I also loved the final boss music in Abyss. When the
came in, I swear my jaw dropped.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vk8MaVo5VpI
Grand Fonic Hymn
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vk8MaVo5VpI
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New Tales of Graces f English Screenshots
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The Praiseworthy
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It's my favorite part also.... such a great final boss theme <3
Tales of Destiny Remake has the best dungeon themes in the series.
Invisible Hand - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JirwltBymuM
Clock Tower - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywpuhMmI-uE
A Research Scholar - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gp1ugC3NR0
It sounds a lot like stuff from VP.
Invisible Hand - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JirwltBymuM
Clock Tower - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywpuhMmI-uE
A Research Scholar - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gp1ugC3NR0
It sounds a lot like stuff from VP.
I really disliked the school battle music. It's a shame because it has Hubert's best outfit imo. You could always put someone with another outfit with music and switch to them, but I still wish that Graces and Xillia had an option to disable DLC music. I'd rather hear the soundtrack of the game I'm currently playing than one I played years ago on my first couple playthroughs.
WickedLaharl
Member
Tales music has always been pretty forgettable but holy shit graces is downright AWFUL going by the examples posted.
Meccanical
Member
Well see that's just no good.
How's the world/dungeon design in this game by the way?
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
The tales games overall has amazing music
Tales of Symphonia
Main Theme
Meltokio
Final Boss Battle
Shinobi's life
Tales of the Abyss
Meaning of Birth
Grand Chokmah
Baticul
Order of Lorlei HQ
Port Town
Tales of Vesperia
Town of Flowers
A Vow of Unity
Tales of Symphonia
Main Theme
Meltokio
Final Boss Battle
Shinobi's life
Tales of the Abyss
Meaning of Birth
Grand Chokmah
Baticul
Order of Lorlei HQ
Port Town
Tales of Vesperia
Town of Flowers
A Vow of Unity
One of my favorite dungeon themes ever.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQDKmsIGO2E
From Tales of Symphonia
EDIT: and those are all good choices too.
The dungeon design is terrible, same copy pasta corridors for most of the dungeons.
The field maps are fine though.
Meccanical
Member
Listening to this stuff now and man I just don't remember any of it.
Like...at all.
Like...at all.
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
I do thank this thread for lowering my musical expectations since I typically have insanely high expectations for Tales soundtracks.
Heck, the Xillia OST sounds amazing
Heck, the Xillia OST sounds amazing
Meccanical
Member
I actually typically look forward to Tales music. I mean, not buying OST or anything, but just when playing through the games. From all the games I have played, I'd say Hearts is by far the worst. Almost completely forgettable, and it also has the worst battle themes IMO. Perhaps it was a side effect of the DS, but still. As for the best, barring Legendia which is incredible and on another level, I'd say Vesperia, Symphonia, and Rebirth are the best. I couldn't choose a favorite from those since they all have some standout tracks.
I'd also like to point out some lesser tracks that I think are quite good.
Rest of the Heart - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUyTdGMsszo
Talk about Sylvarant - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Vkp9gMWn0A
Brilliant Life, Rising Light - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuQYokFWbO8
I'd also like to point out some lesser tracks that I think are quite good.
Rest of the Heart - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUyTdGMsszo
Talk about Sylvarant - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Vkp9gMWn0A
Brilliant Life, Rising Light - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuQYokFWbO8
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
There are a few dungeons in this game that I don't really appreciate at all. I think it's still better than Innocence's. And Tempest's.
Yuri's one of the better protagonists in the series. He's great.
...I just like Asbel because I like how Takahiro Sakurai voices him.
Troy Baker is good but his pitches don't change or anything so he always has that one voice. Oh well, he's good at what he does. Thinking back on it, I really enjoyed the cast of Vesperia. Mainly Yuri and Raven. So awesome.
EDIT: Does anyone know how to change your member title to something unique?
He certainly doesn't sound the same as Yuri as he does as Abaddon or Straga in Darksiders.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
I've never played Tales of Vesperia in English. No 360 yet, but I do have a copy of it! :x
I can only assume Baker did a good job with the character since people in general seem to like Yuri overall. I haven't seen any of the English scenes at all, actually.
Only mods can do that, and that only happens in special cases.
You should really play thorugh Vesperia 360. I found the narrative to be worthwhile and the theme is really great.
Oh, I didn't know that mods have to do that. Oh well...
Yuri was the first Troy Baker voiced character I had heard, I believe. Huge fan ever since. Even Snow's dumbest moments are tolerable as a result. Also, Kanji <3
Vesperia also has my favorite Tales cast by far. Yuri, Raven, Estelle, Rita, Judith, Repede, and even Karol by the end were all awesome.
Vesperia also has my favorite Tales cast by far. Yuri, Raven, Estelle, Rita, Judith, Repede, and even Karol by the end were all awesome.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
That's why some people have silly tags.
Are there any narrative changes from Vesperia JP and Vesperia English? I've only played the PS3 version. Or is Yuri just handled a lot better in the English version?
I didn't know he did those roles. Interesting.
That's why some people have silly tags.
Are there any narrative changes from Vesperia JP and Vesperia English? I've only played the PS3 version. Or is Yuri just handled a lot better in the English version?
They're essentially the same. It's just the Patty stuff that's different. Yuri's english voice sounds better than the JP imo. I just enjoy the english cast more. I also found Vesperia 360 to be more coherent. idk... something about patty through me off.
FateBreaker
Member
Vesperia has story elements that are not bad at all and actually very good. Bebpo even classified them as Shakespearean, in which I would agree. Abyss brings up heavy themes in a usually real, not-too-corny way--and at the least, maintains a consistent, enjoyable plot. Final Fantasy XIII, for the sake of comparison, does not. My two cents.
