flipping_heck
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Could someone tell me what Marionette is? Any info or past artwork/screenies/whatever?
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Miyamoto talks Wiimakes (Nintendo Dream interview)
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tanasten
glad to heard people isn't stupid anymore
I want RE4 with wiimote and output at 720i (cube was less)
Also, I want Four Swords ported with Wi-Fi enabled (best multiplayer game ever).
And Metroid Prime & Echoes ported!
And Wind Waker wiimake and expanded!
Mario Sunshine could be wimmaked too. Could be more fun and interesting
Also... Lost Kingdoms 1&2. I like those games and with the Wiimote could be a lot more fun.
Also, I want Four Swords ported with Wi-Fi enabled (best multiplayer game ever).
And Metroid Prime & Echoes ported!
And Wind Waker wiimake and expanded!
Mario Sunshine could be wimmaked too. Could be more fun and interesting
Also... Lost Kingdoms 1&2. I like those games and with the Wiimote could be a lot more fun.
soundwave05
Member
Marionette is different from Stage Debut/Mario Artist.
It's basically from what I understand intended to be a puppetry game, since Mr. Miyamoto apparently really like marionette puppets.
"Marionette" was on a release list that Nintendo accidentally released during E3 2001 IIRC.
"100 Marios" (aka Mario 128) was also on that same list.
It's possible "Marionette" may have been the game that was the precursor to the development of the Wiimote itself, as such a title would almost assuredly require a controller similar to the Wiimote (and Nintendo also invested in a company called Gyration in 2001 as well).
It's basically from what I understand intended to be a puppetry game, since Mr. Miyamoto apparently really like marionette puppets.
"Marionette" was on a release list that Nintendo accidentally released during E3 2001 IIRC.
"100 Marios" (aka Mario 128) was also on that same list.
It's possible "Marionette" may have been the game that was the precursor to the development of the Wiimote itself, as such a title would almost assuredly require a controller similar to the Wiimote (and Nintendo also invested in a company called Gyration in 2001 as well).
Shikamaru Ninja
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I don't think so. It was believed before that Marionette moved to Stage Debut. I think the interview is confusing because of the translation.
The idea was it to be like Talent Maker / Stage Debut. Puppets in a sandbox game.
soundwave05
Member
Perhaps some elements were carried over, but I think Marionette is/was a different game.
Just as some elements of the Mario 128 demo were carried over into Pikmin, but that doesn't mean Pikmin = Mario 128.
You'll recall at one time Mr. Iwata stated there were great new games coming for the GCN that would utilize a new accessorie. I think this was Marionette + gyro controller, which eventually became the Wii controller.
Besides I don't ever remember Nintendo demoing or saying Stage Debut was a puppetry type of game. All it ever was basically was a continuation of the Mario Artist series on the 64DD.
Just as some elements of the Mario 128 demo were carried over into Pikmin, but that doesn't mean Pikmin = Mario 128.
You'll recall at one time Mr. Iwata stated there were great new games coming for the GCN that would utilize a new accessorie. I think this was Marionette + gyro controller, which eventually became the Wii controller.
Besides I don't ever remember Nintendo demoing or saying Stage Debut was a puppetry type of game. All it ever was basically was a continuation of the Mario Artist series on the 64DD.
wind_steaker
Member
wind waker with the missing dungeons you say? (and revised treasure hunt)
count me in
count me in
I dunno, I'm a bit sceptic about this. Feels cheap to get ports of essentially the same games when you got next-gen hardware and all. Wait sorry...forget the "next-gen" part.
Still, it feels like he's indicating a will to semi-port GC games to Wii in a more systematic fashion than the occasional special editions we see on consoles nowadays.
I guess it's cool though, if it doesn't require much in terms of resources and the games are very cheap when released. Although I'm a bit worried this could motivate 3rd parties to go lazy and just add wii controls to their old gc games to make a quick buck and throw the "innovation" part out the window, much in the same way they treat the DS (outside Japan). I mean, as I see it...what I want out of the Wii isn't wii controls tacked onto old and proven games that weren't designed for the wiimote in the first place.
