RIP SP only games indeed with MS. Good to hear it's profitable I guess all the years of XBL + rise of GaaS and MT have recovered any losses over the years.
Of course 😉
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MS Financial Briefing: Xbox Live biggest gaming network, E3 "Next Wave of Big Hits"
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RichiRamjag
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Haha. You're not lying there.
wouldn't steam be the biggest network?
Also loyalty? what the hell kind of chart is that.....I know almost everyone who jumped ship.......there is no brand loyalty except extremists. You go where the games are, and casual consumers go where the price is.
TRUE ORDER
Member
I'll have to see some good announcements at E3 to believe this.
The reason I ask is because it appears that steam is a larger more monetized gaming social network than Xbox live, contrary to MS' claims.
It's built from the ground up to be one, infact Rare as a studio a couple of years ago was restructured entirley to focus around GAAS.
Phatosaurus
Member
As a paid service, I'm put off by adverts being on the home screen/dashboard, which are a form of monetisation.
As quoted earlier, "and monetizes far more than any other gaming social network".
That's all, I'm not here for baiting. Just putting forth my stance as a consumer.
hanspampel
Banned
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/Investor/events/FY-2017/fam-fy-2017.aspx?EventID=181160
if someone wants to watch the briefing
if someone wants to watch the briefing
I think he means in terms of the actual network not content, so that would be Xbox live subscriptions, avatar items, advertising etc.
Watch out, Neogaf is monetizing you as well.
hydrophilic attack
Member
phil looking sexy
Phatosaurus
Member
I don't pay money to Neogaf, nor are the ads intrusive. There's a big difference there.
except I don't subscribe to play my steam games online, or use party chat (which tons of superior programs exist on the PC)
Ricky Ricardo
Member
That's a strange thing to say. You know tens of millions of people who left the brand? Or the other millions who decided to stay?
I don't think that was ever in question. It is basically Rare's Pirate Destiny.
moffattron9000
Member
At this point, I don't care what it is anymore, I just want something to play. Seeing everyone say that this has been one of the best runs in gaming in a long time, and knowing that I can play about two of these great games is just plain depressing.
This Mixed Reality platform Microsoft is creating is waaay bigger then gaming. They are basically adapting their line of thought that made Windows the biggest OS system to this Mixed Reality platform.
They have multiple headsets, multiple hardware compatible, focus on creating tools that are appealing to the mass market and a big push because they already have this huge userbase with Windows 10
I think VR is slow at the moment because most focused on gaming first, while the focus should have been something with more broad public appeal, and then the gaming elements would come in naturally. Thats why I think MS (which is showing this is somewhat their approach) has a great chance to lead this Mixed Reality market and make it a popular platform.
They have multiple headsets, multiple hardware compatible, focus on creating tools that are appealing to the mass market and a big push because they already have this huge userbase with Windows 10
I think VR is slow at the moment because most focused on gaming first, while the focus should have been something with more broad public appeal, and then the gaming elements would come in naturally. Thats why I think MS (which is showing this is somewhat their approach) has a great chance to lead this Mixed Reality market and make it a popular platform.
Safe bet.
You know several posters here want just that.
phil looking sexy
He's definitely got that Johnny Bravo jawline.
michaelius
Banned
Well don't you need Live account for Minecraft ,Solitare and Minesweeper ?
And how are they intrusive on Xbox?
Outrun
Member
phil looking sexy
I like authoritive Phil, with the plain coloured, non-logo shirt.
chicagocubsfan
Member
I wonder what Phil Spencer's palace is?We have to change the target's avatar in the Metaverse. Let's send the calling card today.
I mean the network too: steam would have more users, more ad revenue. It wouldn't have subscribers, but it would have more members and more sales.
How dare they speak about financials at a financial briefing
MosquitoSmasher
Member
Can't next wave just mean the already announced games like State of Decay 2, Sea of Thieves and Crackdown? I mean it IS what's next for Xbox. Hate to be a negative Nancy here but I'm not yet getting my hopes up for big game announcements.
Yes, those are certainly what he is referring to. Likely including Halo 6 and Forza 7 in that as well.
lol
I was getting ready to say. People used to constantly say "Xbox division isn't even profitable! They'll leave the console business!"
Anyway, it's nice to hear that they're investing more into first party. I do hope that their next wave of big hits doesn't exclusively consist of GAAS titles. Throw us single player fans a bone or two.
Microsoft dashboard ads are not intrusive and are mainly about gaming content. Nintendo on the other hand has a giant Mercedes ad INSIDE the game's menu in Mario Kart. Now that's intrusive.
Steverulez
Member
Yeh I wasn't suggesting that guy was specifically one of them though.
I didn't think you were baiting just wasn't really sure what you meant but I understand now. Not overly thrilled about ads that aren't for games myself so I get that perspective.
RichiRamjag
Member
T-Mobile is gonna have it on their T-Mobile Tuesdays app in June, so people there are going to have a free month of gamepass to try at least.
LukasTaves
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Nice breakdown!
Thanks for all the trouble.
Next big thing does not mean the only thing coming next. We'll have to wait and see what they come up with...
Thanks for all the trouble.
Next big thing does not mean the only thing coming next. We'll have to wait and see what they come up with...
Freeman76
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I hope it allows exclusives to be created from it, would be interesting to see what they would do with it. If it has any similarity to Netflix, could be great.
I like it. The profitability news and the fact that MS see Xbox as important is great. I also want to see things evolve as opposed to stay stale and they seem focused on trying something somewhat new or at least doing it in a new way. I hope it works out. They just need to remember one thing: customer empathy. As long as they focus on that, they should be fine.
Of course the first post has to be a shit post, along with several others to follow. God forbid we have a discussion without this cynical crap on these forums.
Of course the first post has to be a shit post, along with several others to follow. God forbid we have a discussion without this cynical crap on these forums.
Steverulez
Member
BC revival confirmed
It's just you. And not relevant to the conversation at all.
Depending on how their first party investments look over the coming years, these new revenue streams can be a benefit to gamers like us.
The fact that they have to tell investors this means that it's questionable. They didn't give a time frame of the profitability.
Shil Pencer
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Just so I have an understanding on the hate on games as a service people concider Destiny and Overwatch in this category? The two biggest new IPs this generation and people are shocked that investment in that model is huge?
Especially if Xbox Game Pass takes off. That would help fund more story-driven single player games. They've already said as much.
Right, so they're definitely in the red?
Bits N Pieces
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4/10