Graphics Horse
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I'd say so yeah. Not sure who's buying all the 360s tbh.
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Microsoft Q4: 1.1M XBO/360 Shipped
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I'd say so yeah. Not sure who's buying all the 360s tbh.
Zombie James
Banned
Sounds pretty damn bad to me.
RamzaIsCool
The Amiga Brotherhood
So the XBO shipped 600k max for the quarter. To be fair the 360 also sunk this low around this time of it's lifecycle. It came back to have a really good holiday quarter with 6.6m shipped. Dunno if MS is able to repeat that. I doubt it actually, but who knows.
Best description of this gen so far xD
1st Course
Member
Nah before this Q they used to give us breakdown.
Jimmyfenix
Member
Reggie was right.
What's to decode? The numbers are awful.
Aquamarine
Member
Except for the past two quarters Microsoft has given specific Xbox 360 and Xbox One shipments in their financial results.
If they decide this random Q4 to consolidate the two...out of all of the quarters they could have picked...that would be quite odd. Usually Microsoft keeps with precedent in this type of situation.
spookyfish
Member
It's good for those of us waiting on a deal to buy one.
Amentallica
Unconfirmed Member
So in addition to the number they gave several months ago with the number of XB1s shipped, how many XB1s are we looking at shipped?
They could easily ship more 360s than xb1s during the quarter depending on how stuffed the Xb1 channel is Vs the 360.
Chobel
Member
Yes
Welfare
Member
Yes. These are always worldwide shipments.
Katze mit Hut
Member
That seems super low to me. Not surprising, but wow nonetheless!
Duxxy3
Member
Xbox is only a tiny part of Microsoft. It's doubtful they will give out any more information than they already have, unless Phil adds something.
Man, this is worse than even I expected.
It is true then that they have massively overshiped Xbone in previous quarters, and that even with 3 weeks of kinectless SKU sales, they haven't have large shipments of consoles to the stores. It looks like another proof that kinectelss SKU is NOT SELLING and that Xbone is still very far from a desirable console.
It is true then that they have massively overshiped Xbone in previous quarters, and that even with 3 weeks of kinectless SKU sales, they haven't have large shipments of consoles to the stores. It looks like another proof that kinectelss SKU is NOT SELLING and that Xbone is still very far from a desirable console.
Ricerocket
Member
This is good for consumers, expect more aggressive sales pushing as they try to get rid of consoles not moving off the shelves.
SerTapTap
Member
Aren't they almost 2:1 in US lately? And PS4 has better sales outside the US relative to Xbone. 2:1 seems possible. Wonder if Sony will release real numbers at Gamescom. They've gotta be waiting for 10 million at this point
They shipped a ton of consoles, then started using shipped instead of sold as soon as the holiday season ended, because the sales were not satisfactory especially on a WW level. This blurred the line as sold vs. shipped as it usually does.
But eventually when you ship this much and the demand is not there, the stores stop ordering as many and well, you have a problem
But eventually when you ship this much and the demand is not there, the stores stop ordering as many and well, you have a problem
Mikey Jr.
Member
Ok, so the only thing we don't know right now is how that 1.1 mil is split, correct?
Wonder if we have the numbers to do it.
Aquamarine
Member
3.9 million LTD worldwide shipped Xbox One consoles - As of December 31st, 2013
5.1 million LTD worldwide shipped Xbox One consoles - As of March 31st, 2014
<6 million LTD worldwide shipped Xbox One consoles - As of June 30th, 2014
All this release tell us (so far) is that Xbox One is probably still below 6 million.
Compare that to Sony's ~9 million.
They may have taken the roll out of the new reporting structure as an opportunity to set a new precedent. One that just happens obfuscate low XBO shipments this quarter.
IAmRandom31
Banned
September may push it to 2:1.
PS4 sales could be huge in September with that slick Destiny bundle and standalone White SKU. I'm predicting Maybe 400k+ that month in US alone. It might move the needle a bit in Japan too ... Maybe. WW could be in the 600k range or more for September.
Then October is DriveClub, Dragons Age and the GTAV bundle which again could be massive.
So, surely < 900,000 units shipped for One and > 200,000 for 360.
Aaron Strife
Banned
Woof. Wii U second place for the gen confirmed
(not that it matters)
(not that it matters)
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Just so happens.... Man you can always tell when things are bad when company starts hiding shipment data.
rokkerkory
Member
well they are clearing out the channels it seems, good stuff
aggressive pricing continues i hope
aggressive pricing continues i hope
michaelius
Banned
Not yet but it seems PS4 will outsell Xbox and Wii U put together before year ends.
TimeEffect
Member
I would love to see WiiU a healthy second.
Dragonborn
Member
They probably haven't even cracked 5 million sold to consumers yet. The units they shipped out last quarters are likely still sitting on shelves, why would retailers buy more of something that's not moving?
False equivalency. The 360 shrunk because of supply issues, not because it wasn't selling.
False equivalency. The 360 shrunk because of supply issues, not because it wasn't selling.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
So it could actually be in that ball park,,,, wow... just wow...
Duxxy3
Member
You can throw out May shipments altogether. It sold poorly, and no stores were going to buy Kinect bundles.
I don't see how this small piece of information has any bearing on the kinectless bundle, or the desirability of the console.
Yeah. I wonder how many units the Xbox One shipped. If you were being optimistic you would hope that the Xbox One's shipments only dropped by half since last quarter.
8 million seems a bit low. Sony announced 7 million globally as of April 6. System sold around 660k in usa alone (April, May, June) and the share is a little better in europe. PS4 is probably north of 8.5 million now heading in towards 9 million sold by the end of July. If we assume Europe and USA share are 50/50 that would put sales at a minimum of 8.320 million at the end of June. So 8.320 million base line and then add in whatever else the PS4 has sold since then outside of the USA and Europe. The only thing that can throw this off is if European share somehow tanked.
PS4 should be closing in on 9 million by now, or will be by the end of July.
Edit: Aquamarine mentioning PS4 is close to 9 million.
Microsoft has never sold that much the first years..
Katze mit Hut
Member
Well some people on this forum stated that it might be possible that the retailchannels are stuffed for good. So it seems possible to me that they actually didn´t sell any or ver few consoles to retail in Q4. But we´ll never know (?).
Welfare
Member
Wait, nevermind, I suck at math today. 300k for 360 at least. Xbox one could be 700k.
massivekettle
Member
As a MSFT shareholder, I would definitely pull the plug on the Xbox console project and focus on mobile (high margins, growing segment)/PC gaming (complements their core products).