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Microsoft seeking staff for next-gen Xbox
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Barack Lesnar
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Not a chance of that happening. Would alienate tens of millions of customers. Kinect 2.0 will be an option (probably built-in or bundled from the start).StevieP said:
2014-2015 sounds good to me. This gives 3D glasses-free TVs more chance to develop and become mainstream consumer-ready products. There are only just working prototypes out now.
gutter_trash
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take your time MS! take your time!
I am in now rush to jump generation any time soon
I am in now rush to jump generation any time soon
Heavy said:
It would alienate people? Really?
Like it or not, motion control in some form is going to be the standard next gen - across the board. In what form it will appear in on the Xbox, nobody knows. But the millions upon millions of dollars sunk into Kinect make a compelling suggestion.
As for glasses-free TVs that are large enough to be placed in a home theatre by 2014? Not going to happen. The current 20" models can't even properly allow 2 people to view the 3D. There was even a recent thread on this topic here.
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get2sammyb said:
Turns out you were right.
Eurogamer said:
DirectX said:
Turns out it was fake.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-03-21-new-xbox-release-date-2015-report
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camineet said:
What do you mean by dual-GPU? Two discrete chips? Or multiple GPU cores? Because I'm pretty sure the latter will happen. Of course, maybe it won't even have a dedicated GPU, depends on how trend projections align with the launch time frame.
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Both Kinect and traditional control (maybe with a differently shaped controller) will be standard and many games will use both.
Agreed. Kinect 2.0 will not be the main control whatsoever but it will be included in every SKU. Also HDDs will be in every SKU as well.Heavy said:
I expect some awesome looking games but until game engines are further optimized we're still going to see sub 60FPS and screen tearing since devs will be trying their best to push the limit in order to cause buzz and hype.
Either way, I'm on board. I've always been a PC gamer only but this gen I got a 360 as well and it compliments my PC gaming perfectly. Plus my wife loves playing games all over again.
StevieP said:
Not going to happen.
1- it limits the games that can be played.
2- it alienates the vast majority of people who would buy the system.
3- Microsoft would be much happier to make you buy kinect2.0 at a later date rather than giving it to you standard then making you but a traditional controller.
Imagine how bad it would be if games next gen came out with special packaging saying "hand controller required". Ugh. Horrible.
The next gen console release dates probably aren't even decided deep within the secret halls of Sony and Microsoft.
Both companies are investing in R&D, have a strategic plan that lays out the roadmap etc. but the actual dates are subject to change. Why? Two main reasons: 1) the global economy and 2) the competition.
1) Economic recovery is required to launch a new $400-600 box yet no one knows how long that will take.
2) The last console transition point taught many lessons to the companies involved. It is clear that one lesson was simplified controllers creates casual consumers and helps win the living room. We have seen both Sony and MS learn from that and respond with big plays of their own. Another lesson that will not have been lost on MS and Sony is that being first to market with the expensive box for the hardcore gamers gains you market share. That issue cost Sony big-time last go-round as they dropped huge market share to MS with hard core gamers-- the same people who buy the most software and thus are the most profitable long term. It wasn't all rosy for MS as they launched with a rrod issue that eventually cost them over a billion dollars. Both companies will be looking to either launch first or to at least minimize the gap between their launch and the competition. So, both companies are watching each other closely for signs of the others strategy so they don't come late to the party.
Speculation is fun, but the corporate suits are doing the same thing-- just with a lot more riding on it and they are getting paid
. For my guess, I say 2013 or maybe it will slip into 2014. Why? Most people are happy right now-- console makers are profitable, developers understand the hardware, most gamers are content. This, combined with a slow economic recovery makes 2012 look a bit early. Many people are throwing around 2015 but I think that is late and either Sony or MS will be anxious to try to own the next generation launch before then... rather than risk launching second.
Both companies are investing in R&D, have a strategic plan that lays out the roadmap etc. but the actual dates are subject to change. Why? Two main reasons: 1) the global economy and 2) the competition.
