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[ethelred]

If you don't buy Super Smash Bros. Brawl, you're part of the problem.

That is not a problem.

I think the bigger problem is his lack of DS

That's true.

 

[HK-47]

If you don't buy Super Smash Bros. Brawl, you're part of the problem.

I think the bigger problem is his lack of DS

 

[Bluemercury]

I think the bigger problem is his lack of DS

Which means that he probably doesnt have psp games....he's a pirate get him....

 

[kbear]

If you don't buy Super Smash Bros. Brawl, you're part of the problem.

I know it's going to be a good game but it's just not enough to warrant a purchase for me. Wii costs $250 and I need more than a few really good games a year to buy one. I might get one in a couple of years once it gets down to like $100-150.

 

[jj984jj]

If you don't buy Super Smash Bros. Brawl, you're part of the problem.

No it isn't, it just means you have a great resistance to the biggest fanservice game of all time. Resisting fanservice isn't a problem, just the opposite, it could be a gift in a sense. His problem is the lack of interest for Nintendo and his interest for Sony, for those only needing the killer apps this generation only need a 360 right now, maybe a PS3 when MGS comes out.

 

[HK-47]

No it isn't, it just means you have a great resistance to the biggest fanservice game of all time. Resisting fanservice isn't a problem, just the opposite, it could be a gift in a sense. His problem is the lack of fanboyism for Nintendo and his fanboyism for Sony, for those only needing the killer apps this generation only need a 360 right now, maybe a PS3 when MGS comes out.

Thanks for shining the light man. Really, I thank you.

 

[jj984jj]

Thanks for shining the light man. Really, I thank you.

Well it's true. But what kind of gamer only plays killer apps?

 

[Tristam]

Well it's true. But what kind of gamer only plays killer apps?

Nearly every system has its own killer app, generally defined by the hype and acclaim it receives. 360 has Gears of War and Halo 3. Wii has Super Mario Galaxy. PS3 doesn't really have any system-defining title yet (it will next year), but Uncharted and Resistance probably come closest.

 

[Linkup]

I might get one in a couple of years once it gets down to like $100-150.

Just mark the system off your list in that case.

 

[jj984jj]

Nearly every system has its own killer app, generally defined by the hype and acclaim it receives. 360 has Gears of War and Halo 3. Wii has Super Mario Galaxy. PS3 doesn't really have any system-defining title yet (it will next year), but Uncharted and Resistance probably come closest.

But one isn't really all that much, which is why I said 360 is all you really need right if you're a casual gamer (not talking about the blue ocean kind that Nintendo's attracting). One killer app like SMG or MGS4 isn't really enough for most people to purchase a new system. Saying things like "Doing without a Wii this gen is like doing without a PS2 last gen..." or "Wii does absolutely nothing for me" won't change that. If you're speaking in a general sense to gamers of any type, right now 360 is the only system to be remotely shocked if people have no interest in owning one at all. But that's just what I think.

 

[Tristam]

But one isn't really all that much, which is why I said 360 is all you really need right if you're a casual gamer (not talking about the blue ocean kind that Nintendo's attracting). One killer app like SMG or MGS4 isn't really enough for most people to purchase a new system. Saying things like "Doing without a Wii this gen is like doing without a PS2 last gen..." or "Wii does absolutely nothing for me" won't change that.

Oh I agree. Unless you're a huge fan of the exclusives Wii or PS3 is offering, 360 is probably the best bet.

 

[kbear]

Just mark the system off your list in that case.

Why? You don't think in a couple of years it'll be like $100-150? Maybe not $100 but $150 seems reasonable. That's two $50 price drops. And remember they could unpack Wii Sports like in Japan.

 

[Fredescu]

Why?My snes still play street fighter games

Your SNES had shoulder buttons. A good motion control fighting game is possible, but SF4 is SF4. Get it on 360.

Doing without a Wii this gen is like doing without a PS2 last gen...

No, doing without a 360 is like doing without a PS2, in the west anyway. The Wii is a different kind of beast, and I can understand why it might not be to everyones taste.

If you don't buy Super Smash Bros. Brawl, you're part of the problem.

