Cloudy said:I want Gundam SEED 3
No you don't.
Cloudy said:I want Gundam SEED 3
It's Konex.Kagari said:No you don't.
hockeypuck said:Whoo-hoo!
pleaselettherebeRGM79SPpleaselettherebeRGM79SPpleaselettherebeRGM79SP
It has yet to be MG'ed, so pleaselettherebeRGM79SP.
Apharmd said:You know, I got so stoked when HGUC Zaku II FZ was announced. That meant there was only one more suit from 0080 not made in a HGUC 1/144 format.
And then they stopped.
What the fuck does Bandai have against this design?
Kagari said:They found out you hated 08th MS Team and 0083.
Apharmd said:I'm sorry EZ8 is a trash design and that Gouf Custom is a poser compared to the original.
Oh, and Shoji Kawamori can't design Gundams worth shit.
Apharmd said:I'm sorry I hate everything in those two except designs and animation.
08th MS and 0083 must've killed Apharmd's mother.Apharmd said:I'm sorry EZ8 is a trash design and that Gouf Custom is a poser compared to the original.
Oh, and Shoji Kawamori can't design Gundams worth shit.
hockeypuck said:08th MS and 0083 must've killed Apharmd's mother.
Gouf Custom > regular Gouf with a fat whip, useless LH manipulators, and a melee weapon made of magic orange goo (not beam).
Cloudy said:I want Gundam SEED 3
Blader5489 said:Does anyone think there's even the slightest chance they'll revisit Gundam Wing for it's 20th anniversary?
Apharmd said:I'm sorry EZ8 is a trash design and that Gouf Custom is a poser compared to the original.
Oh, and Shoji Kawamori can't design Gundams worth shit.
gokieks said:God I hope not.
doubtful, he said he's gonna leave Gundam to the young guns now... but who knows.jimmbow said:Wait, is Tomino doing this?? Because if not, my expectations just dropped....
Blader5489 said:Does anyone think there's even the slightest chance they'll revisit Gundam Wing for it's 20th anniversary?
Cloudy said:I want Gundam SEED 3
Jamesfrom818 said:Not too much of a Gundam fan anymore. I want more Macross.
Fixed. It's just Apharmd who hates it.MattKeil said:Great news. UC is by far my favorite Gundam continuity, and 08th MS is the best Gundam series. Suck it, hater.
Drkirby said:I want my 14th Gundam fight damn it, give me a G Gundam sequel D:
Hero said:Guys, ignore Apharmd. This is the same guy who has defended Gundam 00 regardless of the episode and claims it's better than other Gundam series. I used to think Bebpo had poor taste but Apharmd takes the cake.
U K Narayan said:Gundam ended for me the moment Yoshiyuki Tomino left the series behind with Turn A Gundam.
If he backs another series, I'll get interested again.
Blader5489 said:How dare you!
gokieks said:I dare because Wing is far and away the worst Gundam series I've seen (haven't seen the SD Gundam stuff, and don't plan to), with its mediocre-at-best story and a cast that had maybe 3 characters that I could actually think of as being likeable. Even the mech design wasn't that great with a few notable exceptions (Epyon and OVA Wing Zero Custom - I'm a complete sucker for angel wings no matter how little sense their presence makes).
I would rather watch even SEED Destiny than Wing, and that's saying a damned lot.
Apharmd said:I'm sorry EZ8 is a trash design and that Gouf Custom is a poser compared to the original.
Oh, and Shoji Kawamori can't design Gundams worth shit.
ugggghh. Any time there's any show out there that focuses on moral ambiguity you always get that guy who says "bu bu bu bu but none of the characters are LIKEABLE!!! I HATE IT". The whole point was that one side wasn't the good guys and the other side wasn't the bad guys. They just had different points of view.gokieks said:I dare because Wing is far and away the worst Gundam series I've seen (haven't seen the SD Gundam stuff, and don't plan to), with its mediocre-at-best story and a cast that had maybe 3 characters that I could actually think of as being likeable. Even the mech design wasn't that great with a few notable exceptions (Epyon and OVA Wing Zero Custom - I'm a complete sucker for angel wings no matter how little sense their presence makes).
I would rather watch even SEED Destiny than Wing, and that's saying a damned lot.
Zoramon089 said:It's like he's trying to incite the most hate possible
polyh3dron said:ugggghh. Any time there's any show out there that focuses on moral ambiguity you always get that guy who says "bu bu bu bu but none of the characters are LIKEABLE!!! I HATE IT". The whole point was that one side wasn't the good guys and the other side wasn't the bad guys. They just had different points of view.
polyh3dron said:ugggghh. Any time there's any show out there that focuses on moral ambiguity you always get that guy who says "bu bu bu bu but none of the characters are LIKEABLE!!! I HATE IT". The whole point was that one side wasn't the good guys and the other side wasn't the bad guys. They just had different points of view.
gokieks said:Moral ambiguity is not something that's exclusive to Gundam Wing, even within the Gundam franchise itself. And what does that have to do with the most of the characters being either flat and one-dimensional or just plain-out annoying? Certainly not every show with that "feature" has a cast of characters that's as boring, annoying, or in some cases both, as that of Wing.
