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[Superfrog]

Looks awesome, can't wait!

I don't care about the slight aliasing, but what bothers me a little bit is the missing self-shadowing. This (and getting the lighting done right) is something that adds so much to the graphics. Especially the AWACS aircraft looks really dull without any shadowing (AC6 screenshot mirrored for comparison):

 

[pooteeweet]

It's true there is a lot of aliasing in the in-game shots, but it may well look better when it gets released, and it probably looks much better in motion right now. People concerned about the lack of next-gen increase need to realize this is the first AC game that's ever had an online component.

 

[Metalmurphy]

OMG

Guess i'm gonna have to get a 360 sooner then expected, i won't be able to wait for the PS3 release.


My wallet is hurting badly now ;(

 

[jett]

Looks awesome, can't wait!

I don't care about the slight aliasing, but what bothers me a little bit is the missing self-shadowing. This (and getting the lighting done right) is something that adds so much to the graphics. Especially the AWACS aircraft looks really dull without any shadowing (AC6 screenshot mirrored for comparison):

This is something you'll have to live with. In the AC games, the only detailed aircraft with complex shadowing and lighting is your own. Everything else uses a noticeably downgraded model. Looks like it's not changing in AC6. On the plus side, when you're busy breaking the sound barrier you don't really notice this shit in the game.

 

[Crypto]

I wonder if the self shadowing is only on the player planes now, one of the new shots actually has some, but it's light.

 

[M3d10n]

I wonder if the self shadowing is only on the player planes now, one of the new shots actually has some, but it's light.

I think those are part of the painting, which might look like shadows from some angles, not actual shadows.

Lacking self-shadows is a bit sad, since a flight sim is arguably the genre where they should be the easiest to implement: It's always outdoors, so you only need to care about the sun. Also, there's hardly more than 2 models very close to the camera, and they'll rarely be close enough to shadow each other, so independent shadow buffers per model (allocated to the planes closest to the camera) aren't a problem.

I think that this, along with other things, kinda shows that Namco hasn't really grasped next-gen techniques yet. They're almost applying PS2 concepts with more leg room.

 

[Crypto]

I think those are part of the painting, which might look like shadows from some angles, not actual shadows.

Lacking self-shadows is a bit sad, since a flight sim is arguably the genre where they should be the easiest to implement: It's always outdoors, so you only need to care about the sun. Also, there's hardly more than 2 models very close to the camera, and they'll rarely be close enough to shadow each other, so independent shadow buffers per model (allocated to the planes closest to the camera) aren't a problem.

I think that this, along with other things, kinda shows that Namco hasn't really grasped next-gen techniques yet. They're almost applying PS2 concepts with more leg room.

Ace Combat 4 on PS2 actually had self shadowing, so I doubt this game will fully lack it at least.

The shot I'm talking about is http://images.xboxyde.com/gallery/public/5477/1228_0003.jpg

I think that is self shadowing.

 

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

And again, the old images for comparison:

Hello Google Earth images of Mt. St. Helens! Glad to see you make an appearance in this AC6 thread.

 

[andthebeatgoeson]

This is something you'll have to live with. In the AC games, the only detailed aircraft with complex shadowing and lighting is your own. Everything else uses a noticeably downgraded model. Looks like it's not changing in AC6. On the plus side, when you're busy breaking the sound barrier you don't really notice this shit in the game.

Makes sense, you don't ever get that close to see all those details. If they make some concessions to increase your plane's detail by decreasing the detail of a plane I'll either blow up with a missle from a quarter mile away, then I'm all for it. 2, if the ground textures look bad while flying '50 feet above ground', then that's ok, because I'm not usually flying 50 feet above ground.

Look at that, it's fricken beautiful.

 

[SonnyBoy]

Most of the time I'm close to the ground once the normal mechanics of the game start to bore me. I start to fly in between buildings and under bridges and thats when I start to yearn for more actual at the lower level. Nothing against AC, that's just me.