What? People usually say that about games that aren't going to sell much. Brawl will sell much. There is no problem to be a part of.

 

[Conrad Link]

What a sad world we live in when Metroid Prime 3 isn't considered a killer app yet Halo 3 is.

EDIT: Heck, even Twilight Princess that everyone seems to forget about. :|

 

[Testicular Sound Express]

any hint to how Umbrella Chronicles sold?

 

[VALKYRAY]

what's bionics?
bionical commander?

 

[Tristam]

What a sad world we live in when Metroid Prime 3 isn't considered a killer app yet Halo 3 is.

EDIT: Heck, even Twilight Princess that everyone seems to forget about. :|

The definition for "killer app" varies considerably from speaker to speaker. My own definition -- which probably best suits the term -- for "killer app" is restrictive; it doesn't simply mean "big" or even "flagship" titles. Suffice to say, exclusivity is a prerequisite for killer app status, so Twilight Princess is disqualified.

 

[Linkup]

Why? You don't think in a couple of years it'll be like $100-150? Maybe not $100 but $150 seems reasonable. That's two $50 price drops. And remember they could unpack Wii Sports like in Japan.

It's price will probably drop slower than the PS2. Unless sales are cut in half sometime soon they have no reason to drop the price. Time really isn't the factor, but rather how long the system can sell 400-500k a month. If it does drop in price it will probably be in $25-$30 or maybe a large $50 mid 09.

 

[maxmars]

The definition for "killer app" varies considerably from speaker to speaker.

The only right meaning for the term is an application/game that, alone, determines the purchase of a system.

 

[rakka]

what's bionics?
bionical commander?

bionic commando spinoff

 

[HK-47]

The only right meaning for the term is an application/game that, alone, determines the purchase of a system.

Such as Wii Sports, SMG, Halo 3 if you are talking consoles

 

[MassiveAttack]

bionic commando spinoff

This man speaks the truth.

 

[Tristam]

The only right meaning for the term is an application/game that, alone, determines the purchase of a system.

Heh, so again, the definition varies considerably from speaker to speaker. Someone might buy a Wii alone for Super Mario Galaxy. Someone might buy a Wii alone for Fire Emblem. Someone might...see where this is going? Thus, you have to form more restrictive guidelines for a more objective definition of the term.

 

[ethelred]

Someone might buy a Wii alone for Fire Emblem.

You can't see it, but my hand is raised right now.

 

[Tristam]

You can't see it, but my hand is raised right now.

I actually used that example just for you, you know.

 

[Linkup]

bionic commando spinoff

for wiiware

 

[wsippel]

for wiiware

2D. Probably better than the "real" thing.

 

[BeEatNU]

Dead Rising 2 where are you

 

[Icarus]

What retailer gets to know things before every other retailer or media person in the world?

 

[Linkup]

What retailer gets to know things before every other retailer or media person in the world?

Gamefly

 

[Lobster]

What retailer gets to know things before every other retailer or media person in the world?

Why not? Gamestop has announced many games before the media.

 

[ZeoVGM]

That doesn't sound like an original Mega Man title.

Sounds like the title of a MMBN title. >=(

I hope I'm wrong.

I hope it's an MMBN title.

Because the last time that ended up on a console, we got Network Transmission, and it was awesome.

 

[MassiveAttack]

for wiiware

Nope.

 

[lordfroakie]

I hope it's an MMBN title.

Because the last time that ended up on a console, we got Network Transmission, and it was awesome.

-_-

 

[AndoCalrissian]

What retailer gets to know things before every other retailer or media person in the world?

Knowing != saying. I'm sure there have been several instances where retailers have revealed products that the media has known about, but couldn't say anything about.

Not saying that these products are real, though. I'll wait for something official or at least more concrete.

 

[ZeoVGM]

-_-

Very well thought out response.

Anyway, the game was great.

 

[A Link to the Past]

Some people could live with spending money on several consoles, but I want to have as few consoles as necessary (DS, PS2, Wii).

EDIT: Also, remember that Phoenix Wright 3 was first revealed in a retailer release list.

 

[scottnak]

Some people could live with spending money on several consoles, but I want to have as few consoles as necessary (DS, PS2, Wii).