And yes, tearing up a party invitation, wiping away her tears, and then leaving with the parting words of "I will kill you" is romance at its finest.
It was some fine unintentional(?) comedy though!
Apharmd said:Nah, I didn't mean romance as in LOVE LOVE, i meant romance as in rustic idealism. Like...basically, how Wing's atmosphere is like a fairy tale. European aristocracy and all that stuff.
Hero said:Guys, ignore Apharmd. This is the same guy who has defended Gundam 00 regardless of the episode and claims it's better than other Gundam series. I used to think Bebpo had poor taste but Apharmd takes the cake.
This is coming from the dude who can't pay attention to basic shit in the show and wanted everything explained to his face.
EDIT - And nah, I love 00 to death because it tries so hard, but 0079/Zeta still takes the cake for me. That's just how it is.
Haha. It's true, 00 is crap.
Hero said:Does it pain you to have to continue subbing the series?
Kagari said:Might as well finish what we started.
gokieks said:Heh, I know what you meant, it's just that scene is one of the first things that comes to mind when I think of the series, and so couldn't resist making a dig at it.
Honestly, Wing had promise. I even enjoyed it somewhat the first time I watched it (when I was younger and more naive, the cynic in me would say), but when I went back and rewatched the whole thing last year, I found it just about insufferable.
Hero said:Gundam Wing gave us Deathscythe so I can excuse a lot of its miserable points. So far 00 has yet to offer a cool design. Mr. Bushido's (lol why's he in the plot again?) comes close though.
Hero said:I like how you recycle this argument against me because I didn't bother reading a Gundam 00 side story manga that explained shit that happens offscreen between the seasons. But then again you're the one who defends Gundam 00 by saying we should be grateful because it's better than what Sunrise could've given us as another milking in the Gundam universe.
Hero said:That's the thing. It's not like A-laws even really cared about the Momento Mori. It served its purpose and they didn't give a fuck.
And 0-Raiser's "lol-beam-cannon-saber" is coming close to be as eye-rolling worthy as Freedom's aimbot shit. It's such a plague of the AC series that the Gundam pilots rely so much more on the brute power of the suits rather than their own abilities as a pilot.
Kagari said:Haha. It's true, 00 is crap.
By brute power I think of weapons of mass destruction, which is more prevalent in AC series. UC series has less of that, and usually UC MS WMDs are explicitly explained with liabilities; e.g., Hyaku Shiki's mega bazooka launcher is retconned into requiring the Methuss as a battery, even the ZZ's high mega cannon incapacitates the suit after a single use. The Sazabi uses its mega particle gun once or twice in the entire movie. Most of GP03 Orchis' impressive firepower came from its ballistic arsenal, not its beam weapon.Apharmd said:Now, AC series on pilots relying on the brute force of their suits...that's how 00 S1 and S2 are both written. The meisters in S1 weren't destroying aces even while riding units that are DECADES above in technology because those aces had enough skill/recklessness/plain dumb luck to stay alive. Once Patrick got a GNX, he actually did quite a bit of damage to the Gundams. Unfortunately, marketing pressure called for 00 Raiser.
In any case, if you thought UC was clean from this, you clearly did not notice Amuro's first sorties where he relied on the Gundam's power because he was very new. He had good piloting instincts, but he was still a civilian at that time. And what about Zeta Gundam, when it glowed pink and summoned gigantic beam sabers and deflected beams with the power of DEAD SOULS? I love me some Zeta, but Tomino clearly just forsook logic there for his art direction. (Biosensor explanation didn't come until a retcon later.)
And how about Double Zeta, eh? Judau was a scrubby pilot that basically allowed the Double Zeta to take care of the mess he makes. It's so insanely powerful it's ridiculous.
And if F91 didn't shed the outer layers of its armor to attempt to release heat, Seabook wouldn't have won against the Rafflesia.
Heck, if Shiro didn't have a thickass armor plating on EZ8's chest and writers who cared, that magellan tank round in episode 9 would've crushed his cockpit.
Sentinel is my favorite series, as well, although the incom system, Deep Striker, and Hummingbird are kinda pushing it (albeit cool-looking).hteng said:bah, was hoping they'll make an anime adaptation of Gundam Sentinel, this is the only mature/complex story i've seen so far, no angsty teens, no super gundams, no new types (pseudo NTs though), complex machines, big battles..etc