While I have enjoyed multiple Monster Hunter games, I am not so attached to the series that I wouldn't mind them shaking it up quite a bit. That being said, I really don't want them to lose that charm. Those little animations are a big part of what kept me coming back. I hope that goofy fun element is still in this one.
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Monster Hunter World (XB1/PS4, PC later, Early 2018) E3 info [Up: Effectively MH5]
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While I have enjoyed multiple Monster Hunter games, I am not so attached to the series that I wouldn't mind them shaking it up quite a bit. That being said, I really don't want them to lose that charm. Those little animations are a big part of what kept me coming back. I hope that goofy fun element is still in this one.
Not even remotely the same
The animations are long and exaggerated to make it a dangerous to consume power up's during a fight.
Removing consuming animations would potentially make encounters more trivial
Yeah that is what I am afraid of... The animations are there as a risk and reward factor. I really hope they do not make the game too streamline.
I don't see how the healing animations made the game any harder; it just made it more tedious. Whenever I got low on health, I would take a few second sprint to the closest zone, heal, eat, sharpen my weapon, and then waltz back with the monster waiting for me.
An open world with less tedious animations will be awesome.
An open world with less tedious animations will be awesome.
Well if you are gonna zone every single time to heal you are gonna take forever to kill anything.. I guess different play style and all that.
What you have stated is just not appealing to me and the DMG output number i really hope that can be turn off, the last thing I want is the dmc nightmare all over again
That was the LBG's special attack. I thought it was an actual machine gun at first so I was like NOPE.
Yea zoning out sound way more tedious then just thinking about when the time is right.
Pretty sure I saw Gaijinhunter mention on either Twitter or one of his videos that the damage numbers can be toggled on and off.
Chaos2Frozen
Member
Bloodborne don't need long animations to build a sense of risk vs reward for healing.
Edit:
I don't actually know how long it takes for monster Hunter to heal but if it's as absurd as people say it's is (5 seconds?) then it's really unnecessary imo
Yeah, hopefully a toggle but I can see what they are doing it. MH players are so use to knowing the zones of each monster, what element they are weak to and what damage type is best to cause maximum damage. I did not learn these from constant fighting, it was because I checked out a website that showed me and I tailored my weapons and hear for that.
Adding damage numbers basically gives new players a better indication that they are doing a good/bad job during the fight.
I wasn't a fan of the grappling stuff either but I think the HBG machine gun fire is like a hunter art where it has a meter and depletes.
This.
That said, I trust the team to find another way to balance the gameplay. I'm going into this with an open mind,
The animations are still hella exaggerated and silly in a good way, it's very much an integral aspect of MH at this point.
But I'm glad they got rid of the static potion animation with the flexing, that one was a bit too much imo.
Bloodborne really doesn't put a risk reward focus on potion healing. It manages that with the regain system instead. Healing in MH is a completely different beast. It takes the same kind of consideration as landing a hit with a slow weapon. You can only heal near a monster when once you really understand where the openings are.
Primethius
Banned
Pretty much.
There's no reason for me to think, given the changes to this installment as a whole, that the potion change is an isolated one.
It's likely to be like the Bloodborne example, where bosses and enemies are more aggressive as a result. There could be less downtime between monster attacks or just the monsters chasing you between zones makes the older healing system not a good fit. Given the plethora of changes and evolutions present in this title, we just have to wait and see how it plays out in an actual hunt.
texhnolyze
Banned
Yeah, I'm so happy to hear that.
That's honestly the best thing they've shown (publicly) so far. Not just because it looks great and helps make the monster feel real but because it opens up so many gameplay possibilities. I get the feeling a bloated Great Jagras drastically changes the way you fight it and I also imagine there will probably be a great risk/reward if you try and attack the puffed up belly.
^ it looks really good there but some parts not so much... still a ways off anyway, hopefully they keep adding details to other parts as it can clearly really shine.
Was there any footage of people playing it at e3 or just this official stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A70zlpFON24
Was there any footage of people playing it at e3 or just this official stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A70zlpFON24
Safeto20Scroll
Member
Thanks for sharing, the fast travel sounds hilariously adorable!
That's great to know, looking forward to it, I hope they drop a demo before the release of the game.
Those little firefly's replace paintballs they said.
SpiceMelange
Member
Once you get good at the game you learn the attack patterns of the monsters and can easily weave in consumables in the fight, even steaks. The fights are designed for you to discover which moves are safe to do so. Now you don't even have to bother to learn.
In my experience, among most people who are big fans of Monster Hunter but don't actually like Bloodborne or other Souls game, one of the most universal reasons given for the latter is specifically that Souls/BB don't feel like they have a sense of risk/reward when you use healing items, and you can sort of just quaff potions all you like until you run out of them unless you're literally trying to chug them when a sword is mid-swing aimed at your head.
I'm willing to see what they do here and give the developers the benefit of the doubt, but if healing is as consequence-free as in From's games then that's kind of the death of a lot of my enjoyment of Monster Hunter.
Ah I see! Paint bugs hah.
I love reading the initial knee jerk reactions from posters saying it looks like a crappy, "casualised" spin-off, just look at the first page lmao
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1390406
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1390406
Sammy Samusu
Member
Who said our opinion has changed?
SpiceMelange
Member
And I'm still worried this game won't be quite as satisfying and have the skill ceiling of previous entries. What's so funny about the first page being worried when the trailer purposely didn't show combat past 2 jumping slashes?
Chaos2Frozen
Member
Because it's an obvious over-reaction.
Personally I find it more hilarious that anything could be spinned into "They changed things to appeal to the west!"
GwyndolinCinder
Member
And thus Bloodborne relied on one shot kills/high damage, which just forces you to top up to 100% hp. Not a good argument for risk vs reward.
And monster hunter is an OTT game, what is with the amount of non-MH fans trying to tell MH fans what is good about their game.
SpiceMelange
Member
Youre delusional if you think they didn't brought MH on ps4 pc and goddamn xbox on an attempt to appeal to the west. They could have easily continued to churn out cheaper to develop entries on portable hardware for easy millions on the japanese market. And yet here we are, a much more costly to develop game with no local coop on xbox, a console with zero sales in japan, on pc which japan is incredibly niche and ps4 which has been lagging behind on that market. But no, not made for the west!
texhnolyze
Banned
To be fair, the trailer was bad at showing the nature of the series.
Instead, the trailer mainly shows the new features that are alien to the fan base.
Also, people are still skeptical at least until the gameplay demo showing on the 20th, maybe.
I'm mostly talking about people proclaiming it's an obvious shoddy spin-off when the fact it it's a mainline game made by the main development team and jumping to conclusions regarding the game having regenerating health, QTE, combat being "westernized" etc
Which was also the case for the MH4 Trailer. If anything this trailer spoke more to existing fans than to people not familiar to the franchise. Now I'm not saying a historical precedent makes this trailer any better, but longtime fans know not to call it during the first showing.
ShemhazaiX
Member
Get off your high horse. There's plenty of fans of Monster Hunter that want more from the game than it currently offers. Not everyone who plays it cares about it being some pinnacle of challenge. Some people just want to roll up with the squad and kill monsters to make neat hats, and the potential QoL changes are welcomed.
Man, look at this westernized garbage. No combat or co-op shown at all, this is nothing like MH.
boss monsters would kill and eat regular ones to regain their stamina. Deviljho (a boss monster) was the only one that would attack other boss monsters.
murdochmystery
Member
If I want to scratch the MH itch one night what's the best way to go about doing it if I only have a PC and X1?