Yup... I agree...

And as for Z&W 2... do want so much...

 

[DDayton]

I think it really is time for Wii owners to pick a g------ HD console of their choice and buy one.
this generaton is PS3/WII or 360/WII, its the way it's going to be. Why haven't you people realize that, is beyond me.
with time, it gets annoying when nintendo fans ask for a Wii redention of anything announced. Sometimes it's not going to happen. For such cases, you guys have to have a HD console!
o.k?

Poor people are the source of 75% of the whining and sobbing that plagues video game message boards. People need to go get a f------ job . . . I'm merely expressing my viewpoint that games made for the PS3 or 360 should stay on the PS3 or 360 and developers should stop downporting/gimping/waggle-mangling every game they make for a Wii release when it's not appropriate. People usually ask for this because they don't have the money to get one of the machines these games are designed for.

Sheesh, you guys sound bitter. Everyone wants games for their system of choice. What's wrong with that? Pointlessly derailing threads is wrong, but I never got the anger directed at folks who desired a game on a platform other than the one it was on. In some cases it's a fairly silly desire, but what's the harm? If this generation continues to progress in the way it has been and enough systems are out there for purchase, there's a good chance everyone will be able to play their own incarnations of the major third party titles...well, possibly not PS3 owners, but everyone else.

 

[wazoo]

Sheesh, you guys sound bitter. Everyone wants games for their system of choice. What's wrong with that? Pointlessly derailing threads is wrong, but I never got the anger directed at folks who desired a game on a platform other than the one it was on. In some cases it's a fairly silly desire, but what's the harm? If this generation continues to progress in the way it has been and enough systems are out there for purchase, there's a good chance everyone will be able to play their own incarnations of the major third party titles...well, possibly not PS3 owners, but everyone else.

you seemed pretty logical until the last words.

 

[dr3upmushroom]

Zak and Wiki 2.

 

[RJT]

Not at all. I'm merely expressing my viewpoint that games made for the PS3 or 360 should stay on the PS3 or 360 and developers should stop downporting/gimping/waggle-mangling every game they make for a Wii release when it's not appropriate.

I can understand that for some titles. It doesn't make sense for a Wii owner to ask for Crysis, but a SF4 port with worse gfx is completely viable, as the game is all about gameplay (without waggle, of course). Then you have titles like RE5 which would benefit greatly from Wii controls, which I would rather get than great graphics.

People usually ask for this because they don't have the money to get one of the machines these games are designed for.

I play only a few games a year, so a Wii and a semi-old PC is good enough for me. This year I bought SSX Blur, RE4 Wii, Metroid Prime 3 and Orange box, and finished none of them. it took me months to complete Twilight Princess, and I've been replaying Baldur's Gate 2 for months now.
Why would I need to buy another console just for one or two games? I'm not poor, but I'm also not rich.

 

[Thunder Monkey]

Nowhere, which is exactly where it belongs.

 

[DDayton]

you seemed pretty logical until the last words.

Eh, I thought the last line was the most logical of them all, based on current software and hardware sales.

 

[No_Style]

I can understand that for some titles. It doesn't make sense for a Wii owner to ask for Crysis, but a SF4 port with worse gfx is completely viable, as the game is all about gameplay (without waggle, of course). Then you have titles like RE5 which would benefit greatly from Wii controls, which I would rather get than great graphics.

The game isn't coming to the Wii unless the game is coming bundled with one of these:

No, GC controller is not a viable option.

I guess it could also happen if Capcom believes Wii owners are so casual then can live with SF4 with just 1 punch and 1 kick button. A NDS or a PSP version of SF4 is more likely?

I didn't notice any Okami Wii on that list. Previously confirmed release or still TBC?

 

[maxmars]

Heh, so again, the definition varies considerably from speaker to speaker. Someone might buy a Wii alone for Super Mario Galaxy. Someone might buy a Wii alone for Fire Emblem. Someone might...see where this is going? Thus, you have to form more restrictive guidelines for a more objective definition of the term.

Actually no, I don't see why you'd need to narrow down the definition.. A killer app for me to buy a platform may be an hardcore sim, for you something else, what's the problem?