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New study claims ramen is displacing tobacco as most popular US prison currency

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XiaNaphryz

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Ramen is displacing tobacco as most popular US prison currency, study finds:

Ramen noodles are overtaking tobacco as the most popular currency in US prisons, according a new study released on Monday.

A new report by Michael Gibson-Light, a doctoral candidate in the University of Arizona’s school of sociology, found the decline in quality and quantity of food available in prisons due to cost-cutting has made ramen noodles a valuable commodity.

“[Ramen] is easy to get and it’s high in calories,” Gibson-Light said. “A lot of them, they spend their days working and exercising and they don’t have enough energy to do these things. From there it became more a story, why ramen in particular.”


Gibson-Light interviewed close to 60 inmates over the course of a year at one state prison as part of a wider study on prison labor. He did not identify the prison to protect the confidentiality of the inmates.

He found that the instant soup has surpassed tobacco as the most prized currency at the prison. He also analyzed other nationwide investigations that he says found a trend towards using ramen noodles in exchanges.

“One way or another, everything in prison is about money,” one soft-spoken prisoner named Rogers said in the report. “Soup is money in here. It’s sad but true.”

Ramen noodles have long been known to be a popular dish in prisons. Gustavo “Goose” Alvarez, who spent more than a decade incarcerated on a weapons charge, wrote a book on its popularity, Prison Ramen: Recipes and Stories From Behind Bars.

He was inspired to write the book after a race riot in 2009 led to a standoff between a group of Hispanic and African American inmates. An older inmate quelled the dispute and the two groups resolved the tensions by cooking a feast together, largely with ramen noodles.

The book, released last year, includes several recipes such as Ramen Tamale, using Doritos, canned pork and beans, and ramen. It recommends mixing strawberry jelly with soy sauce to make teriyaki, to go with Cheesy Meat Tacos. The book also includes the favorite ramen recipes of celebrities such as Shia LeBeouf and Guns N’ Roses guitarist Slash.

At the prison from the study, ramen cost 59 cents at the commissary but would be exchanged for items worth more in value. For instance, a sweatshirt – worth $10.81 – can be bought for two packs of ramen. Five tailor-made cigarettes – worth $2.00 – can be bought for one pack of ramen. Acquiring fresh vegetables to cook with was extremely highly regarded, Gibson-Light said. Inmates would use ramen to buy onions or zucchinis stolen from the kitchen.

Others cleaned inmates’ bunks for one pack of ramen – referred to as soup – a week, or did laundry or gambled with it.


It can get dangerous when ramen is purchased at illegal inmate stores, as customers often purchase items on credit. Failure to pay back debts can result in fights or worse.

“I’ve seen fights over ramen,” one inmate said. “People get killed over soup.”

Gibson-Light explained that forms of currencies only change in extreme circumstances.

“[Money] doesn’t change unless there’s some drastic change to the value in people using it,” he said. The shift from tobacco to ramen highlights how dire the nutritional standards at prisons has become, he added.

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Media

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That is so fucking depressing. Prison food is so bad that fucking Ramen is a highly prized and sought after alternative. Fuck we need to reform our prison systems.
 

bigkrev

Member
As someone who loves Ramen and has a fascination (obsession?) with prisons, I'm so happy that book exists

Also, 59 cents is a much smaller mark-up than I was expecting. If you are buying individual packets, you will find food stores that sell Ramen for more money than that.
 
So I guess maybe we can start sending white athlete rapists to prison after all

I mean since the whole point of giving them probation is so they can have a college experience.
 

jdstorm

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You just know that there's one rich prisoner who's using that ramen to make Pizza. Then rubbing it in everyone's faces
 

RDreamer

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Jesus christ that books sounds amazingly weird. Favorite ramen recipes by Shia Leboeuf and Slash plus a foreword by Samuel L Jackson? Who comes up with this shit.
 

BlueTsunami

there is joy in sucking dick
Nothing like cooking up two ramen packs and going to town. One never feels enough. Aslo poach an egg or two. I can understand it.

What better way to get ripped everyday with nothing else to do but work out and eat ramen, lol

Carbs + calories. Not sure where they're getting their protein but something is working with how some of these dudes leave totally yolked.
 

