Freshmaker
I am Korean.
It's good to hear those 30-50GB downloads will be instant....
Yes. Them using the term "instant" with anything that requires more downloading always makes me cringe.
It's good to hear those 30-50GB downloads will be instant....
That's not how it works.
We do automatically sync Save Games and Upload clips, so there is no need for storage management on that - it's all in the cloud.
For full downloads and Aps we do NOT automatically delete anything. You get a prompt when you run out of space, and you can manually uninstall what you want.
Keep in mind, external storage support is coming post-launch. This is a short-term issue we know needs to get better, but just for clarity we don't auto-delete anything.
what? in iOS you manage your own storage.
Why would you lose them? They are backed up to the cloud. That is the very opposite of losing them. There is more chance of your console HDD corrupting than the cloud servers losing them. If anything the cloud servers will be backed up regularly by MS in case they need to restore for any reason.
You can compare this to android vs ios approach. Android let's you and even sometimes expects you to micromanage your storage. iOS on the otherhand walls you off. The rationale behind iOS is that you shouldn't have to worry about your usage as data is constantly flowing up into the "cloud" to free up local storage.
Their attitude throughout this new generation is just disgusting.
That's not how it works.
We do automatically sync Save Games and Upload clips, so there is no need for storage management on that - it's all in the cloud.
For full downloads and Aps we do NOT automatically delete anything. You get a prompt when you run out of space, and you can manually uninstall what you want.
Keep in mind, external storage support is coming post-launch. This is a short-term issue we know needs to get better, but just for clarity we don't auto-delete anything.
This is the key question.Wait, are they saying that if your connection is down or of their servers have issues, your games can't save or load?
So something like this exist in the X1 OS?
Yes you can. The only thing you can't see is the amount of storage available on the HDD. You can manually delete things, and when (if) you run out of space you manually delete to make room. We don't just start deleting things.
We went with user-upgradable external storage vs. internal replaceable. That feature is coming after launch, and at that point there will likely be more sophisticated storage management.
Can I access my saved games offline?
Not to the granularity that Android provides. Android OS provides info on what within the application is taking up space and allows you to clear the cache for the app or uninstall the whole thing, vs iOS just allowing you to view the total space taken up and uninstall the whole thing. So yeah, if this doesn't allow you to view how much space is being taken up, it's similar to iOS storage management compared to Android, but not quite the same.
Yeah, they need to just come out and clarify if we can still access our saves offline. It seems so silly to even have to ask that question over something that should be a given. Yet, here we are left wondering.
Penello didn't mention disc based game install management at all so his clarification is inadequate.
It should be obvious, despite what MS says about it, that the reason this isn't present is that there just wasn't time to finish the feature. I'd bet good money it will be added in time.
"Ps4 will have drm too.."Giant Bomb was complaining about the same thing. I don't think the PS4 is any better, either.
just asked albert about saving games.
If you are offline, games will save to the hdd and then when you are back online the saves will sync to the 'cloud'
Yeah, but not really. It would be the same if I couldn't manage my storage on iOS at all and it started deleting my apps, pics and music and I had to redownload them if I wanted to access them again.
Wait, so how do you manage that stuff if your Xbone is not connected to the Cloud?
just asked albert about saving games.
If you are offline, games will save to the hdd and then when you are back online the saves will sync to the 'cloud'
Because it's the same as downloaded game install management.
Ok, so what if you are never online? You know, the whole thing they patched out of the Xbox One due to the backlash?
Can we manage those saves?
Those saves would still be on your HDD?
Then what happens when you start running out of room?
Did the MS guy say above that when you do run out of room you get an option to delete things, which I assume is their form of management.
It's still not adequate IMO.
"Ps4 will have drm too.."
You guys got me. I'm a big MS apologist!Go on, keep spreading the fud.
Not being able to access your save files offline is god awful. It sounds like some stuff is still locked behind the "always online" functionality and needs to be patched later on.
The PS4 lets you transfer save files (Application Data) to USB.
You can drill down and see how big games are on the drive as well.
So you can copy individual game saves to USB? OK I didn't realize that.Umm... ps4
games saves are in application save data IIRC
EDIT:
Wait ....
So, lets say I play tons of forza, then I stop playing and buy and play other 10 games.
Then 6 months later I get an itch to do some quick laps in Forza, I plug in my wheel and turn on the box...
The Xbox need to download the whole game again, right???
Absolutely ridiculous
Thanks for clearing things up a bit. Still find it a bit silly that there isn't a menu that has a storage breakdown like the Xbox 360.
So xbl Silver get cloud save sync free?
So how do game saves work offline?
Ok this is really confusing. If someone can answer my question I'll be really grateful.
If I save my game for the last time and then connect to the cloud, the save data gets uploaded. What happens to my offline save data? What if I don't connect to the internet again? Will I still have access to the save file?
just asked albert about saving games.
If you are offline, games will save to the hdd and then when you are back online the saves will sync to the 'cloud'