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NeoGAF Creative Writing Challenge #216 - "Energy"

I was hopeful I could get something thrown together last night, but apparently this week has been set aside for exhaustion, and I just fall asleep once I've finished everything I need to have done. If I even accomplish that. Hopefully I'll be more functional next time, though, and I'll try to look through everyone's entries; I'm not about to promise success, though.
Where's your sense of adventure?
Back home on retirement, where it belongs.
I officially give up for this week, no need to wait for me. I really really really need to start earlier next week, which I have said ridiculously often by now, but looking at the sad state of participation record lately it is time for a reevaluation of my work ethic...
I need to try to start when the next challenge opens. Maybe we should hold each other to that start time?
 

Nezumi

Member
I need to try to start when the next challenge opens. Maybe we should hold each other to that start time?

Why not. I'm at the point where I'm willing to try almost everything. Hell, if a mysterious drow lady with her pet monster came along and offered to take away my procrastination for 4000 gp and some dubious favors I'd probably take the deal :D
 
Why not. [...] If a mysterious drow lady with her pet monster came along and offered to take away my procrastination for 4000 gp and some dubious favors I'd probably take the deal
Well, hopefully things don't get to that point than. It sounds kind of shady to me.
 

Alucard

Banned
Well, my right foot is inflamed, so I'm spending the whole day on the couch while my family goes out and does stuff on vacation. Massive feedback and voting post to come in a couple of hours...
 

Cyan

Banned
Ok, well. I'm at about 2000 words and am definitely not finished, but I'm just going to post what I've got anyway. Blargh. Obviously this is like super DQed and nobody has to read it unless they feel like it for some reason.

Channeling

#entry
 

Alucard

Banned
Feedback: ("Give a damn" edition aka "Sorry not sorry" edition)

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"The Albatross' Curse" by LaMagenta - "The year is 1710, and the Republic of Pirates of New Providence in Nassau was thriving." This threw my brain for a loop from the start. Should be "The year was 1710." You also say that Lizzy and Big Brazen were the same age, but Lizzy liked Big Brazen's son. How old are these people?...Are they in their thirties and Cutthroat is...how old? 13? Or maybe they're in their forties and Cutthroat is in his early twenties I guess. The amulet stuff seemed kind of overcomplicated, and I felt lost amidst all the switching between backstories and the main story. Too many names in general for a short story. Why give nicknames when they don't get used? Why mention that Ivory Bones guy at all? I was hoping for a focused story of pirate intrigue, but was left confused by the end. My advice would be to simplify and focus on telling a story with stronger and clearer action. You had a good basis with the love triangle of a father and his son and an older woman. Should've just gone with that. Or told a story about Cutthroat and his men. As is, this is too much packed in too short a space. Sorry, LaMagenta. :(

"Refuel" by Dongs Macabre - "Nobody who has spent much time here would be in as good a mood as yours." I think you needed to show more before this sentence. Before this, there's nothing to tell us that he was jovial or in a good mood. Otherwise, I think you have a good command of grammar and the vocabulary of this world, but the idea only seems half-finished. I didn't feel a punch with the ending or why the narrator would be pissed that the guy who notices the yellow skies knows that invasions are coming...or that he would even believe him in the first place. Still, this was a breeze to read overall.

"A New Hope" by Coffee Express
- Asha's anger at his creation seemed to come out of nowhere when he's showing it to Tom for the first time. The random tense changes also threw me for a loop and pulled me out of the story. "The noise echoes...the alarm does not register...a voice yelled..." Keep it consistent. Stick to the simple past like you've mostly done up to this point. It's confusing to read otherwise. I was interested in the world you were creating here, but the story seemed to run out of steam at the end. The idea is there, but this could have used another 200-300 words or a few stronger sentences near the end to make it stick.

"Livewire" by Ward - I liked this though I was confused by the first line and the use of "him" to describe his shoulder. Otherwise, not much negative to say. Maybe because I'm also sitting on a couch with my leg elevated as I try to deal with inflammation. Good job. The ending felt honest and appropriate too. I liked how you gave all the various angles of your narrator's struggle and mentality.

"a fool's errand" by choodi - Gah! This was getting good! Up to the end, this was probably my favourite thing that you've written. It was so clear and easy to follow, and the characters and action were very easy to follow. I hope you finish it, choodi. Very well-written.

"A Journal from the Ruins of Yeniseysk" by Charade - Can't say I wasn't intrigued. It was somewhat like reading an Edgar Allan Poe story taking place in Russia. With a dash of Frankenstein. I'm not sure what the experiments were exactly, but I enjoyed the clarity of the language and the visit from Aleksei's parents in particular. Nice work.

"Mythos Down" by Mike M - "Exotic matter cannon" made me do a double-take. By the end, all I could think of was saying 'merica! I just enjoy reading your interactions and descriptions, so you could basically be writing about anything and I'd probably find it interesting just because the writing itself is relatively clear and interesting. Assuming you did a bit of research for the first bit discussing alien history. Nice job overall, I'd say. Sorry that I can't give super constructive criticism on this.

"Personal Best" by Tangent - I dug the technology and the back-and-forth with the lead and her SynerMe. I wish the ending had been stronger, though. I thought you were going to say something stronger about the technology you were exploring here. I got a Black Mirror vibe at the beginning, but by the middle, it felt like something that was your own, so good job on that. This was nice and easy to follow, so yay!

