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Newsweek: Xbox Live Down: Hackers Could Know Network Off The Face of the Earth
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awesomegamername
Banned
Came here to say this...what a bunch of bored 14 year old d bags.
BiGBoSSMk23
A company being excited for their new game is a huge slap in the face to all the fans that liked their old games.
E-peens
semiconscious
Member
i've seen the future, &, yeah, there's gonna be lots more 'script kiddies vs whomever' ahead...
Pathfinder
Member
DDOS'ing is not hacking.
It's just a bunch of posturing script kiddies. Nothing more.
It's just a bunch of posturing script kiddies. Nothing more.
It's just flooding Microsoft's servers with stuff until it goes down. Increasing their load capacity just means they flood it more.
Basically no, it's not fully preventable for any server on the planet as long as it's connected to the internet.
Lmao "hackers" they are doing "justice" yet they call out keemstar.
Fucking love kids with their mothers credit cards.
What I love is they are not doing anything you can crash any and every server by filling it up with enough packets. There is very little to none in security involved with this.
Fucking love kids with their mothers credit cards.
What I love is they are not doing anything you can crash any and every server by filling it up with enough packets. There is very little to none in security involved with this.
I'm sure for these idiotic kids, not having Quantum Break as an Xbox exclusive is just as bad as ISIS. They're just airbags.
Hibiki Kurosawa
Member
the same old shit again and again.
You can but you need an insurmountable number of enterprise class routers and switches that can identify bad traffic and discard it while maintaining normal load.
so pretty much no 
Yes and then no. If it was just DDOS there are protections that can be done waaay upstream but then it gets indiscernible from legitimate traffic and you have a self-created downtime in essence.
Microsoft is still to blame for bad security on operating systems and you also have to look at the very insecure routers consumers are sold - these two areas are the primary instruments of this type of traffic. New World Hackers are just the conductors.
The Dutch Slayer
Member
Meh Ms should not worry about "Off the face of the earth".
Its all the in cloud anyway right?
Its all the in cloud anyway right?
darkinstinct
...lacks reading comprehension.
No. But it's possible for them to react faster. Anyway, these are no hackers, these are script kiddies that got their hands on a bot network. Likely paid for it. Just a bunch of dumb teens.
Xbox Live has just experienced one of its worst performing weeks ever, and you're taking the "wait, something happened?" approach to damage control. lol ok.
More sensible to acknowledge a problem that has inconvenienced a significant number of users, even if it's out of Microsoft's hands, than to go the "bring it on" route.
Omegasquash
Member
God, the Christmas outage for PSN. I'd prefer not to remember.
Neuromancer
Member
Just wait until they start blowing up vans.
The DDOS doesn't require much skill but gaining control over a diverse botnet can.
oh yay.... I hope my credit card info is safe and protected, that's all I really worry about.
Also for those who can't launch their games due to Xbox Live being down, you need to go into the settings and check the "Go Offline" setting, or else it won't launch any game, whether it's online oriented or not. Weird that it's like that, but it helped earlier in the year when Xbox live was down and I was wanting to play.
Also for those who can't launch their games due to Xbox Live being down, you need to go into the settings and check the "Go Offline" setting, or else it won't launch any game, whether it's online oriented or not. Weird that it's like that, but it helped earlier in the year when Xbox live was down and I was wanting to play.
SictorVullivan
Member
"New World Hackers"
DDOS's Xbox instead of hacking.
DDOS's Xbox instead of hacking.
Cthulhu_Steev
Member
This is how I see it, they never usually boast before it happens, they just claim they did it after the fact. Like ISIL claiming responsibility for every act of terror, even the ones that had fuck all to do with them.
CalamityPixel
Member
How about you stop doing attacks like this because you're the only ones doing attacks like this to try and prove a point about yourselves doing attacks like this when there is no reason for attacks like this.
That hurt to type out.
That hurt to type out.
Tons of actual malicious programmers will sell botnets to use temporarily. They guys have 0 skill.
sechsterangriff
Member
Where do these guys get the bots for their attacks? Do these groups share resources?
Edit: answered above
Edit: answered above
Seriously. I hate it when people use the word "hacking" or "hackers" but don't know shit about it.
Herp Derpington
Member
Disaster Nebraska
Banned
Network security and network bandwidth are two different things. These 'hackers' are dabbling with the latter.
Now, if they want to 'hack' in and release private info and whatnot, that might achieve their goals, but this is just silly.
Now, if they want to 'hack' in and release private info and whatnot, that might achieve their goals, but this is just silly.
CalamityPixel
Member
Where do these guys get the bots for their attacks? Do these groups share resources?
Edit: answered above
Most of the tools you can get for DDOSing are available online for free. Just the right google search away.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
What's funny is although I haven't done very much gaming as of late, I've been able to connect to Xbox live rather easily for days now, to the point I didn't even know this "outage" was taking place.
If someone hacks a server, and nobody is around to take notice, did the hack even occur?
If someone hacks a server, and nobody is around to take notice, did the hack even occur?
Yup. DDoS =/= Hacking in the slightest. I wish the media made that clear.
A better headline would be:
Some kids found LoIC and used hivemind mode and botnets to overflow XBL services. Anyone with Google can do it, but 99% of us aren't massive assholes.
I wish GAF senpai would notice me!
Yes...more data centres. That's why the last time this happened it only lasted for 50 minutes, because they shifted to other data centres.
Maybe now they are DDOSing those other centres as well.
What happened to "more than 300,000 servers"? I thought the whole point about Microsoft Cloud was they were able to spin up capacity as and when required?
It depends.
One easy way to (D)DoS something is to find a resource intensive action on a server and pound it, like forum searches (hence why most forum searches have timers and minimum search lengths). So if MS has something they hadn't properly hardened against these sorts of hits, then they could correct that to reduce the risk.
However you can also DDoS something in a pretty brute force manner by basically just throwing enough shit at it to clog the tubes. This isn't as simplistic as doing a million requests for a image file, but similar general idea.
This instance is probably the latter case. You can't really *prevent* that sort of attack by yourself, but you can mitigate it and minimize the impact with sufficient data mirroring (MOAR SERVERS) and blocking the attacks as far upstream as you can.
FunkyPajamas
Member
Ugh fucking losers.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
lol FBI is going to raid these cunts and put them in jail to rot for years. Thats what they fucking deserve.
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