Business gaf
Since there is a lot of speculation as to XB being sold off which company do you think would make a bid and or be successful once XB is under there control?
They wont sell the computer and gaming hardware division. It'll just evolve.
Business gaf
Since there is a lot of speculation as to XB being sold off which company do you think would make a bid and or be successful once XB is under there control?
People also seem to hate competition over customers. I own both PS4 and X1 and enjoy they crap out of them. But since MS has fallen behind so big it seems to me that they are really fighting for me as a customer (compared to Sony). If MS really leaves the console business, I don't even wanna know what PSN would be like and how much it will cost.
No S-Klasse owner would ever be happy if BMW 7er or Audi A8 would be discontinued because lack of competition is always bad for the consumer, no matter what brand you buy.
Yet in here (few) people are rooting for the annihilation of Xbox every chance they get.
As I said, I have no idea what the outcome of a poll would be, that's sort of meant to be the point of polls, and 10 people would be a bad sample size. I think the future of Xbox is MS's entertainment brand. I think they were even trying to make a push into the motion picture/television industry with it before things went south. I think Xbox as a brand now means entertainment services on WP, Window 10, as well as any other kind of entertainment hardware whether they are thin clients or not.So you are seriously telling me that if you would ask the next 10 people you meet "What is xbox?" you wouldn't get either "console" or "don't know it"? C'mon.
But you are right, it's all beside the point. What do you think would be a viable future option for the xbox brand? Thin Client, Steam-like service?
So you are seriously telling me that if you would ask the next 10 people you meet "What is xbox?" you wouldn't get either "console" or "don't know it"? C'mon.
But you are right, it's all beside the point. What do you think would be a viable future option for the xbox brand? Thin Client, Steam-like service?
So I'm also curious about this. When is a Gafer allowed thread making privlages/ go from junior member to member? Thanks in advance.Xbox won't be sold off. As soon as I have thread privelags I'll make a thread about it. Xbox will always be ms. It'll just be sans hardware
A lot of confirmation bias and slippery slope going on there sir. You want to know the reason why everyone is giving MS shit? Because they deserve it and need their asses kicked. In the same way the market humbled Sony when they got too big for their britches with PS3, the market is doing the same to MS with Xbone and frankly, they deserve it. MS had been trying to get away with murder for years and when they tried it again with the Xbone, the market responded.
This is competition.
This is normalization.
Not the sales parity that people in here keep trying to prop up as the only answer to increasing lead between units for PS4 and Xbone. So no, people aren't cheering for the annihilation of MS. That's just a few hardcore fans. In reality, people want MS to get their heads out of their asses so that they can enjoy playing games again for the platform of their choice and not have to suffer through politics and back alley deals to do so.
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As I said, I have no idea what the outcome of a poll would be, that's sort of meant to be the point of polls, and 10 people would be a bad sample size. I think the future of Xbox is MS's entertainment brand. I think they were even trying to make a push into the motion picture/television industry with it before things went south. I think Xbox as a brand now means entertainment services on WP, Window 10, as well as any other kind of entertainment hardware whether they are thin clients or not.
So I'm also curious about this. When is a Gafer allowed thread making privlages/ go from junior member to member? Thanks in advance.
The sales aren't bad at all, it's just the PS4 is doing crazy good.
If it was 2013 and "the reveal" just happened I would totally get it. Wasn't a fan of their ideas either. But thats 2 years behind us. People got fired over it. Changes were made, new directions taken. The head did exit the ass as far as I am concerned.
As you said Sony learned a lot from the PS3 mistakes and PS4 is really nice. So it would be logical that MS will copy that process with their next system.
A lot of confirmation bias and slippery slope going on there sir. You want to know the reason why everyone is giving MS shit? Because they deserve it and need their asses kicked. In the same way the market humbled Sony when they got too big for their britches with PS3, the market is doing the same to MS with Xbone and frankly, they deserve it. MS had been trying to get away with murder for years and when they tried it again with the Xbone, the market responded.
This is competition.
This is normalization.
Not the sales parity that people in here keep trying to prop up as the only answer to increasing lead between units for PS4 and Xbone. So no, people aren't cheering for the annihilation of MS. That's just a few hardcore fans. In reality, people want MS to get their heads out of their asses so that they can enjoy playing games again for the platform of their choice and not have to suffer through politics and back alley deals to do so.