"Interview with a Magician" by Ashes - Before even reading it, I loved the title. I thought you hit a nice stride of narration and interesting imagery from the middle to near the end, but then it just kind of...stopped? Still, I always enjoy the experience of reading your short stories, even if the lack of quotation marks irks me to no end. :)

"Babel and the Mystic Battle" by FlowersisBritish - This was pretty fun and I enjoyed the crotchety ghost dad, but the Babel snake part seemed to come out of nowhere. At least for me. Otherwise, your work is always readable. Thank you!

"Untitled" by nitewulf - A bit too much porn in this for my tastes. I got it but didn't get it at the same time. Sorry, nitewulf. :-/ The dialogue was okay, but I just didn't care about the story, and variations on the word "sex" popping up on every page. Just not my bag, but maybe there's an audience out there for this kind of stuff. You're also almost 400 words over the word count.

"Untitled" by frekifox7 - This was cool. I enjoyed your descriptions minus the "wet (something) of pain" line, which seemed weird/awkward. The sensual parts in the beginning were tasteful and didn't feel out of place. Overall, I enjoyed this. Thank you!

Really hard to vote on this one. :-/ I didn't feel like one story REALLY stuck out in this batch as head and shoulders above the rest, but that there were three or four that could have easily gotten my top vote. Here's the best I can come up with...

Votes:

1. Ward
2. Charade
3. Mike M

Honourable mentions: frekifox7, Ashes, Tangent, and choodi. (you'd probably be #1 if you had an ending and didn't run out of space)

Ward's simplicity won me over even if I was totally confused by his first line.
 

choodi

Banned
I wanted to like this, I really did, but too many technical issues with your writing just took me out of the story.

Dongs Macabre - Refuel
That was pretty good. A bit of an abrupt ending, but I liked the concept.

CoffeeExpress - A New Hope
I like the concept, it reminded me of the setup for the TV show The 100. Technical issues are a problem though. You should start a new paragraph when the speaker changes, makes it much easier to follow conversations.

I felt the opening was quite weak, it took too long to get to the meat of the story. It picked up considerably once the conversation started, which felt natural and compelling. I did see the
double/triple cross
coming though, but that didn't diminish my enjoyment. One note, be careful with your metaphors, make sure they make sense and are natural sounding. Some of them felt forced.

Well, that was depressing. Nicely written, nice flow to the narrative. Post career depression of sports stars has been quite prominent in Australian media in the past few years and I thought you captured the thoughts expressed by many of the players quite nicely.

Wonderful stuff, a record of a descent into madness. I love the style of a diary and the inner reflections and "justifications" for what he is doing. I love that there is mystery to the whole story. Beautifully written too. Flowery without sounding silly.

Very polished as usual from you Mike. Very well paced. Cool use of Lovecraft's Cthulhu Mythos.
As a metal fan, totally loved the dig about the genre arguments of metalheads.

Gave me massive flashbacks to Black Mirror/Community episodes, but still, I really liked it. You caused a real sense of panic and anxiety with the internal dialogue.
I really wanted a happy ending though.

I like the inner monologue/unedited thoughts style you've gone for, but I'm not sure you sold me on the story. I wanted more out of the third chapter, something revelatory from the narrator, but in the end I was just left unsatisfied.

Not your best work. Took a long time to not really get anywhere special.

You certainly nailed the theme, it was very energetic, the pace was brisk and while it moved fast, it was pretty easy to follow what was going on. A bit of an anti-climax though as the ending was just flat. Ok, so Dela Cruz picks the wrong girls, so what? What is the lesson for him (and also us) to learn? It would have been stronger if there was a moral to the story I think.

Nice writing, very emotional and descriptive. I was a bit disappointed by the ending, I thought it was a little abrupt and there was no fight from Everly to keep Samuel.


Votes:
1.
Charade
2.
Ward
3.
Mike M

Honourable mention goes to Tangent. It really was a toss-up between you and
Mike
for 3rd, but his was a more complete story.

Ok, well. I'm at about 2000 words and am definitely not finished, but I'm just going to post what I've got anyway. Blargh. Obviously this is like super DQed and nobody has to read it unless they feel like it for some reason.

Channeling

I really liked where this was going. I'm imagining Kiki facing the exam and her stress being the trigger that would suddenly allow her to channel her aether and she would be some sort of prodigy, but would have to learn to control and channel the stress to enable her to use it properly.
 

Alucard

Banned
Choodi, thanks for the feedback. Very useful. I know what you mean about the opening. I just really wanted to start a story with a character hanging off a cliff. :) Regarding the metaphors and similes, it's a constant struggle for me so far. I'll keep working on it. Finally, I was going to have Kalli just leave the cave and have the necromancer seem noble, but I didn't think it was strong enough or packed enough punch, so I flipped it...didn't want the whole discussion to be about the nova stone and then not have the stone actually be used. Chekhov's gun and all that.

Again, thanks. Everything was helpful.
 

