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[E-Cat]

Isn't two thirds actually so close that you won't notice it in most cases?

Hardly. That's like the difference between a high-end and (an upper) mid-range GPU of the same family.

 

[Iced_Eagle]

Speak for yourself. It isn't about the specs, it's about the games, features and services. I've said this over and over here. Halo will be well represented, as will other games on the platform.

This.

Forza 5 looked fucking glorious. I can't wait to see what their others games look like at E3.

Such a misleading quote in the OP. Obviously they didn't want to put a GeForce Titan in this thing. PS4 went the same way.

 

[Respawn]

lol where is he? I want to read his honest impressions on the console, specifically the hardware.

perma banned.

 

[Majanew]

Wow. I might just change my mind and not buy an Xbox One to go beside my PS4 this holiday. You are fucking dumb, MS. DUMB.

 

[mysteriousmage09]

Translation, games are a secondary thing now. Fuck you gamers, tv is where it's at.

 

[Thug Waffle]

Halo fans (and Xbox fans in general) must be disappointed as fuck.

I am, for sure.

 

[Buckethead]

I'd rather have a higher frame rate, tbh.

 

[Klocker]

CLOUD COMPUTING makes this menaingless

 

[Mononoke]

This.

Forza 5 looked fucking glorious. I can't wait to see what their others games look like at E3.

Such a misleading quote in the OP. Obviously they didn't want to put a GeForce Titan in this thing. PS4 went the same way.

Pre-rendered CGI looked fucking glorious?

 

[chubigans]

perma banned.

Maybe this conference wasn't so bad afterall.

 

[bigboss370]

look, a gaming system is supposed to push the medium forward, and high end graphics are an integral part of that. come on Microsoft...

 

[Rogue_Ledr]

Now here is a good question:

If they weren't targeting graphics, what exactly were they targeting as their focus?

Fantasy football?

 

[rockmanjoe]

too bad kinect will keep the price high.

 

[prag16]

Madden looked good. Forza looked good. I didn't think anything else looked particularly great.

They had 3 months on the last next-gen reveal. Three months more dev time. I didn't see much 'wow' here, so yes, I think it showed.

Except Madden and Forza looked like CG... And not even great CG at that.

 

[whyreggielie]

No used games and rentals most likely not existing for the next console is not the problem, but the graphics is the game changer? I like my graphics but I'm not upset about this, I guess a gamer who cares more about gameplay than graphics nowadays is a rare thing.

 

[Windom Earle]

Not if Xbox is the leading platform for multiplats again.

In which case you could possibly get worse performance.

That's just wishful thinking on your part.

 

[gaming_noob]

You're going to be missing out on a butt load of awesome games.

I'm just overreacting....but PS4 will definitely be the main console.

 

[Daingurse]

Man, Microsoft is making my next-generation console choice so easy. PS4 it is.

 

[Rygar 8 Bit]

ps4 it is

 

[Sydle]

look, a gaming system is supposed to push the medium forward, and high end graphics are an integral part of that. come on Microsoft...

Perhaps I just didn't look close enough (or care enough to notice), but I didn't see anything from Sony's PS4 reveal that trumps anything we saw today. KZ4 looked nice, but I thought COD looked nice. What am I missing?

 

[Y2Kev]

Xbox, go home

You're drunk

 

[AgentP]

lol where is he? I want to read his honest impressions on the console, specifically the hardware.

He is over at B3D sobbing about GAF and being tricked via PM. The sad thing is, despite my being hard on him, I gave him very good advice over and over again which he ignored. He loved to believe things that were not true and had no common sense filter that helped guide him. I suspect he is a young guy.

*pours a 40 out for Reiko*

 

[maltrain]

Excuses for a PS4 more powerful?

 

[Spongebob]

This just got very interesting. This means we might end up with a PS2 era type of graphical descripances.

Yep.

Next-gen is going to be interesting.

 

[Raven77]

Honestly the tech is the least of the Xbox One's problems from where I stand... granted, I'm happy with the WiiU, but the way the industry is heading (used games activation fees, focus on cloud and entertainment over games) just isn't appealing for me. If worst comes to worst and the PS4 is also doing the same, I'll just stick to Steam/WiiU... which would be a damn shame, but I'd rather not be bent over by an industry that thinks that monetization strategies are compelling content and experiences.

If this is what the industry wants, then I'm not playing along and will vote with my wallet.

Quoted for TRUTH.


People, when upset with an industry need to VOTE WITH THEIR WALLETS.

 

[Neo C.]

Honestly the tech is the least of the Xbox One's problems from where I stand... granted, I'm happy with the WiiU, but the way the industry is heading (used games activation fees, focus on cloud and entertainment over games) just isn't appealing for me. If worst comes to worst and the PS4 is also doing the same, I'll just stick to Steam/WiiU... which would be a damn shame, but I'd rather not be bent over by an industry that thinks that monetization strategies are compelling content and experiences.

If this is what the industry wants, then I'm not playing along and will vote with my wallet.