Ok so that little dude would count as "I don't know it".
You are aware that MS removed the Xbox name from the video and music services right?
see above.
Changes were made, however like that old adage goes, "You only have one shot at a great first impression." Granted, MS as reversed numerous policies under Mattrick and Spencer is trying his best, MS is still doing MS type things (Rise of the Tomb Raider deal) that has consumers in a tizzy. You also have to think, if MS was as good as you think they doing now, logic would say that they would be neck and neck with PS4 especially after the insane holidays season they had, but they aren't. Why would that be? When you can answer that, then you'll understand why it seems as if everyone is picking on MS (even when they aren't).
They wont sell the computer and gaming hardware division. It'll just evolve.
They haven't removed it at all.
http://www.xbox.com/en-GB/Music
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.microsoft.xboxmusic
Is there a rumor that they will remove it in the future? What is the new name even?
Microsoft appears to be moving away from its Xbox Music and Xbox Video branding. Two new Music and Video apps for Windows 10 have debuted today, and they both drop the Xbox brand in favor of simplified names.
Actually it really isn't selling well. It lost significant grounds in many markets. It is down year on year or at best flatlined despite price promotions that led to a 26% decrease in revenue. Sure PS4 is doing exceptionally well but these are just bad numbers for xbone even looking at it in isolation.shut up! get the fuck out with your logic
Well the person who was in charge of their gaming studios, the one that led the trend to the homogenization of their game output, is in charge now. in fact he was an important exec and no doubt played a part in creating the strategy for the original Xbone. Further he oversaw the launch of the console in China with the same kind of restrictions and focus as it was originally planned for the worldwide launch.If it was 2013 and "the reveal" just happened I would totally get it. Wasn't a fan of their ideas either. But thats 2 years behind us. People got fired over it. Changes were made, new directions taken. The head did exit the ass as far as I am concerned.
As you said Sony learned a lot from the PS3 mistakes and PS4 is really nice. So it would be logical that MS will copy that process with their next system.
They haven't removed it at all.
http://www.xbox.com/en-GB/Music
Is there a rumor that they will remove it in the future? What is the new name even?
this again.... :\
yes, PS4 sales are insane.
no, xbone sales are troubled. flat or down YoY in its second year is troubling. Underperforming to 360 at the same point in its life is troubling. The ONLY reason xbone isn't underperforming LTD is:
huge launch following an 8 year console cycle (thirst was real)
huge discounting during it's second holiday season ($150 off cash, up to $250 off including incentives)
360 greatly supply constrained during its launch and for its first 4-6 months
the first point was a one off bump, the second point isn't sustainable, and the third point just shows how troubling the numbers really are.
Wii U bad? No. But at this point pretty much smack between PS4 and Wii U.
I actually agree with many others.. I see MS leaving the hardware space BUT continuing the XBONE platform.. likely on PC/Surface or such. I would be shocked if there were another xbox console, but at the same time also don't think that's a bad thing. The PC is already supporting multiple ecosystems (Steam, Origin, etc). One more hardly seems unrealistic and will give MS a chance to focus on what works about XBONE (parts of the software/platform) and ditch the part they've struggled with for 3 gens now (hardware profitability, and outside of last gen, hardware sales)
A lot of confirmation bias and slippery slope going on there sir. You want to know the reason why everyone is giving MS shit? Because they deserve it and need their asses kicked. In the same way the market humbled Sony when they got too big for their britches with PS3, the market is doing the same to MS with Xbone and frankly, they deserve it. MS had been trying to get away with murder for years and when they tried it again with the Xbone, the market responded.
This is competition.
This is normalization.
Not the sales parity that people in here keep trying to prop up as the only answer to increasing lead between units for PS4 and Xbone. So no, people aren't cheering for the annihilation of MS. That's just a few hardcore fans. In reality, people want MS to get their heads out of their asses so that they can enjoy playing games again for the platform of their choice and not have to suffer through politics and back alley deals to do so.
Well that's an interesting development that they removed all mentions of Xbox from the windows apps, it makes sense for the preinstalled apps to drop the branding completely but I wonder what they are going to do with the service. They provide it on android, iOS, and the web too. They can't just call it Music app and Video app. They need some kind of branding.