LaMagenta

Member
Feedback: ("Give a damn" edition aka "Sorry not sorry" edition)



"The Albatross' Curse" by LaMagenta - "The year is 1710, and the Republic of Pirates of New Providence in Nassau was thriving." This threw my brain for a loop from the start. Should be "The year was 1710." You also say that Lizzy and Big Brazen were the same age, but Lizzy liked Big Brazen's son. How old are these people?...Are they in their thirties and Cutthroat is...how old? 13? Or maybe they're in their forties and Cutthroat is in his early twenties I guess. The amulet stuff seemed kind of overcomplicated, and I felt lost amidst all the switching between backstories and the main story. Too many names in general for a short story. Why give nicknames when they don't get used? Why mention that Ivory Bones guy at all? I was hoping for a focused story of pirate intrigue, but was left confused by the end. My advice would be to simplify and focus on telling a story with stronger and clearer action. You had a good basis with the love triangle of a father and his son and an older woman. Should've just gone with that. Or told a story about Cutthroat and his men. As is, this is too much packed in too short a space. Sorry, LaMagenta. :(
It's ok, I appreciate the feed back. So, I did mention that Big Brazen had been mourning his love (Cutthroat's mother) for 28 years. Cutthroat is 28, parents older. I also mentioned Cutthroat didn't want to marry an "old wench like Lizzy." In my last story, I had too much detail and I guess I went
overboard
on this one too. I will get better, I promise.
 

LaMagenta

Member
I wanted to like this, I really did, but too many technical issues with your writing just took me out of the story.

Hey Choodi, I really want to get better at my writing and if you don't mind, can you please clarify the technical issues my story had? Thanks!
 

Alucard

Banned
It's ok, I appreciate the feed back. So, I did mention that Big Brazen had been mourning his love (Cutthroat's mother) for 28 years. Cutthroat is 28, parents older. I also mentioned Cutthroat didn't want to marry an "old wench like Lizzy." In my last story, I had too much detail and I guess I went
overboard
on this one too. I will get better, I promise.

You're right, you did mention those things. I think because there was so much information, I didn't know what to focus on. It all kind of melded together into story word soup for me at some point.

We're all here to get better, so no worries. I still haven't loved anything I've ever written.
 

Mike M

Nick N
As a metal fan, totally loved the dig about the genre arguments of metalheads.

Most of my music is metal myself, but it's not really a locus of social interaction for me, so I'm spared the genre debating. I hear things, though. Terrible, horrible things.

Listening to Astral Doors as I type.
 

choodi

Banned
Hey Choodi, I really want to get better at my writing and if you don't mind, can you please clarify the technical issues my story had? Thanks!

I'll try to do something this week for you.

Most of my music is metal myself, but it's not really a locus of social interaction for me, so I'm spared the genre debating. I hear things, though. Terrible, horrible things.

Listening to Astral Doors as I type.

I tend to avoid those types of debates myself. Genre wars make console wars look tame by comparison.
 

Mike M

Nick N
  • LaMagenta: Wait, is Calico Jack an actual pirate? I thought that was just something the cat in Octonauts went on about since it was a cat pun. To me, the core of the story was Lizzy’s attempts to bed Cutthroat, but it got short shrift since we spent so much time detailing all this background information that wasn’t particularly relevant to Lizzy’s bamboozlement. Her scam was the interesting part, but it was relegated to only a few paragraphs at the end and rushed to a conclusion.
  • Dongs Macabre: “Radioactive mountains of Curie IV” is a bit on the nose for me. I liked where it was going initially, but the ending kind of fell apart for me since I can’t bring myself to believe that no one else has ever recognized that the sky turns yellow before an invasion/that whatever government exists wouldn’t care about such a definitive sign of imminent invasion. Or that a planet colonized by a space-faring race wouldn’t be able to detect the approach of a fleet well before they got into range. Might work if it were something longer, as a satire piece, maybe?
  • CoffeeExpress: Pretty sure I saw a movie with this title once… Single most useful piece of advice I can give you is to point out that the rule for dialog is that each time the dialog switches speakers, it needs to be a new paragraph. A lot of this was just physically hard to read because the speaker switched back and forth multiple times in a single block of text, which made it very easy to get confused as to who was actually saying what.
  • Alucard: I was wondering where you were going with the whole “necromancer with a heart of gold” route until he started talking about why he was keeping it safe and all that. Even if it truly couldn’t be destroyed, and he was worried about it being dug up, there’re plenty of ways it could be rendered irretrievable, i.e. drop it down a trench in the ocean or something. The fact that he was holding onto it (metaphorically, until literally) at all gave away the game for me before the surprise was sprung in the text.
  • Ward: I don’t think I care enough about sports metaphors/have a strained enough relationship with my wife and kids for this to feel particularly resonant with me. It’s well written though, just seems like it’s a character missing a story to hang it on.
  • choodi: What kind of tea has a smoky aroma? I don’t think I want to be drinking any smoky tea. Even in the context of the story, it’s presented as an unusual thing, but its first mention is just a nonchalant description of it smelling like smoke as though it’s not worthy of further comment. A shame that you didn’t get to finish this one, as I quite liked it. You had some good turns of phrase in there, I particularly liked the one about the queen’s sister being the one who winds the gears of the political machine. Emilia kind of stole the show for me, in part because I found her premise interesting from the start, and in part because Arrianne and Lacania didn’t really have much in the way of development.
  • Charade: The fade to black at the end is fucking killing me. From the title, we can infer something of the outcome of the experiment, and it makes perfect sense that a journal would stop before the event that blew everything up, but man does everything still feel like a huge tease. Like a magic trick that I can’t bear not knowing how is accomplished or something. Maybe a rudimentary framing story around the journal filling in some gaps would help? Idunno.
  • Mike M: The idea for this one has been rattling around in my head for maybe a couple years after I got through the “complete” works of Lovecraft (wasn’t complete, just the stuff in the public domain). Seems like most if not everything people do with the Cthulhu mythos winds up with people going insane or the dead or the world ending or whatever, just thought it would be an interesting thing to explore “what if we were ready and waiting for Cthulhu and beat him?” Most my writing group wasn’t particularly familiar with any of the references : /
  • Tangent: I think I saw someone compare this to Black Mirror as I was scrolling through the thread, and that’s pretty dead on. Specifically, it has a lot of similarities with Nosedive from season 3, which gets a lot of shit but was one of my favorite episodes of that season. It started off interesting enough, but about the time the conversation with Ashok died, so did the momentum. Then it just became “what about him is keeping her here?” without ever actually answer the question for the reader.
  • Ashes: Kind of disappointed that the payoff wasn’t what I was hoping for. I’d have liked to have actually seen the interview with the alleged magician to see what he had to say about it all.
  • FlowersisBritish: There was something about this that just seemed off to me, and I don’t know exactly what. I think maybe so many things were happening in rapid succession it maybe didn’t allow adequate time to breathe or describe much of it? The humor just wasn’t landing with me either. Wasn’t particularly bad or anything, but I think you’ve done better.
  • nitewulf: Everything prior to Dela Cruz waking up isn’t really necessary since the inciting incident is Libby’s dad calling him. The ensuing conversation is kind of contrived though; Dela Cruz is tasked with finding Libby because he was good at finding inanimate objects in college? How is one good at “finding things” anyway? I felt like we were being set up for amatuer detective hijinks, but they never really materialized, and instead they were already on to their second party by 2:30 in the afternoon? Maybe I’m just not familiar with house party culture, but in my experience they’re more evening/nighttime affairs, so the thought of her sneaking out to go to a party in the morning is… weird to me.
  • frekifox7: I already told you what I thought last Friday : )
  • Cyan: Thought this was very similar to what I think was another story of yours; one where someone was training to be a battle mage and eventually just had to come to grips with the fact she sucked and wasn’t cut out for it after her instructor gave her the boot?

