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NBA 2016-2017 Season |OT| What do the Liberty Bell and Ben Simmons have in Common?
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MetalFearSolid
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fuck the Spurs, would rather have any other team than them win it.
Why are they always relevant just fuck...
Why are they always relevant just fuck...
GravityInsanity
Member
I haven't been watching the Cavs lately. Are they ok? I'm sure they will be a different team in the playoffs, but they're about to become a second seed after this lose. It's unusual for a LeBron team close to the playoffs.
JR just came back, fighting injuries and you're working new guys into the rotation, I tip my hat off to Lue getting this far. Cav will be alright and once KING James goes into a media blackout it's on.
He's a good man defender and has been showing improvement there, but he still has bad stretches. Defense as a team is more important though and our team has issues there that go beyond the players.
MetalFearSolid
Banned
KD and CP3 praying that your respective teams take out the Spurs if that matchup presents itself in playoffs.
What kind of strange person hates the spurs
They wish they were playing Suns level defense
Lionel Richie
Member
Yeah it's tough to gauge defense on a team this young as well. I'm still not big on his skill set, but I admit I was probably harsh considering how young he is. The Lakers are in a slightly fucked up position because their young player have shown some potential, but not enough potential to be worth anything big in trades or to be considered a sure thing as a core to build their future around. They need to nail the next draft pick, which is also not a sure thing because of the new people they brought in the FO. A big stretch of shitness was bound to happen to the franchise, this is likely it.
Starphoenix
Member
He's always had this extreme hatred. No thing new.
Good luck to Celtics-GAF. Hope they can hold onto the #1 seed and make the Cavs at least sweat.
nogoodnamesleft
Banned
That was the most complete performance ive seen the Spurs show since round 1. This team is so stupidly inconsistent especially against lesser teams. If we lost to top teams i could take it but when you lose to the knicks and then nearly lose AGAIN at HOME.....rage.
Show me this against the warriors and dont get blown out at home and i will be satisfied.
Show me this against the warriors and dont get blown out at home and i will be satisfied.
ryutaro's mama
Member
Best active coach, period.
Best active GM, period.
They get the most out of their players.
They draft players that fit their system, perfectly and they can swap players in and out, accordingly.
Spurs are basically the Patriots, minus the cheating.
BatiGOOOOOOL
Member
Gonna be waiting quite a while for the Spurs not to be relevant.
MetalFearSolid
Banned
I blame Larry Bird.. can't believe the great Larry Legend allowed this Spurs resurgence to take place. That trade looks worse and worse and might tarnish his executive career.
John Petrucci
Member
I know the Cavs in general look like shit lately, but...
How bout dem' Spurs ;D
Kawhi is that dude. I mean can we officially say he's top 5 in league player? IMO he's top 3, over WB, Curry, and Harden (two sides of court in bball) MVP is another discussion. I can't believe it when people say he's only top 10.
To me it's LBJ, and then kind of a tie between KD/Kawhi.
How bout dem' Spurs ;D
Kawhi is that dude. I mean can we officially say he's top 5 in league player? IMO he's top 3, over WB, Curry, and Harden (two sides of court in bball) MVP is another discussion. I can't believe it when people say he's only top 10.
To me it's LBJ, and then kind of a tie between KD/Kawhi.
Trading the 15th pick for George Hill is bad!?
Ninja Scooter
Member
George Hill is a top 15 PG (in a PG loaded league). You trade him for the 15th pick in any other year and you win that trade. Nobody saw Kawhi coming outside of maybe Pop.
It's 1. LeBron 2. KD 3. Kawhi and they're all close enough that any of them could have the best game on a given night
John Petrucci
Member
Kawhi 26, 6, 6, 3 in 29 minutes shooting efficiently and +/- of 30.
Kawhi plays with the bench really well. Great call by Pop. So much perimeter rotation passing, driving and kicking, and shooting capability with Manu, Patty, and Kawhi on floor. That's a great call by Pop.
Kyle Anderson also causing some havoc tonight. Gosh if he could become a solid NBA rotation player...
Very agreeable with this take
Starphoenix
Member
Starters can never seem to get into a rhythm to begin games, which is why their scores remain consistently low. Not sure what to attribute that too.
John Petrucci
Member
Seems so dependent on LMA just hitting his wide open mid range jumpers, doesn't it? Spurs starters are very pick and pop (Tony and LMA) and ISO (Kawhi and LMA) heavy. LMA has so many off games that it makes Spurs bench have to make up for lack of production during much of that 1st quarter. Pop is determined to get him into a groove for playoffs as he should be. They won't get very far without him being productive because they simply don't have enough talented playmakers. He has to make shots.
However, LMA has had quite the defensive season and is kinda underrated there for the Spurs.
Like I just mentioned, I like the idea of Kawhi playing some heavy minutes with the good drive and kick/shoot 3's off picks/drives guys (Manu and Patty, Danny if he's actually on for once)...throw in some good rebounders/hustlers and it's a very deadly 2nd or 3rd unit.
