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Movies Anywhere - New Digital Movie Locker
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Zeyphersan
Banned
Heh, I have a giant post in the Apple TV OT about how The Lego Movie and The Lego Batman Movie are both running in not-4K. Both of those I got from MA
//ARCANUM
Member
From what's showing in my collection, if it exists in iTunes in 4K, it shows up as such there. Example: on Vudu I have Alien Covenant which the highest res they offer is HDX (1080p). On iTunes that movie is showing up as 4K DV HDR. So if it exists in iTunes in 4K, it appears to be giving you that.
It made me want to get an Apple TV 4K because I have a cheaper way to now watch 4K movies (buy Blu Ray, get UV code, now on iTunes I have 4K!). But my home theater setup requires 4K HDR HDMI 2.0 AND optical audio (long story but the only way I can make both surround sound and 4K HDR work without buying a shit ton of new audio equipment), and Apple TV 4K has no optical out
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It made me want to get an Apple TV 4K because I have a cheaper way to now watch 4K movies (buy Blu Ray, get UV code, now on iTunes I have 4K!). But my home theater setup requires 4K HDR HDMI 2.0 AND optical audio (long story but the only way I can make both surround sound and 4K HDR work without buying a shit ton of new audio equipment), and Apple TV 4K has no optical out
.Called this afternoon but had no such luck. I probably would've been okay if I had thought about it, or had the time to call anytime before today. Oh well.
Rogue One is lost to that other account.
The Broken Ska Record
Member
Finally got all of my accounts connected. I don't have a Vudu account, but I'll probably go through and see which of my movies have Vudu codes.
I wonder if they will release an app for Apple TV 3.
I wonder if they will release an app for Apple TV 3.
pauljeremiah
Gold Member
Just after hearing about this, I assume that it's US only at the moment or does it work in the UK/IRL?
petethepanda
Member
Holy shit. Holy shit? Holy shit.
DMA has been amazing (specifically as someone who routinely goes between, Apple, Amazon and Google devices to watch movies), and Disney managing to get other studios on board is the absolute best case scenario. This is awesome.
DMA has been amazing (specifically as someone who routinely goes between, Apple, Amazon and Google devices to watch movies), and Disney managing to get other studios on board is the absolute best case scenario. This is awesome.
Dr. Zoidberg
Member
Just speaking for myself, as someone whose entire online movie collection is Vudu/UV, this doesn't really excite me. If anything my reaction is "Oh great, I wonder if this will screw things up". The main beneficiaries are iTunes prisoners who had bought things on that platform but that means nothing to me. Between UV, DMA, and Vudu, I was pretty happy. I realize others may have a different POV.
This is one of my concerns. UV isn't officially compatible with this. So if I have a lot of Vudu movies obtained through UV redemptions, are those really Vudu movies? Or will the only movies that show up on this new service movies we actually purchased on Vudu? If this services isn't UV compatible then that's a huge problem, especially since many movies only come with UV redemption codes.
This is one of my concerns. UV isn't officially compatible with this. So if I have a lot of Vudu movies obtained through UV redemptions, are those really Vudu movies? Or will the only movies that show up on this new service movies we actually purchased on Vudu? If this services isn't UV compatible then that's a huge problem, especially since many movies only come with UV redemption codes.
I have never once felt as an iTunes prisoner.. so not sure what you're going on about exactly.
the beneficiaries are everyone being able to buy movies on sale from whatever platform they want knowing that they will transfer over to their service of choice (for the included studios)
so if amazon has a movie $5 cheaper than vudu.. congrats, you can buy it and watch it on vudu now.
I am pretty much Vudu/UV only myself but Im happy because if these movies are ported over to iTunes in 4K then that is a huge bonus for me over paying UHD costs on Vudu.
Seems like they do port but arent actually playing in 4K at the moment. Will see how that shakes out.
Zeyphersan
Banned
I'm about to test with a 4K movie that's not The Lego Movie. I got a LOT from the move from VUDU
UV is almost certainly being phased out as studios move to this. Disney was the deathknell to UV taking off and Disney won.
Also my UV movies from Vudu did transfer. It just took about an hour.
Dr. Zoidberg
Member
I have friends who have bought/redeemed iTunes movies and were constantly annoyed that they couldn't play them on their other devices such as Smart TVs, Amazon Sticks, Roku, etc. Until now, they were basically stuck buying Apple hardware (the prisoner bit) because it was a closed platform. AFAIK this new service is the first to break that, so it's a huge boon to them. I wouldn't have bought films (or music) on such a closed service but that's just my preference. Doesn't matter now, I guess.
I certainly see the benefit to consumers, but I have only obtained streaming rights to movies through two sources: Redemption codes in physical copies, and $1 streaming upgrade through Vudu's disc-to-digital UV program. So buying digital-only rights to stream movies is not something I do, so it's of limited interest personally.
after giving away (legit giving away.. not ripping and unloading) hundreds of DVDs and blu-rays (probably 600+), I have absolutely no patience left for physical clutter. even the <200 DVDs and Blu-rays I still have left are whispering to me every day "look at all of the space we are taking up".
meanwhile my 242 movies purchased on iTunes don't even take up a square inch.