Votes:
1. Charade
2. frekifox7
3. Ashes
 

Charade

Member
1. frekifox7 – I’m a sucker for depressing endings. Really felt inside the MC’s head for this one.
2. Tangent – See #1 above. The bit with Ashok not talking felt a bit drawn out but I see what you were going for.
3. Mike – I’m also a sucker for Cthulhu. The little bit that implied time-travel/precognition (I think?) was neat.
HM: choodi – this world felt very well realized despite not having a lot of backstory/worldbuilding given. I think it was the language and the sense of characters. Too bad about the ending, it probably could’ve gone another 1k+ words for the whole heist.

Charade: The fade to black at the end is fucking killing me. From the title, we can infer something of the outcome of the experiment, and it makes perfect sense that a journal would stop before the event that blew everything up, but man does everything still feel like a huge tease. Like a magic trick that I can’t bear not knowing how is accomplished or something. Maybe a rudimentary framing story around the journal filling in some gaps would help? Idunno.

Secret ending: Cthulhu popped out of the portal but luckily we were armed with some exotic matter cannons.

In my headcanon I would say the narrator got played, and bad things came out. A frame story around the journal is an interesting idea. Or maybe this just being a prologue or something like that. Great feedback, as always!
 

Mike M

Nick N
The little bit that implied time-travel/precognition (I think?) was neat.

That was the ruins of the Great Race of Yith from The Shadow Out of Time. Also pulled from The Shadow Over Innsmouth (Innsmouth reference, naturally), At the Mountains of Madness (The Elder Things in Antarctica), and The Whisperer in Darkness (The fungoid Mi-go from planet Yuggoth).
 

choodi

Banned
choodi: What kind of tea has a smoky aroma? I don't think I want to be drinking any smoky tea. Even in the context of the story, it's presented as an unusual thing, but its first mention is just a nonchalant description of it smelling like smoke as though it's not worthy of further comment. A shame that you didn't get to finish this one, as I quite liked it. You had some good turns of phrase in there, I particularly liked the one about the queen's sister being the one who winds the gears of the political machine. Emilia kind of stole the show for me, in part because I found her premise interesting from the start, and in part because Arrianne and Lacania didn't really have much in the way of development.

Russian Caravan and Lapsang Souchong both have a smoky flavour. You should try them, but make sure you add a dash of milk.

HM: choodi – this world felt very well realized despite not having a lot of backstory/worldbuilding given. I think it was the language and the sense of characters. Too bad about the ending, it probably could've gone another 1k+ words for the whole heist.

I must confess that I originally planned it as a part of the same world that I created for the last challenge, so the characters and setting were already well-formed in my head. I changed it on my second draft to see if it would help with getting under the word limit, but that obviously didn't work.

As for the ending,
I was thinking that Lacania was aware that Arrianne was trying to steal the item and has drugged her. Lacania was then going to reveal that there was nothing to steal and that her mission was all a scam of Emilia to flush out some sort of informer. Something like that anyway.
 

Tangent

Member
No, I haven't finished reading yet... and I'm working on a huge assignment due tonight. I'm actually 90% done I think, but I still need to finish it before I get back to stories...