.JayZii

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Hmm, that's interesting.

I had "prison ramen" in college, which was when people in my dorm added a Kraft American cheese single to their ramen and made it into a weird sloppy mac and cheese.
 

Dynomutt

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Shrimp=$5
Beef=$10
Chicken=$20
Roast/Picante=$50
Creamy Chicken or Cheddar Cheese=$100

Holla at me. 5 for 4 all day. Let me if you need party packs.

Got Tapatio packets on deck.

Ya boy Munches a.k.a Grub King a.k.a. Mr. Bodega.
 

PantherLotus

Professional Schmuck
My aunt used to crunch it up in the package AND drain off the liquid before serving it. I've never seen it served in a worse way, EVER.

I'm still fucking mad about it.
 
I don't know how it works in other states, but here the local Sheriff gets paid a flat rate for prisoner meals based on the total number of inmates he has in his jail each month. That money goes directly to the Sheriff and belongs to him personally. So, effectively, it's financially beneficial for the Sheriff to feed the prisoners as cheaply as possible. The less the Sheriff spends on feeding the prisoners, the more money he gets to keep. He's basically profiting off of the inmates' malnutrition.
 
Momofuku Ando once said: "Ramen will not only nourish the soul, but act as a currency for buying some of White Power Bill's toilet sangria."
 
1 Neoguri Spicy Seafood Udon has to be worth at least 5 Shin Ramyun, and at least 7 to 8 generic cup noodle, if their economy is balanced right
 

Korigama

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Having never heard of this development before, I must say that I find it rather fascinating. The book mentioned also sounds like it would make for an interesting read.
 

Brakke

Banned
Thanks for posting this. I expected it was going to be about how tobacco use is declining so inmates just don't want smokes, I didn't consider it'd be coming from the other side.

So I guess maybe we can start sending white athlete rapists to prison after all

I mean since the whole point of giving them probation is so they can have a college experience.

Wow so topical.
 
I used to eat ramen noodles raw. They were cheap and crunchy. Not hard like raw Italian pasta noodles, either.

I don't want to know how they smuggle that ramen in...

I have to assume that Ramen noodles are part of the prison commissary, so they're probably smuggled through kitchen staff.
 
I don't want to know how they smuggle that ramen in...
Uh they can buy from/bribe the kitchen staff/canteen in the prison. Also now they have cellphones with chips to do this shit.

Read the motherjones article. Eye opening.

Also I was wondering why it took so long to be honest, lol. Smokes are expensive and so easily traceable. Kinda fucked up that ramen is getting inflated due to the regular prison food...
 

Jabo

Member
Kinda off topic but there's this joint here that serves Tomato and Eggs ramen and its soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo fucking good
 
My aunt used to crunch it up in the package AND drain off the liquid before serving it. I've never seen it served in a worse way, EVER.

I'm still fucking mad about it.

That's what I do. Fight me.

So I guess maybe we can start sending white athlete rapists to prison after all

I mean since the whole point of giving them probation is so they can have a college experience.

If you want to discuss that, there's a thread for it already. In fact, I remember seeing you post in it. How odd...
 

Korey

Member
Here's a tip for the bagged ramen:

1. Put the brick in a zip lock bag
2. Open the seasoning packet and dump it in the zip lock
3. Zip it and smash it til the noodles are in little pieces and shake to spread the seasoning
4. Eat for a light crunchy, salty snack!
 

Fracas

#fuckonami
Here's a tip for the bagged ramen:

1. Put the brick in a zip lock bag
2. Open the seasoning packet and dump it in the zip lock
3. Zip it and smash it til the noodles are in little pieces and shake to spread the seasoning
4. Eat for a light crunchy, salty snack!

God is dead
 
Here's a tip for the bagged ramen:

1. Put the brick in a zip lock bag
2. Open the seasoning packet and dump it in the zip lock
3. Zip it and smash it til the noodles are in little pieces and shake to spread the seasoning
4. Eat for a light crunchy, salty snack!

The intelligent use of fire is what separates humanity from animals
 
Hahaha I remember my brother and I smuggled boxes of ramen in our boarding school and flipped it for large profit cause the food sucked.

I'm not surprised.
 
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