummer because we are not gonna have much clue what it sells in the non tracked markets. Only way we know now is if investors demand it which isnt likely or MS themselves at a separate time announce ship number milestones

 

[Ryng_tolu]

Yeah. Sadly MS is and has been only company that can do it as Xbox is so small part of their business that people don't ask for those numbers that much if they are bad. Even during worst times of PlayStation gaming was still decent chunk of total business of Sony so they had to share some hw numbers. Also as Nintendo is gaming company only for them it's pretty obligatory no matter how bad the numbers are.

That's why i like Nintendo quarter report way more than all others company.
They ALWAYS release all numbers.

 

[Xenus]

This is a of new record. lol.

Yeah it strikes of trying to find a way to keep xbox live around while possibly moving away from the dedicated device field. aka Can we get x Million of people to pay use 40-50 dollars a year for while not having a dedicated device for it?

 

[theprodigy]

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Oh, there it is.

welp no shipment numbers, title should still be fixed though because revenue=/=units

 

[Heimbeck]

Sure they want it to. But they also want the brand out there. Better to win the war of the living room and lose money than lose the war and add a few pennies to the vault.

Xbox has never been about making money for MS. It's s goal, but not the main one.

How much do they even care about controlling the living room with the Xbox anymore?
Seems like something that would never happen with the range of devices available.
They also focus more on the Xbox as their gaming platform now, rather than an all in one box.

 

[Kill3r7]

Yeah looks like this is going to be the standard now which is a huge bummer because we are not gonna have much clue what it sells in the non tracked markets. Only way we know now is if investors demand it which isnt likely or MS themselves at a separate time announce ship number milestones

Agreed.

 

[bombshell]

Just need to know where to look

Segment Report

Thanks, had only looked at the full report, not the segment detail reports.

So Xbox hardware revenue is indeed down 17%, but no actual hardware numbers.

 

[Celine]

Nowhere. MS is taking ''hiding bad numbers'' to next level even compared to combined shipment bs started by Sony. Sadly Xbox is so small part of MS that investors don't probably care enough call them out for this bs.

They are just copying Sony like always.

*From FY2015, portable hardware unit sales is not longer available due to the change of disclosure policy.

http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/data/hardware_sale_e.html

 

[Heigic]

Title says sales but OP says revenue. There's a bit of a difference between sales and revenue...

 

[jjonez18]

I googled their financial report and this is apparently all there is for Xbox data.

Well... I'm ghost. The shipped numbers are the fun part.

That's why i like Nintendo quarter report way more than all others company.
They ALWAYS release all numbers.

Yup. Their software are always so leggy too. Curious to where where the likes of Splatoon and Mario Maker are. But that's a topic for another thread

 

[velvet_nitemare]

MS shipped 2.4 million XBOX last year.

Thanks.

Paremides (sp?) used to list all the numbers for each fiscal quarter/year in the OP. Lotta work, but great format. I'll try to see if i can find one of his old threads

 

[Obliterator]

Title says sales but OP says revenue. There's a bit of a difference between sales and revenue...

Hardware revenue is down

Gaming division revenue is up

Those are pretty much the main take aways

 

[SEGAvangelist]

They will no doubt have a great holiday but if their sales continue to taper off during the 9 other months of the year that really can't bode all too well. Especially since they aren't giving us numbers now.

This should get better, IMO. The first half of 2016 already looks way better than the beginning of 2015.

 

[driver116]

We sold no Phones,
We sold no Xbox's.

 

[Chobel]

So no more Xbox shipment numbers from MS? That's disappointing :/

I'll guess we'll just have to hope it gets mentioned in some PR from Satya Nadella or Phil Spencer.

 

[AmaterasuOni]

No shipment numbers. Can this mean MS was overstocking and they've been slowly selling the stock? How many new bundles were there?

 

[Blanquito]

Hm, sad about no shipment numbers, even combined. Bleh.