Tangent: I think I saw someone compare this to Black Mirror as I was scrolling through the thread, and that's pretty dead on. Specifically, it has a lot of similarities with Nosedive from season 3, which gets a lot of shit but was one of my favorite episodes of that season. It started off interesting enough, but about the time the conversation with Ashok died, so did the momentum. Then it just became ”what about him is keeping her here?" without ever actually answer the question for the reader.

Wow, I am seeing a lot of references to Black Mirror. I just asked my neighbor -- who is here -- what it is. Then I looked it up: "Featuring stand-alone dramas -- sharp, suspenseful, satirical tales that explore techno-paranoia -- 'Black Mirror' is a contemporary reworking of 'The Twilight Zone' with stories that tap into the collective unease about the modern world." HELLO?! This sounds amazing and why haven't I heard more about it?! I will check it out. It sounds right up my alley except for that I love the modern world and would not want to go back to an earlier time. I think that's insanity. If anything, I want to go to the future. Not the past.

But I think it's a compliment if my story reminds people of a show that seems to be pretty good. Right? Yay.

OK ANYway..... yeah, I didn't know what to do about Ashok. He was really weird, like inhumanly weird, which made him a little unbelievable of a character. I thought of having two parallel stories happening where you could read what both Renee's and Ashok's SynerMe's were saying -- with two columns, side-by-side. But I thought that would lose perspective, and I wanted to get a bit of Renee's freakout, trying to think for herself for a brief second and then eventually finding herself unable to, and so driven for points. I also wanted to somehow bring out more of a parable... I think we already live in a world where we are always trying to optimize our time, and we just don't have the technology yet to do so in a targeted, "error-less" way, that can push aside our internal dialog that considers many other factors and can sometimes make us "lazy" or "off-task" or lose track of time.

Thanks for the feedback everyone!
 

Charade

Member
That was the ruins of the Great Race of Yith from The Shadow Out of Time. Also pulled from The Shadow Over Innsmouth (Innsmouth reference, naturally), At the Mountains of Madness (The Elder Things in Antarctica), and The Whisperer in Darkness (The fungoid Mi-go from planet Yuggoth).

Ah, my mythos cred is lacking! Though I have read 2/4 of those since also getting one of those complete collections on my kindle a while ago. Didn't realize it's probably not complete. Goddamn false advertising.

As for the ending,
I was thinking that Lacania was aware that Arrianne was trying to steal the item and has drugged her. Lacania was then going to reveal that there was nothing to steal and that her mission was all a scam of Emilia to flush out some sort of informer. Something like that anyway.

Interesting, I would not have seen that coming.
 

choodi

Banned
No, I haven't finished reading yet... and I'm working on a huge assignment due tonight. I'm actually 90% done I think, but I still need to finish it before I get back to stories...



Wow, I am seeing a lot of references to Black Mirror. I just asked my neighbor -- who is here -- what it is. Then I looked it up: "Featuring stand-alone dramas -- sharp, suspenseful, satirical tales that explore techno-paranoia -- 'Black Mirror' is a contemporary reworking of 'The Twilight Zone' with stories that tap into the collective unease about the modern world." HELLO?! This sounds amazing and why haven't I heard more about it?! I will check it out. It sounds right up my alley except for that I love the modern world and would not want to go back to an earlier time. I think that's insanity. If anything, I want to go to the future. Not the past.

But I think it's a compliment if my story reminds people of a show that seems to be pretty good. Right? Yay.

OK ANYway..... yeah, I didn't know what to do about Ashok. He was really weird, like inhumanly weird, which made him a little unbelievable of a character. I thought of having two parallel stories happening where you could read what both Renee's and Ashok's SynerMe's were saying -- with two columns, side-by-side. But I thought that would lose perspective, and I wanted to get a bit of Renee's freakout, trying to think for herself for a brief second and then eventually finding herself unable to, and so driven for points. I also wanted to somehow bring out more of a parable... I think we already live in a world where we are always trying to optimize our time, and we just don't have the technology yet to do so in a targeted, "error-less" way, that can push aside our internal dialog that considers many other factors and can sometimes make us "lazy" or "off-task" or lose track of time.

Thanks for the feedback everyone!

Holy shit, if you have never even heard about black Mirror, then season 3 episode 1 is going to blow your mind!
 

Mike M

Nick N
Black Mirror is utterly fantastic when it's on its game. Some episodes are less great than others, but some are scarily prescient. The National Anthem is particularly damning, and The Waldo Moment is retroactively elevated from "weakest season 1 episode" to "OMFG, this actually kind of happened."
 

FlowersisBritish

fleurs n'est pas britannique
Black Mirror is utterly fantastic when it's on its game. Some episodes are less great than others, but some are scarily prescient. The National Anthem is particularly damning, and The Waldo Moment is retroactively elevated from "weakest season 1 episode" to "OMFG, this actually kind of happened."

Actually a season 2 episode but yeah, Black Mirror is great. Me and my GF recently finished watching it and hot damn that's good sci-fi. I think the focus on the evolution of social media is what really elevates it in comparison to other sci-fi stuff.
 

Tangent

Member
Wow I can't wait to get into it. Also, I can't believe you guys can talk about episodes with numbers and names, and with such specificity. Weird.
 

