vas_a_morir
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zmoney said:
Oh you.
It's hard to say anything for sure in the preseason. This is a good group Cal's got. I can't help but think after he's won a championship (or maybe before that) he is going to bounce to coach the NBA.
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NCAA men's basketball 2011-2012 OT: Lockout edition
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Oh you.
It's hard to say anything for sure in the preseason. This is a good group Cal's got. I can't help but think after he's won a championship (or maybe before that) he is going to bounce to coach the NBA.
vas_a_morir
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mre said:
lol, let's be real. Taking away a championship doesn't really take it away.
BertramCooper
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And that's why we love him.MikeTyson said:
vas_a_morir
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nacire said:
What part of Kentucky are you from originally?
GodfatherX
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like a birth defect?
just joking man, going out of my way to be nice to the UK fans this year, I think by the end of the season Cal will be busted and all will finally be right in the world of college athletics (lol)
Really hyped to see what my Cards can do this year, Chane is ridiculous, Siva will be awesome as always, worried about center but we havent had a good center in years so its almost expected. Disappointed that Blackshear is out for the season, and Ware won't be eligible until Jan but overall I think we will be a very solid team
just joking man, going out of my way to be nice to the UK fans this year, I think by the end of the season Cal will be busted and all will finally be right in the world of college athletics (lol)
Really hyped to see what my Cards can do this year, Chane is ridiculous, Siva will be awesome as always, worried about center but we havent had a good center in years so its almost expected. Disappointed that Blackshear is out for the season, and Ware won't be eligible until Jan but overall I think we will be a very solid team
vas_a_morir
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I'm originally from Ashland. Unless you plan on opening a pawn shop, I wouldn't recommend it.
Have a feeling KU is bit too high at 13 this year and we didn't reload strongly enough to overcome the loss of the twins. It will be struggle to even win the big 12 championship.
But glad basketball season. It will be great to see a team that at least competes and has a competent coach at the helm. Fucking Gill. What a terrible hire.
But glad basketball season. It will be great to see a team that at least competes and has a competent coach at the helm. Fucking Gill. What a terrible hire.
bigtroyjon
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perfectchaos007
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Unless Texas recruited a reincarnation of the fab 5, we'll suck this year. 4 out of 5 starters will probably be freshman. we literally lost everyone last year
Mac the KNife
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My body is
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Pollux
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Talent wise...yes.Bowser said:
Y'all can't shoot the ball.
UNC has everyone coming back from a team that lost to Kentucky in the Elite 8. They also bring in McAdoo and Hairston.
We lose Knight, Harrellson, Liggins, and Hood and replace with our freshmen class. Everyone one of our freshmen coming in can be consider an upgrade in talent from the player we lost except for Teague's outside shooting replacing Knight's.
Knight > Teague
Davis >>> Jorts
Kidd-Gilchrist > Liggins
Overall this is a net gain for Kentucky (incoming talent vs outgoing). Knight's shooting is about the only thing that is not obviously replaced, although Wiltjer may have something to say about that. UNC fans will pull the experience card but they fail to realize some things:
1) Under Cal where freshmen play huge minutes (30+), our freshmen are basically sophomores by the time March comes around. Unlike at most other schools where the majority of freshmen get less than 20 minutes a game if they are lucky. How did our freshmen look late last season or the season before? Pretty damn poised if you ask me - and nothing like freshmen.
2) The experienced guys we lose: Liggins and Jorts. Although Jorts was a senior, how much experience did he really have? Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe he only had one full season at the D1 level. He played less than 5 MPG during Cal's first year. Liggins' experience will be missed but his leadership will be replaced by a senior Miller and two sophomores with Final Four experience in Jones and Lamb.
3) How much did experience help UNC and OSU last tournament against Kentucky?
My overall point is there is not a clear advantage for either team - if anything, Kentucky should be the favorites - we beat this same UNC team and will be a clearly better team this season.
It really all depends on how well we gel. If we can avoid freshman mistakes when we play you in December then I really like our chances. Also Terrence Jones is completely different than he was last year.
UNC's main weakness is their lack of shooting ability. Kentucky is one of the longest teams in the country this year and we'll give you fits on defense on the perimeter.
UK can beat you in a variety of ways. We can shoot it from 3 with Lamb, Wiltjer, Miller etc. Hell even Jones, Davis, and Kidd-Gilchrist are reliable 3point shooters.
If the shot's aren't falling we can go inside with Davis, Kidd-Gilchrist, and Jones. I don't see anyone on UNC's roster than can "out physical" Jones.
Teague is also damn fast. Not Wall fast, but a much better overall point guard than Knight was. We will miss Knight's shot though.