John Petrucci
Member
OUCH!
There's a lot of revisionist history with that trade. Leonard went 15th. No reason to blast the Pacers, especially when they got a damn good PG in the deal.
Now trading Hill for Teague? That's another story.
John Petrucci
Member
Pop has even said in interviews he had no idea Kawhi would be like this. They just needed length, athleticism, and boards at SF spot. They ended up with a franchise player. Spurs luck.
And Parker was still great so George Hill MVP was expendable.
John Petrucci
Member
Right. He'd be incredible right now on Spurs instead of Parker, but you can't have it all. Just gotta hope Tony is relatively healthy, energetic, and hitting midrange come playoff time.
Patty does kill Spurs defensively, but people don't talk about it much. Even at his advanced age, Tony's still a better defender. So they're kinda screwed defensively with either guy. Just have to have the defense intelligently cover for the guy as best you can and hope for best.
Edit: Oh shit Kawhi vs. LBJ highlights just got uploaded on
D*wkins
(Is it OK to post these kinds of YT names on the site?)
John Petrucci
Member
Great question. One that should be answered by a person with a much better understanding of the FA/RFA market and salary cap than me.
Hard to imagine letting Patty go, but teams are going to want to pay the shit out of him.
Seems to me Holt will have to go above cap a decent amount to keep him. Am i wrong salary cap experts?
Murray will be Parker's replacement
perfectchaos007
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Celtics now have the best record in the Eastern Conference. In Nate Silver we trust!
Hyperactivity
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Is he going to be able to be the primary star for a franchise? No, I really doubt it.
Is he going to be a worthy rotation/starting player? Yes
Does he have all-star potential? Possibly.
Uh... this tweet by WOJ...
Adrian Wojnarowski said:
I think it's supposed to be a burn about Vivek's ownership?
So that they play the Wizards and not the Raptors in the playoffs? Would depend on what the standings look like XD
Dejounte Murray has played well.
The thing is, I think Mills goes for a starting spot, and if the Spurs won't give him that, he's not staying.
John Petrucci
Member
Those wins do nothing but lower lottery chances. Chemistry won't transfer over from one season to the next training camp/season, not with as new as this squad is with each other. They need to lose as much as possible right now. The strangest case in which these are bad wins.
I understand that the idea is to learn how to win...but honestly...learn how to win next season after you get a really high draft pick.
Happy for you that your team is competing, though. They're showing lots of heart/guts. Just not sure it's the best move...but maybe the experience outweighs the importance of the odds of getting someone amazing in draft. We can only know later on.
Dreams-Visions
Member
Grats to the Celtics for enduring enough to get the #1 seed, for now at least. Maybe you guys will treat it with more respect than my Cav did.
Ninja Scooter
Member
the more they win the faster Buddy evolves to Curry form.
Been hearing this for the last 15 years or so. How many times can they restart? Shit they've been through what, like 6 coaches too?
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
I enjoy winning and all...but we better not fuck our draft chances up lol. If we are above 10th slot then we lose our pick....
Hyperactivity
Banned
Kings are in a weird ass position between the Sixers-Kings pick swap and wanting the Pelicans to both lose but not lose too much. I doubt they end up with more wins than the Timberwolves, although I guess it is possible. The main opportunity they're losing is trying to get past the Knicks/Magic/Sixers, and all 3 of those teams are also in similar positions of hardcore tanking and but having talent to get random wins.
Plus, I mean, they got both of these past two games on ridiculous clutch points, so if things go a tiny bit south, they end up with two hard-fought losses, which is the perfect loss for a tank.
Hield will probably naturally develop well at this point, but all of Papagiannis, Skal, and to an extent WCS would benefit from developing on a mixed sort of team.
And here's the thing - players play to win. Even on tanking teams. Never forget that when you're wondering why a team that should be tanking is winning.
Plus, apparently Joeger was playing rotations like he wanted to win against his old team.
John Petrucci
Member
Right. It's the ultimate unnatural act to not want to win when you've been the best at what you do your entire life and done nothing but win. This is especially true for young players in the league.
Hield actually looks surprisingly good to me now that he has more chances on offensive end.
Edit: Really cool to have new place to talk bball besides the troll infested Spurstalk.
Woj is saying that the Kings are denying it, but it's true. We already have reports that the Kings have gotten permission from the Sixers to talk to Hinkie.
Wait for Bam Bam come playoff time.
The Spurs will somehow draft Allen Iverson in a Magic Johnson body in the second round.
RBelong2Us
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Looks like LeBron went on some twitter rant about coaching and leadership....later Tyronn Lue
Ninja Scooter
Member
Vivek wants yes-men. Hinkie would last about a season before Vivek fires him for refusing to draft some shitty guard in the lottery.
Peter Ian Staker
Member
Hinkie will want guarantees that he will get to do what he wants. Doubt Vivek will give him that.
Too bad because a Hinkie-Divac FO would be pretty good.
Too bad because a Hinkie-Divac FO would be pretty good.