 

[Boke1879]

This should get better, IMO. The first half of 2016 already looks way better than the beginning of 2015.

This is just me kinda hoping MS spreads their first party releases out more throughout the year instead of waiting until the last few months of the year.

 

[Shenmue]

They've been doing pretty well in the US. This must mean they are selling like shit everywhere else then?

 

[Kayant]

Well at least there is still Lumia numbers -_- -

Devices revenue decreased $1.8 billion or 49%, mainly due to lower revenue from phones, driven by the shift in strategy for the phone business, as well as lower Surface revenue. Phones revenue decreased $1.5 billion or 58%, as we sold 5.8 million Lumia phones and 25.5 million other non-Lumia phones in the first quarter of fiscal year 2016, compared with 9.3 million and 42.9 million sold, respectively, in the prior year. Surface revenue decreased $236 million or 26%, primarily driven by the release of Surface Pro 3 in June 2014.

 

[Ryng_tolu]

Yup. Their software are always so leggy too. Curious to where where the likes of Splatoon and Mario Maker end up. But that's a topic for another thread

I know is OT, but since i can't resist xD i predict 1.25 million shipped+digital for Mario Maker ( the game sold 1 million retail+digital as well by 30 September 2015), and you can see here my Splatoon prediction ( all quarter since 31 December 2017 )

But, i most likely underestimated this quarter... i predict 700k, but since it sold retail+digital over 500k only in Japan and US, i believe the total shipments will be bigger than my 2.32m prediction.

Thanks.

Paremides (sp?) used to list all the numbers for each fiscal quarter/year in the OP. Lotta work, but great format. I'll try to see if i can find one of his old threads

31 Dec 2013: 7.4 million (3.9m XB1 / 3.5m 360)
31 Mar 2014: 2 million (1.2m XB1 / 800k 360)
30 Jun 2014: 1.1 million
30 Sep 2014: 2.4 million
31 Dec 2014: 6.6 million
31 Mar 2015: 1.6 million
30 Jun 2015: 1.4 million

 

[allan-bh]

Yeah looks like this is going to be the standard now which is a huge bummer because we are not gonna have much clue what it sells in the non tracked markets. Only way we know now is if investors demand it which isnt likely or MS themselves at a separate time announce ship number milestones

Phil Spencer is talking that people can play in different platforms, all are part of the same ecosystem, so this change makes sense.

Microsoft will emphasize how many people play on Xbox Live.

 

[N.Domixis]

They've been doing pretty well in the US. This must mean they are selling like shit everywhere else then?

That's obvious.

 

[AmaterasuOni]

They've been doing pretty well in the US. This must mean they are selling like shit everywhere else then?

Haven't we known this for a long time now? Xbone is pretty much dead everywhere but USA and UK.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

XBL, like doing anything online or gold users?

 

[Obliterator]

Phil Spencer is talking that people can play in different platforms, all are part of the same ecosystem, so this change makes sense.

Microsoft will emphasize how many people play on Xbox Live.

Tbh so far that is almost all talk. As of now there is still next to zero PC support and their phones are bombing.

 

[SamastahSukhino]

Honest question. Why do the nokia phones suck? I had one for about a week. It had the most amazing camera I ever had on a phone, but I returned it a week later for an iphone. Why doesn't ms partner up with andriod or apple. The windows store is a fuckin joke. They have an amazing phone and BUTCHER it by keeping it window apps only. I answered my own question. I'm gonna go throw rocks at my car, I'm pissed.

 

[Neuromancer]

That MAU increase is pretty good.

 

[3rdamention]

So no more Xbox shipment numbers from MS? That's disappointing :/

I'll guess we'll just have to hope it gets mentioned in some PR from Satya Nadella or Phil Spencer.