So yea, I would say that UK will be better than UNC. We're just more talented than you are.
I came in to post this. The Big 12 is a relatively strong conference and Iowa State might have a legitimate chance of upsetting some teams and turning some heads this year. Go Hoiberg and Co.!Deadly Cyclone said:
State would be a beast with him this year.Deadly Cyclone said:
I dont know if I would say Kentucky is better than UNC. I get a feeling that Teague is not as good as Wall or Knight and we really dont have a backup PG (Lamb isn't really comfortable in that position. Twany looked pretty good at BBM but he cant play until December). If Ryan Harrow could play this year, I dont think Kentucky would lose a game. But I get the feeling that like Terrence Jones in the second half of the season, Im going to be cursing Teague a lot this year.
Pollux
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I'll eat crow if y'all beat us.Bowser said:
Also, Jones is a completely different player this season. He's determined like nothing I've ever seen.
NewLib said:
Kentucky is more talented. Teague is a good PG and I think he'll do very well. Exceed expectations. He's physical as hell and from what we've heard of the practice reports he's an absolute pitt bull with the ball.
Weekend UK practice report said:
lol. Can't wait to see these guys play someone other than themselves tomorrow. Apparently they're really going at it. This team is going to be special.
Do you take Butler serious from here on out?
Like Gonzaga-like respect nationally? I think two consecutive runners up finishes merits that type of props. I wish Shelvin Mack would have returned, they'll get into the NCAA from a nice non-conference schedule but might not win the Horizon League this season
Like Gonzaga-like respect nationally? I think two consecutive runners up finishes merits that type of props. I wish Shelvin Mack would have returned, they'll get into the NCAA from a nice non-conference schedule but might not win the Horizon League this season
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bucknuticus
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MrCWS83 said:
Big 10 is weird, theres Ohio State and then a handful of good not great teams.
bucknuticus said:
God that sucked, I was so excited and then god damn heart-break city.
bucknuticus
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ryan-ts said:
I remember I had an exam that day and when i got done I met my buddy at Eddie George's restaurant/bar for the 2nd half and that place went nuts inside when he hit it.
DY_nasty said:
and not to LOL at Rivers sulking? What's wrong with you?
I'm sorry DY_nasty, you're good people but your fanbase was unbearable in 2009 and I think I'd rather piss glass shards than go through that again.
UNC is good no doubt, but not scary good to me like 09. We could not beat the 09 team if they simply didn't want us to. Marshall's very good but he can't beat you off the dribble and you have no real depth at PG (Stillman White?) You have a a very good front court, but even Zeller and Henson don't make me anxious like Beaker. McDonald and Bullock have the ability to shoot from 3, but it hasn't been done consistently. Hard to know what McAdoo and Hairston will do, they have game though. I think we could play our best game and UNC play their best game this year and we have a shot to win. It wasn't happening in 09.
Of course a lot of our success will depend on how long before K wants to wait for Cook to take over. He's not Irving, but he's probably better than anyone we've had since Duhon.
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MrCWS83 said:
I'm looking forward to Creighton this season. Hope to see them win the MVC!
Yup.
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ryan-ts said:
This team is bigger, deeper, and has better leaders than that team did. Plus the league will be down the year.
Amory
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Amory Blaine said:
Ryan Boatright's eligibility in question
Or not. Jesus fucking christ uconn get your shit together.
Pollux
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Article about Terrence Jones' newfound drive and maturity that I was talking about earlier
Also Denny Crum (former Louisville coach) says that UK is one experienced PG away from being able to go undefeated. Thank God we have Twany Beckham eligible in the 2nd half of the season. Kid is quick and has a good basketball IQ.
Not saying we will go undefeated but If we can beat Kansas and UNC, and not screw up on the road in conference play...I would say there's a shot.
Also Denny Crum (former Louisville coach) says that UK is one experienced PG away from being able to go undefeated. Thank God we have Twany Beckham eligible in the 2nd half of the season. Kid is quick and has a good basketball IQ.
Not saying we will go undefeated but If we can beat Kansas and UNC, and not screw up on the road in conference play...I would say there's a shot.
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Spacebar said:All the way this year!
...but no Jamie Skeen.
vas_a_morir said:
I'm from an area of Louisville called Fern Creek, it's right on the Jefferson Co. Bullitt county line. Before anyone says, Louisville this or that, my old man is UK alum. Dem cards get no love in my family! I do personally root for them in non UK games though. Yeah I'm that guy.
I currently reside just minutes south of the UK campus in Lexington, but I'll be moving to TN in the next couple of weeks.- Status