1) Economic recovery is required to launch a new $400-600 box yet no one knows how long that will take.
2) The last console transition point taught many lessons to the companies involved. It is clear that one lesson was simplified controllers creates casual consumers and helps win the living room. We have seen both Sony and MS learn from that and respond with big plays of their own. Another lesson that will not have been lost on MS and Sony is that being first to market with the expensive box for the hardcore gamers gains you market share. That issue cost Sony big-time last go-round as they dropped huge market share to MS with hard core gamers-- the same people who buy the most software and thus are the most profitable long term. It wasn't all rosy for MS as they launched with a rrod issue that eventually cost them over a billion dollars. Both companies will be looking to either launch first or to at least minimize the gap between their launch and the competition. So, both companies are watching each other closely for signs of the others strategy so they don't come late to the party.
Speculation is fun, but the corporate suits are doing the same thing-- just with a lot more riding on it and they are getting paid
. For my guess, I say 2013 or maybe it will slip into 2014. Why? Most people are happy right now-- console makers are profitable, developers understand the hardware, most gamers are content. This, combined with a slow economic recovery makes 2012 look a bit early. Many people are throwing around 2015 but I think that is late and either Sony or MS will be anxious to try to own the next generation launch before then... rather than risk launching second.REMEMBER CITADEL
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TheOddOne said:
A new development studio focused on next gen games, then?
SPEA said:
Only if they don't want to launch in the holiday period. Announcing a new platform a year and a half in advance sounds too much to me. I still think it's going to be an E3 2013 reveal, with some information leaking out in 2012.
It doesn't look like Sony's ready to respond, they'll focus on the NGP first. Nintendo has pretty much lost all third party support on the console side. They can bring Kinect and Xbox Live along with them. They're not going to sit and wait for Nintendo to release a console that may or may not be better than theirs. Third party devs can just expand on their current high-end tech. Take Crysis 2 for example, framerate barely holds up on consoles.StevieP said:
MS's Xbox Division now has the money and popularity and mindshare to kick it into overdrive before MS shareholders regain their memory and recall the money they dumped into the Xbox and Zune brands.
Or its just developers that help existing internal and external studios. Microsoft has lend out people to work on first-party published games before. MGS has bulked up a lot recently, from beginning 2010 till now they have hired over a 100 people for internal and external development.REMEMBER CITADEL said:
Hmm...sounds like the Live ecosystem will be getting some changes for the next generation and these guys are going to be coming up with titles to take advantage of them. Platform launch titles will need a little more time than Kinect launch titles so I would think in the 18 month range as well. Unless they are going to convert some current projects into ones for the next platform.
More job postings with the same text: Technical Artist and Creative Director.
I guess they are ramping up on the launch/hype titles.
I guess they are ramping up on the launch/hype titles.
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H_Prestige said:
There was a time when people seriously considered set top boxes (like your cable box, the ps2, web tv, etc) as the replacement to the PC. Microsoft wanted/needed a presence here in case that happened, thus the Xbox.
They also had a product called UltimateTV that was a hybrid Tivo and WebTV box. They canned that fairly quickly once it was obvious that market was a dead end.
For a variety of reasons, this never really panned out. It's seeming more like phones (and by extension, tablets) will be for the casual user.
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Curufinwe said:
Since they apparently still haven't started designing the hardware, they'll probably have more than that.
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Manmademan said:
Exactly. Consoles aren't going to replace computers for the casual consumers. Smartphones and tablets will.
Anticitizen One
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So now that the word is out that nintendo is unveiling there next generation console at e3 will Microsoft show there hand as well or hold off a few months?
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Anticitizen One said:
I wouldn't expect any sort of announcement until next year at the earliest. I would be shocked to see something at this E3.
If the Wii 2 gets an early 2012 release like rumored, then it's going to likely have a head-start on MS and Sony next-gen consoles which I think will be out Fall 2013. MS and Sony still have a lot invested in this current-gen, and they probably aren't ready to let it go just yet.