This still makes me sad.
Rayman looks amazing though, not sure it's better looking than Origins, but it looks just as good. One of the best looking games of all time.
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More Rayman Legends media released: 5 screens and boxart... No port begging
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This still makes me sad.
Rayman looks amazing though, not sure it's better looking than Origins, but it looks just as good. One of the best looking games of all time.
Always-honest
Banned
Do gaffers think it's more artistic when there are brushstrokes involved?
Obviously the game's not that important to you and that's perfectly fine.
Do they? Is it the same market that would have bought the game? I find that the people who complain about that were never going to buy a 2d platformer in the first place. I've never met someone who has said 'I would've bought this sidescroller if it used actual polygons'. Sure, there's people who want a 2d side scroller to be 3 dimension, but they mean in all ways not just the graphics.
Do people see movies like Princess and the Frog and say 'why isn't this cg? This is outdated'. I really don't think that 2d or 3d matter in these kinds of games.
Yes, that's true.
NSMBW (not the mediocre DS entry) had amazing level design, my reference was strictly limited to production/presentation.
Neuromancer
Member
I wouldn't say advanced, just different.
Like I said in a previous thread I liked the more cel-shaded look to this storybook-style look.
Image quality looks cleaner. Even more stuff going on on-screen. Those would be advancements.
The artstyle seems richer and more detailed. That could be seen as an advancement as well, but also an evolution in art direction.
Why would you do that?
Member
Not a fan of the character art style (it reminds me of certain Flash games) but the game itself is graphically nice and has great detail and color.
I don't know if that makes sense... but yeah.
Of course, the game still looks fun.
I don't know if that makes sense... but yeah.
Of course, the game still looks fun.
metalslimer
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ShockingAlberto
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They absolutely do. Anecdotally, I have heard people say that exact thing.
And even Disney picked up on that. Pooh was basically not marketed at all and the amount of traditional animation since Princess and the Frog has been anemic, at best.
I know people who are hardcore gamers that do not believe sprite-based fighters should cost as much as 3D ones. To them, $60 for Persona 4 Arena is insane because it should cost more like Skullgirls.
Epic Yarn got a lot of the "Why is this a retail title when it would be downloadable on any other system?" bullshit in threads here and among some gaming journalists.
The "CG is just plain better" mentality is pretty common in the mainstream. It's flashy, it's colorful, it's not early 90s, the market is more willing to spend money on it.
The Technomancer
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Er, 90% of that is a screenhsot from NSMBU. The only things he shopped in were flat sprites for the models in the real game.
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qizah
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Can't believe that's all in game stuff.
Awesome art style. I still need to pick up Origins ...
Awesome art style. I still need to pick up Origins ...
This is a Rayman thread?
KennyLinder
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If it looks like that, and runs at 60fps, wowowow!
I wouldn't be especially for a total 2d assets game cause I experienced with the different 2d platformers released this gen that flatness wins over the quality of details you can put in it...and those batch of screens above catch the feeling I like from nsmbw...
But seeing how rayman sold pretty well in the long term, I'm not sure it would affect Mario...that much.
But seeing how rayman sold pretty well in the long term, I'm not sure it would affect Mario...that much.
Haunted
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yes yes, but the new models are the part I'm most unhappy with. The backgrounds in the new game are a big improvement over the boring ones in the first game.
It was a failed reference to that Simpsons thread in the OT.
I actually didn't realize, thanks for pointing it out. Personally though, I wouldn't say it looks tangibly better, just maybe slightly different. Looking at the simple comparison there though, I'd probably prefer the simpler Origins style, but that's just my taste.
On NSMBWii, I thought it looked just fine for what it was. Obviously the series could use a visual overhaul, preferably with 2D sprites and great pixel art, maybe even Vanilla Ware-type art, but it looked fine.
I didnt mix. I spaced them from the Wii U ones.
Its the same basic artstyle some here call shovelware-like, so I posted screenshots from both.
Nocturnowl
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Good point, better get back on topic.
Boy this game looks so much better than that NSMB disgrace that has forever scarred my childhood, why Nintendo WHY?!
Hey it turned into a Mario thread again....
The game is build around the WiiU. Doubt it.
They're not if that's how they think. :\ A hardcore gamer can sit down in front of all his friends and play pong.
metalslimer
Member
Wait until the PS Gamepad and MS Gamepad.
snowdog1971
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I can see both Ubisoft and Nintendo marketing Legends and ZombiU equally. Ubisoft are going to make a small fortune out of their U support. There are going to be more than a few executives of major publishers kicking themselves when they realise.
Supporting any new console at launch with decent quality software that's marketed properly isn't much of a risk tbh. And supporting a new Nintendo console that's launching with a new 2D Mario is a licence to print money.
VGChampion
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And now we're getting into semantics. Can we just skip this one and say a hardcore gamer is anyone who plays a lot of games and / or talks about them on the Internet? Okay, good.
Back to your regularly scheduled pissing match.
Yes. But it is still an improvement within the same basic art style.
Never underestimate the power of a console launch and what it could do for a quality franchise.
I can see how both have their place really, although I do like the look of Origins a bit more too.
Still, UbiSoft, you're selling me on the WiiU between this and ZombiU far more than Nintendo has managed to do, that's pretty crazy. Anyway, Day 1, frankly.
This may very well be a part of Nintendo's strategy. They held first party titles back to an even greater degree with the 3DS launch to foster 3rd party support, but the problem is they didn't have the third parties sufficient to fill in the gaps in that case.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
I definitly am extremely hyped for this and NSMBU
Alright, this is getting really fucking annoying.
A topic explicitly devoted to Rayman Legends and how gorgeous it is has denigrated to another thread bashing Nintendo for its 2D Mario choices. Same thing happened in Media Create for goodness sake.
WTF is up with this place?
A topic explicitly devoted to Rayman Legends and how gorgeous it is has denigrated to another thread bashing Nintendo for its 2D Mario choices. Same thing happened in Media Create for goodness sake.
WTF is up with this place?
WiiredShawn
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2D Mario is serious business, apparently.
I, however, plan to acquire both Rayman and Mario, and I will achieve happiness.