Still, it feels like he's indicating a will to semi-port GC games to Wii in a more systematic fashion than the occasional special editions we see on consoles nowadays.
I guess it's cool though, if it doesn't require much in terms of resources and the games are very cheap when released. Although I'm a bit worried this could motivate 3rd parties to go lazy and just add wii controls to their old gc games to make a quick buck and throw the "innovation" part out the window, much in the same way they treat the DS (outside Japan). I mean, as I see it...what I want out of the Wii isn't wii controls tacked onto old and proven games that weren't designed for the wiimote in the first place.
Mr. Pointy
Member
Well, I think a marionette puppet game would definitely work on Wii, although I'm curious as to the point of it.
Pureauthor
Member
Won't be a problem for me, seeing as I've never owned a GC.
Ported games that may no longer be available in GC mode is good.
Ported games that may no longer be available in GC mode is good.
ironichaos
Member
http://www.n-sider.com/articleview.php?articleid=239
The rest of the article goes on to talk about Mario Artist: Talent Maker.
Zoramon089
Banned
Marionette? Describing any Miyamoto game (animals fighting in space ships, plumber fighting mushrooms and dinosaurs to save a princess, huge ape beating up stuff and fighting crocodiles) would sound retarded but the games are fun and play well.
cordonbleu
Member
:lol :lol Not many for them to port so that would last them maybe six months.
I think that the idea behind re-releasing some Gamecube content would be to create another revenue stream and also bolster the library obviously, these games are also going to be available, in Nintendos minds, to a much wider demographic then the Gamecube had.
I think its a great idea, they could label these games, ala BIT GENERATIONS/TOUCH GENERATIONS, perhaps MINIS or WiiPOWER, and actually release them on the small cube discs at a retail price of like $24.95 or something.
Im imagining that the types of games they would be considering would be
ROGUE SQUADRON 2 + 3
GEIST
BATTALION WARS
PIKMIN 1 + 2
LUIGIS MANSION
DONKEY KONGA
STARFOX ASSAULT
WAVERACE
1080
and any other game that COULD benefit from wii controls.
Miya on Marionette:
"And as for Marionette, it is still under development. It is not a Mario game, but an actual Marionette game utilizing a puppet. I am hoping to make something both complicated and simple at the same time, which is kind of a contradiction. But already we are experimenting. And once again, sometime in the future we may be able to show you something on it."
http://cube.ign.com/articles/097/097690p1.html
"And as for Marionette, it is still under development. It is not a Mario game, but an actual Marionette game utilizing a puppet. I am hoping to make something both complicated and simple at the same time, which is kind of a contradiction. But already we are experimenting. And once again, sometime in the future we may be able to show you something on it."
http://cube.ign.com/articles/097/097690p1.html
Shikamaru Ninja
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It's not? (shrug)
this sounds like it will help to fill any gaps in wii's schedule, which could be very effective if the console is a big success in japan.
like many have said, i think this would take small resources and i'd guess it's already happened to the first party titles and is in the fine tuning stage.
some games would definitely benefit. mario sunshine springs to mind. i'm not a fan of the game but i think having a virtual pointer for the water gun would definitely improve the controls. luigi's mansion and pikmin also seem natural fits.
like many have said, i think this would take small resources and i'd guess it's already happened to the first party titles and is in the fine tuning stage.
some games would definitely benefit. mario sunshine springs to mind. i'm not a fan of the game but i think having a virtual pointer for the water gun would definitely improve the controls. luigi's mansion and pikmin also seem natural fits.
Shikamaru Ninja
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Luigi's Mansion 2 and Pikmin 3. Wii Remixes. Those are the main two i would think of. I can't see Sunshine or Wind Waker making it over anytime soon with TP and Galaxy taking center stage in 06/07.
Ponn01 said:
Oh, stop ****ing drama queening. It's not like this will consume anything close to serious or noteworthy developmental resources, and it's not like they're not actually going to make new games for the system -- in fact, given that they've already announced, oh, twenty or so, I think it's pretty safe to assume that they will be developing new games and not just slapping the controller on old games.
