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[K' Dash]

I have both and have played none of them since TOTK came out

 

[CLW]

Alternate headline 20% of PS5 owners are idiots or is 20% of ps5 sales Xbox players that can’t not play the Sony exclusives

 

[Kilau]

Alternate headline 20% of PS5 owners are idiots or is 20% of ps5 sales Xbox players that can’t not play the Sony exclusives

Whew, glad I’m not an idiot. I’m just an Xbox owner that also has a PS5.

 

[Connxtion]

We got numbers on how many took the survey?

Currently without that, all we know is it could have been 1000 folk

I personally never take surveys companies send me and I won’t be the only one.

 

[Rykan]

Alternate headline 20% of PS5 owners are idiots or is 20% of ps5 sales Xbox players that can’t not play the Sony exclusives

Why are they idiots?

 

[Icymanipulator]

Worth it for me for BC alone

Dude, that’s rough. Have fun I guess.

 

[Rhazer Fusion]

Got PS5, XSX and Switch, but for most there really isn’t much reason to own multiple consoles anymore with exceptions like Nintendo Switch which generally offers a different experience and “genuine” exclusive games. Honestly, besides a handful of games, PlayStation has essentially everything XBOX has, very similar graphics and features. That’s why imo XBOX losing their identity hurt the appeal of the platform.

 

[TropicanaTwista]

I'm apart of the 50% that went switch/PS5. Really shows just how bad MS is in this industry, and missed the mark with the series S (which for some reason is getting a price increase). They've built a completely redundant box to PS5 and it's a worse product. Then you consider if you really want to play some Xbox first party stuff, you can just play on PC.

 

[Kdad]

Numerous BC games for sure

Hasnt it been xbox and PC hand in hand since the launch of the One era? So the only BC stuff that would be maybe not on PC would be 360 and previous? Go pick up a cheap 360 or One for those oddballs?

 

[smbu2000]

I have XSX, PS5, Switch and PC.
Only one I’d consider getting rid of would be the PS5 as that gets played the least in the household.

 

[Bry0]

Hasnt it been xbox and PC hand in hand since the launch of the One era? So the only BC stuff that would be maybe not on PC would be 360 and previous? Go pick up a cheap 360 or One for those oddballs?

No, some like halo 5 are not on pc, and many 360 games get 4K and fps enhancements like gears 2/3. BC on series x is awesome

 

[Romulus]

PC gaming is too convenient now. Controller based games that work out of the box and settings that are actually custom.

Xbox is essentially irrelevant with gamepass on PC. That has to be on the mind of any potential Xbox owner on ps5.

 

[Kdad]

No, some like halo 5 are not on pc, and many 360 games get 4K and fps enhancements like gears 2/3. BC on series x is awesome

Are those not on Ultimate and also playable on last gen (One) hardware...I guess we can find edge cases but you'd have to be pretty hardcore to justify an X just for those...

 

[Gambit2483]

I have both and have played none of them since TOTK came out

If it wasn't for FF16 I'd probably still not be touching my PS5 either....but yeah, TOTK has practically made both of those consoles nonexistent for many people.

 

[rodrigolfp]

How did they count?

 

[Clover904]

Let’s see the Xbox numbers after September. That’s when I plan on getting one.
Microsoft needs to keeps investing in great looking titles like Starfield, Fable, South of Midnight, Hellblade and Hi-fi rush. You’re turning heads. Keep the momentum going.

 

[Silent Viper]

Guess they wont be playing starfield at 30fps then

Better than playing at 0fps on my PS5


On serious note. Im not surprised. Many PS5 owners go for PC to play xbox games.

 

[mrmustard]

I'm surprised 20% own a Xbox, because i thought 100% own a gaming pc.

 

[skit_data]

Gotta say, I'm pretty surprised every 5th PS5 owner has an Xbox given how similar their overall catalogue is.

 

[Bry0]

Are those not on Ultimate and also playable on last gen (One) hardware...I guess we can find edge cases but you'd have to be pretty hardcore to justify an X just for those...

No not all the enhanced games get things like fps boost on last gen, and not all of them are on ultimate. It’s just one way to use your series console.

 

[Topher]

I'm surprised 20% own a Xbox, because i thought 100% own a gaming pc.

Some of us have gaming PC and Xbox.

 

[Stare-Bear]

I’ve got a PS5, Switch and a mediocre PC. Gamepass for free with my broadband so I can play the two games a year that I find interesting on GamePass.