Exactly my feeling. The other (anti-consumer) stuff is way more worrisome, and I fear gamers are going to vote wrongly with their wallet.

 

[burgerdog]

Except Madden and Forza looked like CG... And not even great CG at that.

Forza wasn't CG. Man, this is really sad for the xbox exclusives that I like and possibly 3rd party games because they have to target these lower specs.

 

[R3TRODYCE]

Hope it's cheap

 

[Lifejumper]

How many times the 360? With that i mean the graphical capabilities.

 

[Solid Samus]

look, a gaming system is supposed to push the medium forward, and high end graphics are an integral part of that. come on Microsoft...

games cost a whole lot more to develop and market these days compared to even the generation before the 360 and PS3. If people keep on pushing the whole 'we need super-visual improvements, that's like the most important part of the whole gen!' mentality we're gonna end up with a game industry that is somehow even more centered on massive, mega-marketed, safe AAA sequels, because games are going to cost even more to make

 

[IcyBlueStrawberry]

Everything Microsoft says and does makes me less interested in their console.

That's quite an accomplishment, if I'm honest.

 

[ismk]

Yes everyone, join the PC master race muahahahahah

 

[Pimpbaa]

That's one way to spin your inferior specs.

 

[Majanew]

 

[E-Cat]

No used games and rentals most likely not existing for the next console is not the problem, the graphics is the game changer? I like my graphics but I'm not upset about this, I guess a gamer who cares more about gameplay than graphics nowadays is a rare thing.

It's not an either/or thing. A powerful console enables not just pretty graphics. You'll have better AI, better physics, bigger worlds, etc. Basically, more wiggling room for whatever it is you're trying to build.

 

[cyberheater]

I was hoping to be blown away but sadly I am not.

 

[The Omega Man]

perma banned.

lol no way!!!!!!!!! what happened to him???? why?? any meltdown? XD

Search is disabled at the moment.

Maybe this conference wasn't so bad afterall.

Poor guy, he really really wanted to look neutral and unbias, I guess the XBOX reveal was too much

 

[NateDrake]

I saw this detail about the GPU: -The GPU can do 768 operations per cycle. What does that mean exactly and what was the PS4 said to be at?

 

[malfcn]

What confirms the PS4 is god tier?

 

[Palette Swap]

Japan is just so smart.

The whole Wii strategy was just there to lure Microsoft into a wrong strategy so Sony can reclaim the throne.

The longest running con of the industry.
It all began with the CD add-on for SNES. They had this big public fallout just to lure Sega.
And now, they've scammed MS into chasing that motion controls low tech.

 

[prag16]

Forza wasn't CG.

Source?

I'd possibly believe that I guess, since for racing games it's usually easier to get a realistic look than other games. I'd be shocked if Madden was real though.

 

[CrunchinJelly]

Reiko must be devastated.

He was banned. Guess why?

He was banned lol

Good riddance.

He was such a 'stealth troll'. Always put in some cryptic bs to cause confusion and derail the threads.

he is probably in tears right now

Where is that dual APU Reiko?

Maybe this conference wasn't so bad afterall.

He is over at B3D sobbing about GAF and being tricked via PM. The sad thing is, despite my being hard on him, I gave him very good advice over and over again which he ignored. He loved to believe things that were not true and had no common sense filter that helped guide him. I suspect he is a young guy.

*pours a 40 out for Reiko*

Gloating is never a good look, guys.

 

[Trickster]

That's cool microsoft. I'll just purposefully not buy your console

Source?

I'd possibly believe that I guess, since for racing games it's usually easier to get a realistic look than other games. I'd be shocked if Madden was real though.

A turn10 designer said so on twitter. Besides, it's clear as daylight that it was realtime footage.

 

[Scrawnton]

How many times the 360? With that i mean the graphical capabilities.

It doesn't multiply... It divides. Xbox 360 divided by Xbox 360 equals an Xbox One.

 

[Angelus Errare]

games cost a whole lot more to develop and market these days compared to even the generation before the 360 and PS3. If people keep on pushing the whole 'we need super-visual improvements, that's like the most important part of the whole gen!' mentality we're gonna end up with a game industry that is somehow even more centered on massive, mega-marketed, safe AAA sequels, because games are going to cost even more to make

I hope you don't think there's going to be some major difference in development cost between PS4 and Xbox games because the Xbox has a weaker GPU.

 

[E-Cat]

That's cool microsoft. I'll just purposefully not buy your console

And a new meme was born. :O

 

[chubigans]

Gloating is never a good look, guys.

He seriously derailed so many conversations that for a second I thought he was an insider.

Guess not.

 

[BruiserBear]

Gloating is never a good look, guys.

Neither is acting stupid over, and over, and over again. I tried to warn him as well, as he loved to post about completely dubious rumors. He just didn't want to give up the dream though. lol

 

[Uno Venova]

Gloating is never a good look, guys.

Eh, he ruined quite a few threads with the bullshit.

It is nice to have confirmations now, less 'wink wink', 'things will change', 'crow will be eaten' going on.

 

[Majanew]

Did Reiko have an account bet or something on Xbox One's specs?