I get where you are coming from. just offering an alternate perspective.
edit - even the bitrate difference hasn't bothered me too much. Apple's AVC quantization on HD has been more than close enough to Blu-ray for me.. and they are at around half of the bitrate for UHD (movies are typically averaging 30Mb). The only real pain has been being stuck with Dolby Digital (although Plus at least). So it WAS a boon when they said Atmos was on the roadmap with the 4K box.
Apple refusing to support UV, and then Amazon withdrawing their pledge to support it is what killed UV. This is what UV was always supposed to be, and it's better than MA because of family sharing. Conceptually this is a step back from UV.
My Mad Max Fury Road is showing 4k on the apple TV and that came from VUDU. I figured Apple would just give you the highest quality version available.
I had an old copy of Watchmen that I think was only SD previously and now Im showing HD which is nice. It was weird at one point not getting HD copies. I guess well be feeling this way with 4k HDR in the near future.
I had an old copy of Watchmen that I think was only SD previously and now Im showing HD which is nice. It was weird at one point not getting HD copies. I guess well be feeling this way with 4k HDR in the near future.
Zeyphersan
Banned
Stuff I had in SD from Amazon and VUDU got bumped to HD, with the one exception of American Pie, which I bought in HD on Amazon like five years ago, and came to iTunes as SD. Weird. It got redeemed in SD on VUDU as well
so yeah, people are still trying to figure out if there is an issue streaming 4K from new MA entitlements.
But yeah, it is 100% that all old SD entitlements are upgraded to HD. This happened back when Disney first started this, and it appears to have carried over to all other studios.
So it's just verifying if 4K entitlements work which it sounds like they do, aside from growing pains for iTunes 4K in general.
Kinda cool that some of the OLLLLLLD digital copies i have like jumper and sucker punch were SD on iTunes, but upgraded to HD on the other services, sweeeeeeet.
Ugh had everything but Vudu connected last night. Came back in the morning and now had to do everything over again. I finally got iTunes to connect but my library from Vudu isn't showing up on iTunes but it's visible everywhere else.
EDIT: Okay *phew* finally the movies are showing up on my iTunes account!
EDIT: Okay *phew* finally the movies are showing up on my iTunes account!
If you already had a Disney Movies Anywhere account you have to connect that as well.
DOWN
Banned
UV was definitely worse in the beginning - it wasnt like this where anything you bought on a service in the past got imported, the way DMA has always worked. Apple supported Disney Movies Anywhere - they were never opposed to this concept as a whole. UV however was meant to strong arm Apple in the digital space so they could not do to Movies what they did to digital music. UV was a mess for a while with no download options and few services supporting it. iTunes had already been included in early years of DVDs and Blu-Rays so it was messy trying to quit giving iTunes codes and switch to new rules.
i3allistic
Member
finally got all account linked ....
end of the day, this is great for consumer ...
end of the day, this is great for consumer ...
yeah these are just glitches guys, I wouldn't worry. I have a copy of Rogue One that I redeemed on DMA to iTunes and Google.. it now shows up on Amazon but doesn't show up on Vudu.
I am guessing they will all eventually show up.
DOWN
Banned
So in theory, if I have an old iTunes account with a bunch of movies - could I unlink my current iTunes account, wait 180 days, link the old iTunes account and all its movies will be added to MA, then 180 days later switch back to my current iTunes account, and all the movies from my old iTunes account will have merged into the new iTunes account?
A long game, but thats how it should work now yes?
A long game, but thats how it should work now yes?
Super happy with this. Had movies on three services, now all unified. Only films that didnt transfer were from Paramount (Transformers).
Fun seeing what random freebies I got on various accounts. Had Austin Powers, Matchstick Men, and The Bodyguard for opening something at some point.
Fun seeing what random freebies I got on various accounts. Had Austin Powers, Matchstick Men, and The Bodyguard for opening something at some point.
Nordic4tKnight
Member
Same
Wag
Member
Nevermind, new Apple TV 4k still doesn't support 24p. I'll stick with my Shield.
Crimson_Gold
Member
So the 4k versions of movies aren't showing up in amazon. They did give me the black and chrome Fury road though. Gonna be interesting to see what transfers to what.
Do the 4k purchases in iTunes and Google play show up as 4k in Vudu?
Do the 4k purchases in iTunes and Google play show up as 4k in Vudu?
psychotron
Member
Just sold mine for $100. Bought 4K the same day.
Wag
Member
It does? I just read it doesn't. Does it output 24p @ both 1080p/4k?
Zeyphersan
Banned
Dr. Zoidberg
Member
I doubt it because if it works it opens the service up to a lot of account-sharing abuse. If it worked, couldn't you swap itunes account info with a friend and eventually end up with both libraries combined on each account through MA. As you say, a long game but that would be what happened.
This whole thing is now justified
Wag
Member
I do that now with my Shield. It's too much to hope there's a way to put Kodi on it? I have a NAS. I know nothing about Apple's products.
the side loading scene for the ATV is pretty huge.. but you need to be able to side load (aka have access to a Mac)
I believe it did have Kodi ported to it.
http://www.redmondpie.com/how-to-sideload-install-kodi-on-apple-tv-4/
yeah, kodi was ported. but you need access to a Mac (can take it to a friends house if need be) to side load software to it.
DOWN
Banned
I think thats the point of the 180 day thing. It inconveniences you for 6 months if you use iTunes.
But Im right that it would work no? It seems like it would...