 

[mrmustard]

Some of us have gaming PC and Xbox.

Can make sense for different rooms or your partner's house or whatever. But if you only game at the same spot not so much.

 

[Topher]

Can make sense for different rooms or your partner's house or whatever. But if you only game at the same spot not so much.

Helps a good bit in maximizing MS Rewards points with quests. And there are Game Pass games that are available on console but not PC (and vice versa).

 

[Matsuchezz]

-Backwards compatibility with some truly amazing games

-Gamepass and quick resume

-Starfield, Forza Horizon, Sea of Thieves, etc

-ecosystem made with future compatibility in mind

-Halo MCC multiplayer if they have any taste

Yikes, these reasons are the wrong reasons to buy an xbox console for me and I guess many more, according to the information shared in this thread.
The only reasons I would go out of my way and buy an Xbox console would be:
- Phil Spencer Confidence on xbox yearly games lineup.
- Phil Spencer Promises and gospel
- Xbox/MS transparent ideology towards gaming audiences.
- 30+ Development studios churning out turd after turd nonstop.
- Xbox cares about us the players, they care about us as much as any politician of this planet care about people.
/Sarcasm

 

[vargas117259]

It is either PS or Xbox, but not the two, unless you are financially able to do so

 

[Fatal Chuck Yeager]

There is nothing on Xbox that isnt on PC right?

Halo 5.

 

[NeverYouMind]

There is a plethora of backward compatible titles on XBOX not well emulated on PC. There is also Epic Games/Origins/Ubisoft/Blizzard titles on PC, which are better experiences on console.

 

[LostDonkey]

Dolby Vision on Series X is absolutely worth the console alone. HDR10 on PS5 is piss poor in comparison.

My PS5 is an exclusive machine, Everything else is on Series X because of the DV and the Freesync support.

 

[Kdad]

There is a plethora of backward compatible titles on XBOX not well emulated on PC. There is also Epic Games/Origins/Ubisoft/Blizzard titles on PC, which are better experiences on console.

And they are not on the One series ?

 

[NeverYouMind]

A lot of them are available on the One, but many feature enhancements exclusively on Series consoles. Things like framerate and resolution being key enhancements.

 

[El Muerto]

Who are they polling to get those numbers? I have a PS5, Series X and S, switch, PC, Steam deck. Definitely prefer playing on Xbox. Upscaled backwards compatibility is great as it's non-existant on PS. Quick resume and HDR perform better than the PS5, and i dont have to do that dumb storage repair if my console loses power. Plus day 1 releases on gamepass for even the big games, save anywhere for pc games, and MS rewards (scored the Series S for free).

 

[DryvBy]

I have one and it's used for emulators. If they get Activision (which I doubt), then it'll still be used for emulators. It's easily the 2nd worst purchase I've made in the last 10 years, the first being that awful Xbox One original console. I had less than five games to play for an entire generation on that Jaguar wannabe.

 

[Embearded]

Who are they polling to get those numbers? I have a PS5, Series X and S, switch, PC, Steam deck. Definitely prefer playing on Xbox. Upscaled backwards compatibility is great as it's non-existant on PS. Quick resume and HDR perform better than the PS5, and i dont have to do that dumb storage repair if my console loses power. Plus day 1 releases on gamepass for even the big games, save anywhere for pc games, and MS rewards (scored the Series S for free).

How often does your console lose power to use this argument?

 

[Days like these...]

Sony fanboys are Sony fanboys news at 11?

 

[Surfheart]

I regret buying my Series X, I hardly ever use it, but that's going to change soon!

 

[Neo_GAF]

you dont have to be smart to assume and know that in the end.

sony fans dont give a fuck about other systems. they stay on ps. even if they only play fifa, cod and nfl.

they even have to pay premium prices in psn, so why not change systems?

i remember during the ps360 times, you were able to snatch xbox games for almost half the price compared to ps3.

they should release starfield for ps5 once ps6 hits shelves.

 

[XGon'GiveItToYa]

More than 80% of PS5 Owners Don't Have an Xbox Series X|S YET, SIE data reveals

FTFY

 

[lpking2005]

I have a PS5, Series X, Switch and a PC.

I must admit though, since buying a PC two years ago i have rarely played any of the others except for the odd exclusive release.

All bases covered!

 

[Roxkis_ii]

Playstation, switch and pc.

I was thinking of grabbing a Xbox for Starfield, but I'm not buying a current gen console to play at last gen framerates. It's nothing else on Xbox I would look forward to after that. I had a Xbox 360 and I buy games, so gamepass don't mean shit to me. It's no reason to own an Xbox.