Well that's an interesting development that they removed all mentions of Xbox from the windows apps, it makes sense for the preinstalled apps to drop the branding completely but I wonder what they are going to do with the service. They provide it on android, iOS, and the web too. They can't just call it Music app and Video app. They need some kind of branding.
Because it is doing so terribul, rite?
It's doing better than the x360...
I only have an xbone btw. No it's not doing terrible, but it is nowhere doing what the successor to the 360 should be doing and they know it. Coupled with the power gap when compared to the ps4, they will not drag this gen out.
Probably Windows Music / Video (I guess ...). I think ppl were confused when they saw Xbox Music. It kinda implies that you need a Xbox or XBL to use it. A friend of mine got a surface and didn't even know he could access all the xbox apps, since he has a PS4.
As I said Xbox really is associated with "video game system" to the the vast majority of people.
So is that means over a million for Xbox shipped right? That's not too good compared to sony's over 1 million sold through.
It's doing better than 360 which was MS first success story
Q4 was fueled by great pricing and bundles... and it worked...for a few months.
What will they do this holiday season?
Something besides Halo and ForzaHalo, TR, Forza. Probably more bundles and price cuts. What more would they need to do?
Wouldn't "Windows Music" then imply that they need Windows instead?
this again.... :
yes, PS4 sales are insane.
no, xbone sales are troubled. flat or down YoY in its second year is troubling.
I'm sure we all had this panicking around the PS3/360 when the Wii was going bonkers. MS are following a higher trend than the 360, and that is good.
This and another comment from the other thread
Do you know something that we don't know about?
Called ages ago that devaluing the XB1 so quickly was a horrible idea. That's a very steep decline for a platform so early in its lifespan. It should be speeding up, not slowing down.
PS4 will be leading it 3:1 worldwide by the end of the year.
I don't know something as far as time frame or potentiality. but I'm very confident that they are going to abandon the Xbox console. Well, maybe not abandon. If it makes them money they will keep it, but when speaking about promotion and market share push, that's going to disappear. They have other solutions to the problem whileaintaining a presence in the living room.
I'm pretty confident I know what their e3 "never been done before" surprise is as well. And yes, it's pretty big
I'm pretty confident I know what their e3 "never been done before" surprise is as well. And yes, it's pretty big
Do we know that the PS4 isn't also down YOY? They are down slightly in NPD, but I don't know if they are making up the difference world wide.
So I'm also curious about this. When is a Gafer allowed thread making privlages/ go from junior member to member? Thanks in advance.
Go on......
I would agree with your statement if the kicking had stopped once Ms got the point. At this point everyone is kicking them while they are on the ground dying.
What "never been done before" surprise? The only articles about something like that from MS that I can find are from last year.I don't know something as far as time frame or potentiality. but I'm very confident that they are going to abandon the Xbox console. Well, maybe not abandon. If it makes them money they will keep it, but when speaking about promotion and market share push, that's going to disappear. They have other solutions to the problem whileaintaining a presence in the living room.
I'm pretty confident I know what their e3 "never been done before" surprise is as well. And yes, it's pretty big
I don't want it to be lost in this thread. I'd rather someone made a thread as a surrogate for my thoughts.
Just a hint, it has to do with a comment made by Phil recently about demos.
offtopic: if someone would like to surrogate my baby please inbox me.
I don't want it to be lost in this thread. I'd rather someone made a thread as a surrogate for my thoughts.
Just a hint, it has to do with a comment made by Phil recently about demos.
offtopic: if someone would like to surrogate my baby please inbox me.
I don't want it to be lost in this thread. I'd rather someone made a thread as a surrogate for my thoughts.
Just a hint, it has to do with a comment made by Phil recently about demos.
offtopic: if someone would like to surrogate my baby please inbox me.
I don't want it to be lost in this thread. I'd rather someone made a thread as a surrogate for my thoughts.
Just a hint, it has to do with a comment made by Phil recently about demos.
offtopic: if someone would like to surrogate my baby please inbox me.
I don't want it to be lost in this thread. I'd rather someone made a thread as a surrogate for my thoughts.
Just a hint, it has to do with a comment made by Phil recently about demos.
offtopic: if someone would like to surrogate my baby please inbox me.
Kinda off topic, but I found this on another forum just now
http://i.imgur.com/7UIwAY7.png
Is there a thread about this? Is it BS?