 

[Jamesfrom818]

I just always wanted to dive down into a city, fly past a bunch of skyscrapers and use them as cover to get someone off my ass.

 

[Crypto]

I just always wanted to dive down into a city, fly past a bunch of skyscrapers and use them as cover to get someone off my ass.

Since AC isn't a strongly realism based game, they should do things like this, it would be awesome.

 

[Xdrive05]

Hello Google Earth images of Mt. St. Helens! Glad to see you make an appearance in this AC6 thread.

So glad to be here, Hitler. Thank you for the warm welcome.

 

[camineet]

if there was only ONE game I could get this year, AC6 would be the one

 

[KingJ2002]

great looking screens... this game should look amazing in motion.

 

[Patrick Bateman]

The ground-textures look like they were stolen from Google Earth. And this is meant to be serious.

The planes look hot.

 

[Gek54]

My eyes watered just a little with this screen.

 

[kassatsu]

Way too much shit in that hud. During a landing sequence I don't need to see all of that other stuff.

 

[Christoff Yurievich]

So glad to be here, Hitler. Thank you for the warm welcome.

so you posted those Mt. St. Helens pictures on purpose? wth for?

 

[MickeyKnox]

So glad to be here, Hitler. Thank you for the warm welcome.

Get the **** outa here with that shit, seriously.

 

[Dina]

Oh man, QAAM, AM-RAAM. This is like Retal(iation).exe all over again.

 

[Jube3]

Man online co-op with friends is gonna be a blast. Cant wait for this one. This fall is gonna hurt the wallet yet again -_-

 

[Das-J]

Way too much shit in that hud. During a landing sequence I don't need to see all of that other stuff.

Agreed, that screen is entirely too busy... give the player some focus for ****'s sake! Still, this looks awesome and will be a day 1 PStripple purchase!

 

[Crypto]

Way too much shit in that hud. During a landing sequence I don't need to see all of that other stuff.

I'm amazed the game even has landing sequences.

HUD is pretty nice IMO.

blue squares allied points, green and red are targets, ammo on right, damaged to the left of it. squad speak and radar on left. target cam top left, extra tutorial text top center...

Really I wouldn't want any less than that.

 

[ElectricBlue187]

every freakin time I convince myself I'm not going to buy this game you guys post awesome screens like this to make me want it again...when is it coming out?

 

[Metalmurphy]

I'm amazed the game even has landing sequences.

HUD is pretty nice IMO.

blue squares allied points, green and red are targets, ammo on right, damaged to the left of it. squad speak and radar on left. target cam top left, extra tutorial text top center...

Really I wouldn't want any less than that.

Ever played an Ace Combat game?

The game even has mid-air refuelling sequences now.

 

[Superfrog]

Ace Combat 4 on PS2 actually had self shadowing, so I doubt this game will fully lack it at least.

The shot I'm talking about is http://images.xboxyde.com/gallery/public/5477/1228_0003.jpg

I think that is self shadowing.

Well spotted, it indeed looks like self-shadowing. Also in this screenshot. It seems to be lacking in various other screens, though. I guess we will have to wait for the first trailer/video.

Btw, I will play the game from cockpit view anyway, it's just nitpicking.

 

[Flo_Evans]

Namco continues to impress...

looks like the PS2 version running in HD. 60fps I hope at least? Ah well online should be awsome.

 

[Ether_Snake]

Looks awesome, can't wait!

I don't care about the slight aliasing, but what bothers me a little bit is the missing self-shadowing. This (and getting the lighting done right) is something that adds so much to the graphics. Especially the AWACS aircraft looks really dull without any shadowing (AC6 screenshot mirrored for comparison):

The heck? What's up with next-gen games and lack of selfshadows?:/

EDIT: Yeah I also always play in cockpit view and they improved it this time around (you can even see your knees).

BTW the HUD screen above is not a landing sequence at all.

 

[Crypto]

Ever played an Ace Combat game?

The game even has mid-air refuelling sequences now.

Last I played was 4, before that 1, I think.

None of those games had anything like that.