FlowersisBritish

fleurs n'est pas britannique
Wow I can't wait to get into it. Also, I can't believe you guys can talk about episodes with numbers and names, and with such specificity. Weird.

Black Mirror, despite having three seasons, is actually really short (but also not really? Each episode is about an hour). The first season has three episodes, and season two has four.
 

Alucard

Banned
Wow I can't wait to get into it. Also, I can't believe you guys can talk about episodes with numbers and names, and with such specificity. Weird.

If you don't want people to ask what the hell you're watching, and if you want to keep your stomach, DON'T start with season one episode one. Just start with season three. The first episode is fantastic in that one and lines up with your story.

If you do decide to watch from the start, I suggest watching the first episode alone if the other people in your life aren't as...open-minded?...as you are. It's one of the most memorable television episodes ever, but it's...it's heavy. And people will think you're a freak for watching it if an older aunt or someone steps into the room while you're watching it.
 

choodi

Banned
If you don't want people to ask what the hell you're watching, and if you want to keep your stomach, DON'T start with season one episode one. Just start with season three. The first episode is fantastic in that one and lines up with your story.

If you do decide to watch from the start, I suggest watching the first episode alone if the other people in your life aren't as...open-minded?...as you are. It's one of the most memorable television episodes ever, but it's...it's heavy. And people will think you're a freak for watching it if an older aunt or someone steps into the room while you're watching it.

Good advice.

While this might sound like strange advice, remember that each episode is a self-contained story so it doesn't matter where you start.
 

FlowersisBritish

fleurs n'est pas britannique
And are there really people who didn't like "Nosedive"? It's one of my favourite Black Mirror episodes.

I get why people wouldn't like Nosedive because it is a much lighter tone than the previous episodes in almost every regard. I personally like it because it gears you upnfor season 3 being not as dark as the previous which i think is a good thing.
 

LaMagenta

Member
My votes:

1. Tangent - very clever story. Kind of sad to think that the world is going toward a reality like that.
2. Dongs Macabre - Love the sci-fi-fi story, great character development.
3. Alucard - I like the twist at the end.

Great job everyone.
 

LaMagenta

Member
  • LaMagenta: Wait, is Calico Jack an actual pirate? I thought that was just something the cat in Octonauts went on about since it was a cat pun. To me, the core of the story was Lizzy's attempts to bed Cutthroat, but it got short shrift since we spent so much time detailing all this background information that wasn't particularly relevant to Lizzy's bamboozlement. Her scam was the interesting part, but it was relegated to only a few paragraphs at the end and rushed to a conclusion.


  • Yes, Calico Jack is a real guy/pirate! He is the one who created the famous Jolly Roger - the common pirate flag you see
    Pirate_Flag_of_Jack_Rackham.svg


    Edit:: what is this Octonauts? I love cats. must have been a story i missed.
 

FlowersisBritish

fleurs n'est pas britannique
I wasnt' planning on doing comments but then i said, what the hell, the doznes of other things I need to do can wait.

Flowersisme - Babel and the bladie blah: Wasn't going to do one of these, but I had to mention that I got a chuckle at people telling me this wasn't my strongest story because I often look back on my old stuff and my early challenge stories were awful. Going to echo what Alucard said, we're all here to get better and no one starts out great. Except for Mike, or so I'm told :p

Ashes - Interview with a magician: I don't think your usual style really gelled with this story. The beginning was a bit hard to follow with you doing things like ”My editor, he said, Something something something" where it takes the reader a second take to really understand what the sentence was trying to do. This is one of those cases of the most interesting part of the story being tossed in the background, which I get is the point to some extent, but I really enjoyed the story and mystery behind the magician and it never goes anywhere outside of the personal internal thoughts of the MC. There were a lot of good bits, I particularly liked the dream sequence, the old couple dancing (and the MC later dancing himself), and even though I don't think it worked, i did like what you were trying with the ending.

Nitewulf - Always the Wrong Girl: I thought your dialogues was pretty good throughout. I really liked the D-Dawg bit and all the various cues and descriptions outside of that dialogue too. I'd think a bit about how you handle scene transitions because often they would come and I'd find them jarring and get a little lost. The roughest one was in the beginning by far with Libby. There were fun bits throughout (I liked ”the fucker" gag) I just got more than a little lost as to what was going on.

Frexifox - To Have and To Keep: Great start, but I don't think you really needed to begin with ”Do you love me?" It gives it a very needless inmediares kinda feeling that doesn't work because you don't return from their first meeting to that initial scene (technically we do, but you have a line break and it comes back at a really awkward point that doesn't benefit the story). That outburst of ”Me!" seems very sudden and out of character for Sam(He struck me as more quiet and reserved, less shouty shout) and I don't quite know if that's on purpose or not? Everly didn't really react to it as something surprising, so I don't know? By the end, I really enjoyed this. I super love that their love wasn't pure enough, and the form of pure love Sam chose was to be a cat loved by a child. I think that is such a great way to end it. I also really loved how you can see Everly's unhealthy obsession in her narration without anyone outright calling her out on it.

Ward - Livewire: You got me to care about baseball and while it is one of the sports I kinda like, I still really hate most sports. So mad props to you for accomplishing the impossible. I think what I liked most about it was the concept; its a really interesting idea of what goes on in the mind of a sports player on the verge or retirement. You really sold me on his life and the fear that exists in not knowing which game is his last. I think the best part for me was the bit about building a gym.