 

[Jigsaah]

"According to SIE internal surveys, almost half of PlayStation 5 owners in the United States also own a Nintendo Switch, while less than 20% of PlayStation 5 owners in the United States also own an Xbox Series X or S."

This is really interesting data that came out of today's hearing. And this is has huge business implications in my opinion. I'm listing a few of them here:

• Microsoft introduced Series S as a "secondary" console. But the data shows that more than 80% of PS5 owners did not buy an X or S.
• Perhaps this is also the reason why Series S did not perform as well as Microsoft (and everyone else) initially thought.
• Importantly, this data is from the US -- which is the strongest market for Xbox and where people are most likely to buy an Xbox console, even if they have a PS5.

The last, most important point is the potential success of Starfield as a driver of Xbox console sales.

People expect that Starfield will sell Xbox consoles. MS made it exclusive hoping that even PS5 owners may switch to Xbox or buy a secondary Xbox console to play Starfield. The data so far suggests that the percentage would be extremely low.

Only 20% are dual console owners. Out of the rest of the 80%, a large percentage would not even be interested in playing Starfield. How many more will become a dual console owner because of just 1 game? That's an interesting question.

In light of this data, will Starfield be able to change this percentage, or will the exclusivity decision backfire on Microsoft if PS5 owners don't buy a secondary Series X or S to play Starfield, which leads to lower than projected revenue for Xbox?

Starfield is available on and will likely play best on pc. One huge reason 80% on Playstation owners don't have an Xbox is because they have a pc. That was another piece of info that came out of this case. Will Starfield help to move consoles? Maybe a bit, but I dont think Xbox cares either way. Pc or Xbox is fine. I think they would prefer their PC store was more popular though. Cuz a lot of folks will buy on Steam. Me included

 

[Kamina]

0fps, then?

Creative Choice

I have both and have played none of them since TOTK came out

Same, i will play FFXVI soon though, as well as Starfield and Baldurs Gate 3

 

[MikeM]

Starfield is available on and will likely play best on pc. One huge reason 80% on Playstation owners don't have an Xbox is because they have a pc. That was another piece of info that came out of this case. Will Starfield help to move consoles? Maybe a bit, but I dont think Xbox cares either way. Pc or Xbox is fine. I think they would prefer their PC store was more popular though. Cuz a lot of folks will buy on Steam. Me included

Same. Plan on paying for a month of GP to play it as a FU to MS.

And no way i’m being locked into 30fps. PC only for this game.

 

[rhodesianshepard]

I only have ever owned Playstation and Nintendo systems, but will most likely buy a Series S when Starfield is released. I'm kind of bittersweet about it, cuz I don't really give Microsoft much credit for whether the game is good or bad. Majority of Starfield's development was done without Microsoft. Having said that, it does seem like this generation Microsoft is putting an honest foot forward to put out good games. I just hope it's not only through purchasing massive publishers, and it's with its own Xbox Game Studios

 

[Beer Baelly]

So 20% of all Xbox series owners dont have a PS5

 

[Ev1L AuRoN]

I have a PS5/Switch/PC.

I have absolutely no reason to own an Xbox. To console only gamers, it might make more sense. PS5 and Xbox have pretty much the same games, and IMHO Sony is ahead on the exclusive front.

 

[rodrigolfp]

There is also Epic Games/Origins/Ubisoft/Blizzard titles on PC, which are better experiences on console.

Name them.

 

[Darchaos]

PS5 and PC, feels like a good coverage.

 

[Reckheim]

if you have a half decent pc there is zero reason to own an xbox, i'm not surprised.

Wish ps5 games came out day and date on pc too so I could get rid of all consoles.

 

[Jigsaah]

Same. Plan on paying for a month of GP to play it as a FU to MS.

And no way i’m being locked into 30fps. PC only for this game.

I'm not really doing it as an FU to Microsoft. It's not that serious. I'm buying it on Steam because I prefer Steam's store and general interface. Simple as that. I'm a consumer. I don't get hung up which box or who's company is better and I certainly don't care enough to say FU to anybody.

Microsoft made Starfield available on Steam. That was their choice. So how much of an FU is it really since you're still buying their game on a platform they chose to make it available on?

Don't be a fan boy bro...you look silly

Edit: actually, fuck Jim Ryan, Aaron Greenberg and Matt Booty. I just don't like how they do things