Every other industry makes catalogue titles freely available through rereleases and reprintings on new formats. Only releasing things once, on one system, is kind of retarded when you think about it, and really limits the potential audience for some great games.
What if you had to comb used shops to find a VHS copy of Schindler's List, because it never came out on DVD? What if the only way to own AC/DC albums was by buying 8-tracks or records through eBay?
A good product for which there is interest should be made available new through retail channels indefinitely. The current system of (maybe) a couple printings and then you have to go hunting through used bins is really a disservice to the customer and the industry.
What if you had to comb used shops to find a VHS copy of Schindler's List, because it never came out on DVD? What if the only way to own AC/DC albums was by buying 8-tracks or records through eBay?
A good product for which there is interest should be made available new through retail channels indefinitely. The current system of (maybe) a couple printings and then you have to go hunting through used bins is really a disservice to the customer and the industry.
beelzebozo
Jealous Bastard
re4 + wii = sounds good to mii
Mr. TV Goggles
Banned
This whole post was just a joke, right?Ponn01 said:
Mr. TV Goggles said:
Which part? Nintendo fans buying anything or Nintendo milking barely 4 to 1 year old properties? Seriously, no time or energy should be put into this venture. After two generations of letdown Nintendo should be in full "put up or shut up" mode and milking old gamecube games is not it.
It doesn't matter anyways, I read the thread more closely after I posted and par for the course Nintendo fans are already spinning and convincing themselves how cool the idea is eating it up so reason is thrown out the window yet again. If you don't want ports of current gen games or quick cash ins with the wiimote control just thrown on then don't send any message to developers that you're doing the same thing and actually excited about doing it.
evilromero
Member
Why do I grow less enthusiastic with each interview? Maybe the high from E3 is just about dead now or possibly I'm craving some Xbox 360 games at the moment. Hopefully that will change before launch.
cvxfreak said:
That's pretty much what they are doing.
I guess this isn't really for us, though. I already played every relevant GC game so I'm not likely to rebuy them with new functionality. But for the 6 billion people who never touched the system, they may find a gem or two they never knew about. It's fine with me if they tweak some classics for a new audience. As long as they make Super Mario Kart: Online I will be happy.
Scopebob Sniperpants
Member
I'm bumping this old thread in hopes that someone out there has an update on this project/rumor.
This thread popped into my head today for nor apparent reason. Does anyone have an update of any kind?
This thread popped into my head today for nor apparent reason. Does anyone have an update of any kind?
Like the hat?
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besada said:
and as we've all learned, good games all have to have top of the line graphics
Smiles and Cries
Member
Riiiiise from dee graveeeeee...
damn I got all excited reading the OP
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damn I got all excited reading the OP
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Scopebob Sniperpants
Member
In hindsight I should have been more specific about the rumor I wanted more details about.
What has come of this idea/concept? I hear rumblings every now and then from outside sources (other than GAF) but it's basically the equivelant of old ladies at a knitting circle. Has this concept been thrown to indie devs instead? Are we going to see a wii hash of "Movies" but with puppet controls?
JodyAnthony said:
Wow. I completely didn't say that. But games with good graphics, which some people want, do have to have good graphics. A=A.
It's all sort of pointless as I had missed the date of the thread (thanks threadbumper!) and was responding to a pre-Wii release quote as if it were a post-Wii release quote implying the NEXT Zelda would look like a GC Zelda.
Pokeylongo
Member
I read through most of the first page before realizing this was from 2006.
That said, where's my Stage Debut (formerly Mario Artist: Talent Studio, a 3d movie maker)? They could call it something like Wii Movies, let you put Mii's in it and put movies online. Why don't they ever talk about it?!
That said, where's my Stage Debut (formerly Mario Artist: Talent Studio, a 3d movie maker)? They could call it something like Wii Movies, let you put Mii's in it and put movies online. Why don't they ever talk about it?!