Nadella posted the "Nearly 10 million shipped" statement on Xbox Wire on November 12th of 2014..

http://news.xbox.com/2014/11/xbox-one-sales-on-the-rise


So there is still a chance.gif

 

[velvet_nitemare]

I know is OT, but since i can't resist xD i predict 1.25 million shipped+digital for Mario Maker ( the game sold 1 million retail+digital as well by 30 September 2015), and you can see here my Splatoon prediction ( all quarter since 31 December 2017 )

But, i most likely underestimated this quarter... i predict 700k, but since it sold retail+digital over 500k only in Japan and US, i believe the total shipments will be bigger than my 2.32m prediction.

Seriously? A Splatoon prediction chart with your name on it in a thread about MS =(lack of) numbers? Wow

 

[Lashley]

Me and my friend both bought an Xbox One last month

We'll keep you afloat, Microsoft, we'll keep you afloat

 

[Shin-Ra]

MS now report "Xbox Live Active Users" instead of shipments ...

Suggests they're repositioning Xbox primarily as a service rather than a physical platform.

 

[gundamkyoukai]

Sales age just get even more boring without MS numbers .
Well i hope we get at least get yearly numbers in the future .

 

[RamzaIsCool]

Yeah looks like this is going to be the standard now which is a huge bummer because we are not gonna have much clue what it sells in the non tracked markets. Only way we know now is if investors demand it which isnt likely or MS themselves at a separate time announce ship number milestones

And which milestones would that be? They gonna announce that they past the 20m mark when the PS4 is at 40m+? Yeah... probably isn't going to happen.

Well outside the US/ UK the thing sells like shit, so I guess we still have a pretty good idea what the WW sales are. Still sucks we don't have the shipment numbers anymore, because they were the easiest to compare between the big three.

 

[slavesnyder]

Good guy Spencer is just keeping his promise.
He stated that console wars suck.
So he stops giving out hardware numbers.
Mission accomplished.
Peace is restored.

 

[IvanJ]

XBL, like doing anything online or gold users?

Anything online: console, PC, mobile all added together.

 

[Boke1879]

Suggests they're repositioning Xbox primarily as a service rather than a physical platform.

Technically both PS4 and Xbox are positioning themselves as services.

It kinda lines up with what Spencer was talking about. Saying they don't think they can beat the PS4 but they'll make the One the best platform it can be.

 

[3rdamention]

I would have assumed with Microsoft announcing like 5 different holiday bundles, they would have huge shipping numbers to announce...


Those bundles would have to be shipped by now considering their release dates...

Weird they just omitted them..

 

[thekiddfran]

The fact the stock is up 7% shows how little the shareholders give a shit about the Xbox division

 

[Tfault]

Yeah looks like this is going to be the standard now which is a huge bummer because we are not gonna have much clue what it sells in the non tracked markets. Only way we know now is if investors demand it which isnt likely or MS themselves at a separate time announce ship number milestones

Yep, no more numbers, from MS own mouth. Live is the new matric!

The second metric that's changing is the addition of Xbox Live active users that replaces the Xbox console unit metric. Console sales will continue to be provided in other earnings materials when they are a driver of changes and revenue and operating income.

 

[slavesnyder]

The fact the stock is up 7% shows how little shareholders give a shit about the Xbox division

Are they Europeans?

 

[Boke1879]

Yep, no more numbers, from MS own mouth. Live is the new matric!

I'm pretty much taking that they won't include numbers unless it does exceptionally well.

 

[Welfare]

Welp, this sucks.

Only hardware numbers we'll probably get now is either them hitting every 10 million or end of year sales.

 

[specialK]

 

[Elios83]

Wow, so no more Xbox shipment datas? :O
I guess it's a combination of two factors:

1)Sales are poor, they have nothing positive to gain in disclosing those datas
2)Xbox as a home console is less and less important in their gaming vision which is shifting to something more global including PCs and mobile plaftorms, so Xbox is not at the core.

Number 1 is definetly not good, number two it depends if you like that new vision or not.