And that's a bit harsh on the music. Sakuraba is an incredible composer. Some of his Tales works is worse than others--I've heard Graces is pretty bad here, but I've also heard Xillia is pretty good here. I love Legendia's music more than anyone in this forum, but in the midst of filler tracks, Sakuraba can really deliver at certain points in the Tales series. I know most people would disagree with me, but I thought Vesperia's OST was fantastic. Faaannntastic.
Meccanical
Member
I actually liked the story in Vesperia.
Mostly the elements involving Yuri and his vigilanteism.
Mostly the elements involving Yuri and his vigilanteism.
Legendia was a different composer entirely. It was Go Shiina.
FateBreaker
Member
Yeah...I know. What's your point? The poster said any non-Legendia work...and I was just stating, yeah, I love Legendia music more than the next guy, but that doesn't mean everything outside of Legendia (aka Sakuraba work) sucks.
I always look forward to your posts. You really know what you're talking about in this area.
Also, I completely agree with your analogy of fast food. It can be enjoyable, and it gets the job done, but the better stuff is in non-Tales games. With some exceptions, his work is still commendable. Honestly, I was pretty impressed by Vesperia's soundtrack.
Sorry, the way your post was worded it looked like you were grouping it with the other ones.
FateBreaker
Member
Yeah I realized that after I posted. My bad. I clarified what I meant above.
Honestly, the vigilantism theme made me like Yuri less. Here I was playing with other people and had everyone else cheering him on, but it's just that he was doing the right thing by doing the wrong thing and he'd eventually end up dragging everyone else into it. It made a nice duality with Flynn, but it still ended up bothering me through a good chunk of the game. I was ashamed of him the same way I was ashamed of Karol for most of the game (can't outright hate a kid who has his uses and actually wants to be a better person, despite all of his gross failures). On that sense, with Vesperia and Abyss, they executed their intended themes quite well. For Symphonia, as much as I want to say the same, I know my view is colored by my upbringing and nostalgia.
FateBreaker
Member
I just really liked Vesperia's plot especially for the first half where it was really about
Yuri finding out what is right versus wrong. How to make a right with a wrong, how to make people happy yet yourself not feeling happy...things like that. It really didn't even touch up on a plot for a while and instead concentrate on building this not totally good person you're playing, whether you like it or not. As Bebpo pointed out, it was kind of Shakespearean and does not show a clear answer. Ultimately, it made me like Yuri the most in the entire series.
contrast
let's just all keep going! we gotta believe! sure if we look at this logically it is completely insane and a suicide mission, but let's all happily defeat the evil, and let's not care about the consequences, because we want change, even if that change is bad, but again that's logic let's not think about that. and then the ending actually comes up and it creates a ton of plot holes that i still have no idea wtf. argh.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Nothing from Tales of Legendia? for shame...
If there is one thing the game did not fail at, it was music.
R_thanatos
Member
I do thank this thread for lowering my musical expectations since I typically have insanely high expectations for Tales soundtracks.
Heck, the Xillia OST sounds amazing
A total shame since this is the only entry i'm issing .. i played graces only for 3 hours so i couldn't get a feel of the whole soundtrack ..
Overall i enjoy tales of games music ..a real shame Graces doesn't seem to deliver...
It will be hard since i've already finished Xillia and it was pretty much excellent on that point
Yuri is better in the PS3 version because there is a better develloppement with flynn ..this is something they expanded with the movie too ..but the PS3 version really added enough scenes to really show how their bond of friendship is ...
Patty made raven and karol moments even more than what there were initially ...
Patty "moments" stretched the storyline but gave the cast enough time to breathe ...
Even troy baker can't put aside more story and more interraction between the cast .. PS3 version is superior , no doubt about it ..
Remind them. Putting the thought back into their head is better than nothing!I just wish they hadn't taken so long to get Graces out. I've talked several people into buying it months ago after learning it was going to be localized and they've probably forgotten about it by now
Oh, I forgot Legendia. Seeking Victory is one of my favourite boss themes.
edit: Battle Artist, Like a Glint of Light and Destiny's Ambushed one are tied for best normal battle theme
edit: Battle Artist, Like a Glint of Light and Destiny's Ambushed one are tied for best normal battle theme
SonicX_Zero
Member
It boggles my mind why Shiina was only given one shot at the main Tales series titles. =/
Hearing this makes me want to play through it. I watched the movie, but before that even while playing the 360 version I felt Flynn needed to be more prominent in the story. I'm also glad about Patty, as I got to try her out once and she was pretty fun. I like her character despite myself.
My friend imported a copy of Vesperia PS3, so I might organize a playthrough some time with a translation handy.
As for my own music preferences, in most Tales games the only songs that stay with me are the more common battle themes and remixes of the main theme. Anything else and I'll have to listen again to remember if I've even heard it before...
Example: I was extremely confused the first couple of seconds listening to this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lx6OX4HwFM
I assume after Zaude, right?
Bingo, and to top off how much I didn't care for the cast aside from Judy/Yuri.
I thought Raven was nice. But yeah, plot did take a dive after Zaude.
manzo
Member
Those 3 songs are one of my favorite Tales tracks. However, the remakes which you posted are downright awful - mere shadows of their original PSX versions. Destiny R versions sound like elevator music.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Oh yeah... that's kinda where Vesperia's narrative started not being so great. How unfortunate.
AzureSkies
Member
Just curious, is there any chance of an English demo for Graces F or will it not be happening?