 

[MickeyKnox]

The smoke looks so ****ing awesome, it's not really important but I wonder if it's interactive in any way/ like if you fly through it doing mach 1+ if there will be any dispersal? That's not a realistic expectation as that would be a pretty intensive calculation to add to the engine but maybe in the next iteration of the game we can see something like this:

 

[Metalmurphy]

Last I played was 4, before that 1, I think.

None of those games had anything like that.

I'm 98% sure 4 had landing sequences, i left 2% out cause it might have been just 5 and mistaking the two

 

[Crypto]

I'm 98% sure 4 had landing sequences, i left 2% out cause it might have been just 5 and mistaking the two

It didn't, I owned 4, beat it completely, and I even made a ~2 hour long VHS tape of me doing so...

 

[ElectricBlue187]

The smoke looks so ****ing awesome, it's not really important but I wonder if it's interactive in any way/ like if you fly through it doing mach 1+ if there will be any dispersal? That's not a realistic expectation as that would be a pretty intensive calculation to add to the engine but maybe in the next iteration of the game we can see something like this:IMG]

is that the flying spaghetti monster?

 

[spwolf]

I'm pretty sure someone posted some Ace Combat screenshots here a couple of months ago and it looked a whole lot better than these. Actually, it looked amazing. I should've known they were bullshots.

Still, it looks ok, but some of those shots look like ass.

well, we can honestly say that PS2 version got owned

 

[Crypto]

Ah I just looked it up, apparently you could completely skip the takeoff and landing in AC4, plus a lot of times the missions wouldn't even offer you landing...

 

[camineet]

Look at that, it's fricken beautiful.

indeed, and I cannot wait to see B-1B Lancers and Tu-160 Blackjacks

 

[kassatsu]

Ah I just looked it up, apparently you could completely skip the takeoff and landing in AC4, plus a lot of times the missions wouldn't even offer you landing...

You could go land to rearm your plane, that was the whole point of it.

 

[Crypto]

You could go land to rearm your plane, that was the whole point of it.

Well I must have never needed it, because I never used it once, and I got up to that

Spoiler

big underground base you have to fly through with the fire falling in the sky

 

[MickeyKnox]

is that the flying spaghetti monster?

Spoiler

That would be a most beautiful capture of the effects of jet-wash as that C17 flies through the contrails left by countermeasures.

Yes it is.
so is this:

 

[RumFore]

Ace Combat 4 does have landing sequences. I played the game to death so I know. When I first landed on the carrier I thought it was the coolest thing.

 

[Maggot9]

Way too much shit in that hud. During a landing sequence I don't need to see all of that other stuff.

it has exactly the same amount of info as AC5 or Zero. Blue= friendly. Red = target

 

[TrueReligion]

Wow, that looks awesome.

 

[Bulla564]

The wait for AC7 on PS3 is going to be a hard one... damn you Namco.

 

[neojubei]

I'd buy this game if i didn't know it was a timed exclusive.... damn those pics, must resist temptation and impulse buy.....>_<

The wait for AC7 on PS3 is going to be a hard one... damn you Namco.

yes very hard.

 

[blindrocket]

The wait for AC7 on PS3 is going to be a hard one... damn you Namco.

Gives us extra time to save up for the flight stick bundle.

 

[Evolved1]

Way too much shit in that hud. During a landing sequence I don't need to see all of that other stuff.

Uh... he isn't landing. Those red boxes are highlighted targets. This your first AC game?

 

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

I'd buy this game if i didn't know it was a timed exclusive.... damn those pics, must resist temptation and impulse buy.....>_<

You own a fucking 360. It's alright to buy a game for it every now and then. I won't tell Sony on you.

 

[JCBossman]

wow at the runway, purchased confirmed.

Yep, that one got me too, Sold Day 1, but did you see the Radar, with that much shit going on it's going to be next to useless.

 

[Evolved1]

Uh... he isn't landing. Those red boxes are highlighted targets. This your first AC game?

Omg... I'm a jackass. The ****ing landing gear is out... *slaps forehead*