LaMagenta - Albatrosses Curse: This is tough to judge for me as a story. It's very on point with its style and it really does feel like I'm listening to some sailors tell this story below a deck or something. It has a sort of ramblyness a lot of spoke stories tend to have. While it's engaging to me, there are a lot of names to keep track of in quick order. But that criticism comes with its own problem because that's very much in they style this story is going for, and actually the quick names and events does help it. That said, i did lose track of who's who near the midpoint. Just a lot of characters in this story doing a lot of things. By the end of this, I really loved the style, just wished I didn't lose track as to what was going on. Also small thing: If Cutthroat is superstitious, why kill the bird? Is there superstition about taunting birds?

Charade - A Journal from the Ruins of Yeniseysk: Welcome back Charade! Really strong returning story too! I wasn't feeling this at the start tbh. But that's fine because it mirrors the MC own descent into madness. It starts off innocent, if a little arrogant, and the general progression into murder for his science (I love how you never outright say it, though you come close) is very natural. I also love the symetry you have between your beginning and ending. There was also a lot of damn fine writing. It didn't resonate with me enough for first though for some reason? Maybe because we don't exactly know what the device is, or the set up downstairs? I don't know.

Dongs Macabre - refuel: Welcome to the writing challenges. Hope you stick around because this wasn't bad. I have two bits of general advice. One, try and begin lines with dialogue with the dialogue, and then break it up with an action or a chuckle or whatever (you only really needed to do that in the beginning though, the rest was fine), and second bit is feel free to experiment a bunch. Be super descriptive, be sparse, spread out your wings and find what style you have the most fun with. Some more specific stuff for your story: a lot of your MC's central motivations revolve around the invasion of Lishi, but we don't know anything about it outside of it has a yellow sky(which apparently isn't even normal there). Its tough to form an emotional attachment when we don't know about a place, and thus can't emphasize with the MC's motivations. You could try simply adding more descriptions of Lishi, telling stories about the MC's history in Lishi, or even have him do a little side adventure in Lishi to let us get an idea of what the people living there were like. Hope you keep writing!

CoffeeExpress - A New Hope: I'm giving you props for pushing this out. I know that can be super tough, but good job on persevering and finishing this up. I'll keep this light with one vital bit of advice. Breaking up your paragraphs with multiple bits of dialogue will do wonders for your readability. You've got good ideas in here, just, like you said, a bit messy.

Tangent - Personal Best: Kay so I started reading this after all the Black Mirror talk and holy crap the unintended parallels are astounding. Which is a good thing because Black Mirror is nothing but good ideas which means you're obviously a good idea person :p I really loved how the technology here is used in an (awkward) date. I love how the conflict between her and the device and the device progressively freaking out more and more for not handling this date in the ”Optimal" way. I was smiling most of the way through (especially the chemistry bit, that part was delightful). I wasn't fond of your ending though. The score depletion seemed horrifyingly quick, and her attitude once it went below 80 felt like a total character flip.

Alucard - Ageless Wonders: You are proving to be very good at these fantasy romps. Everything in this was good, from the writing to the dialogue to the actions. I know I said this before, but your stories feel like good classic fantasy adventures. There were a couple things that did irk me though. It was very obvious how the stone worked to me, as the reader, the moment the necromancer started talking in riddles, and thus a little frustrating how it took the MC longer than me to figure out something as obvious as the stone taking life to extend it. Though i didn't realize it require two people to touch, or that specifically the younger one dies. That bit of detail was good, and I did like the necromancer suddenly killing her at the end.

Chodi - A Fools Errand: Like Alucard said, a lot of really good and clear action. Usually stuff that relies entirely on actions like your later half run the high risk of dragging but you did a really good job of avoiding it. Like everyone said, it's a shame you didn't have a chance to finish this, but hey sometimes we come up with eyes that don't fit into our rather tight word counts. I know I've been there.

Mike M - Mythos Down: Mike, this is all fine and dandy, but when are you going to answer Tangent's important question? Did you draw that sexy turtle or not? Anyways, the story: I feel like, even though you did a good job of introducing the ideas, you need a pretty familiar knowledge of Lovecraft to appreciate this. Without it, it is easy to get lost. I'm more than somewhat familiar with Lovecraft and even I got a bit lost in all of your lore and world building. When this started, I was not quite expecting Starship Troopers meets Lovecraft, but ya know? It kinda works? In a universe where humans are constantly at prey to the mere sight of old gods, there is a weird satisfaction in blowing them to shit with the message ”We are not to be fucked with."

Cyan - Channeling: That brief description of Kiki's room is really strong. This is kind of weird, but this doesn't feel rushed at all, and because it doesn't feel rushed it feels very careful, and because it feels very careful, all of your dialogues and descriptions are landing a lot better than your recent stories. That said, still some hang ups. For example: even though their both students, why is Kiki explaining Aether exhaustion? Shouldn't Maya know about it? This is going to be a weird comment, but follow me for a second: I think this would work a lot better in first person. A lot of your narration is very personable to Maya ("Kiki's.... just trying to help.") and I think if it was in first person, then that would help put us into Maya's headspace even better and flow a lot smoother with your personable narrations. Just a thought.




Votes!!!:
1. Fexifox
2. Charade
3. Ward (It was a huge toss up between you and Charade)

Hm: Tangent. This was going to place my second (maybe even my first) but that ending really didn't work for me.
 

LaMagenta

Member
I wasnt' planning on doing comments but then i said, what the hell, the doznes of other things I need to do can wait.


LaMagenta - Albatrosses Curse: This is tough to judge for me as a story. It’s very on point with its style and it really does feel like I’m listening to some sailors tell this story below a deck or something. It has a sort of ramblyness a lot of spoke stories tend to have. While it’s engaging to me, there are a lot of names to keep track of in quick order. But that criticism comes with its own problem because that’s very much in they style this story is going for, and actually the quick names and events does help it. That said, i did lose track of who’s who near the midpoint. Just a lot of characters in this story doing a lot of things. By the end of this, I really loved the style, just wished I didn’t lose track as to what was going on. Also small thing: If Cutthroat is superstitious, why kill the bird? Is there superstition about taunting birds?

You totally get me!!! I was trying to make it sound like a random sailor was telling the story which is why my writing seemed to have a lot of technical errors, but it was done purposefully. I will need to research a little more on how to get that right because I confused a lot of readers. Maybe have less characters in it. As I was writing I had imagined a completely different ending with some of the earlier characters, but then the story took me where it took me. And yes, I thought about Cutthroat's superstitiousness and killing the bird, but at that point I think I got lazy and just wanted to kill the damn bird.
 

Alucard

Banned
Think we're still waiting for votes from...

Ashes
Tangent
Ward
CoffeeExpress

Looks like Charade's challenge to lose at the moment. Will these four game breakers turn the tide?
 

Tangent

Member
Aw crap, I forgot last night was the last night to submit votes while I was working on coursework. Shoot! I think I'm DNQ'd. Sorry about my late notification on that. I am going out of town to the middle of nowhere, hopefully, to do next-to-nothing and I hope I can finish up reading then. Carry on without me!

Edit:
OK voting now after all, but if it's too late, you can ignore these votes:
1. Charade
2. Alucard
3. Mike M
hm. Frekifox -- this story really grew on me as I read on, which was a pleasant surprise.


Tangent - Personal Best: Kay so I started reading this after all the Black Mirror talk and holy crap the unintended parallels are astounding. Which is a good thing because Black Mirror is nothing but good ideas which means you're obviously a good idea person :p I really loved how the technology here is used in an (awkward) date. I love how the conflict between her and the device and the device progressively freaking out more and more for not handling this date in the ”Optimal" way. I was smiling most of the way through (especially the chemistry bit, that part was delightful). I wasn't fond of your ending though. The score depletion seemed horrifyingly quick, and her attitude once it went below 80 felt like a total character flip.

Hm: Tangent. This was going to place my second (maybe even my first) but that ending really didn't work for me.

Thanks for the feedback. I wonder how I could have made her response to the awkwardness and especially her SynerMe a bit more explicit. This is what I was trying to go for: the notion that she felt some interest in this guy, even though it couldn't be explained logically. It was something that couldn't be captured in an algorithm and her device was telling her that it was a waste of time. Now, she had a fleeting moment of raw human nature, but she's spent her entire life not thinking for herself. People have the device neurally implanted at birth. So, it'd be very unnatural to ignore this raging voice in her head telling her to quit it, and also, to ignore the addictive lure of the points. In a sense, there is no character flip, because she hasn't had a chance to develop any character -- outside of what SynerMe thinks is appropriate for her -- or really, any free will of her own. If you have any ideas of how I could make that more apparent, please let me know!

If you don't want people to ask what the hell you're watching, and if you want to keep your stomach, DON'T start with season one episode one. Just start with season three. The first episode is fantastic in that one and lines up with your story.

If you do decide to watch from the start, I suggest watching the first episode alone if the other people in your life aren't as...open-minded?...as you are. It's one of the most memorable television episodes ever, but it's...it's heavy. And people will think you're a freak for watching it if an older aunt or someone steps into the room while you're watching it.

Wow you're giving me too much credit. I may not be as open-minded as you think. I might be that older aunt myself. I think, ever since I have had a kid, and had a job that can be emotionally draining at times, I tend to veer towards lighter things... and especially not anything that has to do with sexual violence towards anyone or physical violence towards kids or animals. *vomit*

On a different note, I've been hoping to find an idea that captures my interest enough so that I can flush it out into a longer piece, like a novel. This "device" idea is one of those plots that I'm getting attached to. There is a whole lot more I could explore. However, it seems like the whole thing has been done on this show! Darn! Having said that, every idea is a stolen idea, whether we know it or not. So maybe it'd be OK, anyway.... hmm....
 

Alucard

Banned
Tangent, DEFINITELY don't watch the very first episode. Season 3 episode 1 is where you want to go. Most of the show has a much harder edge to it, but this one is creepy in a whole different way, and it's watchable for old aunties. :)
 

Mike M

Nick N
Edit:: what is this Octonauts? I love cats. must have been a story i missed.
A kid's show where they go around saving ocean creatures. Seeing as how I once upon a time was going to go into marine biology (and even still, my zoology degree was mostly marine stuff), I approve of it most heartily. One of the characters is a cat wearing an eyepatch (even though he has both eyes...) going on about his grandpa Calico Jack.

Mike M - Mythos Down: Mike, this is all fine and dandy, but when are you going to answer Tangent's important question? Did you draw that sexy turtle or not?

You don't get closure.
 
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