Christocolus
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Stunning.Forza Motorsport 7 | XB1 Replay/gameplay
Downpours on Suzuka are nuts. The best is if the storm passes, and you're just looking at all the built-up water with a brighter sky reflecting.
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Forza Motorsport 7 | XB1 Replay/gameplay
Downpours on Suzuka are nuts. The best is if the storm passes, and you're just looking at all the built-up water with a brighter sky reflecting.
Why aren't the tires kicking up water in that first GIF? Just looks off.
Maybe not enough water on the roadway? You see it kick up when the car goes over the candy-stripe. The splashes correspond to the water on the ground.; it's not just a constant effect. You see the water draining on the roadway before the bend in the second image, which is why it's so "splashy."
Christocolus
Member
It will look even much better on the 1X.
Fredrik
Member
Beautiful!
I just figure if the road was wet enough to reflect the car, it should be wet enough to kick up some water.
Pretty much. Cars leave increasingly dry ruts by kicking up water.
ss_lemonade
Member
I have a 1080ti and a oc'ed 3570k and while I could run the game at possible higher settings, the demo was still a stuttery mess for me. Didn't make for an enjoyable experience. Is it because of my CPU? Is the retail game more optimized?
thelastword
Banned
I've already explained my stance..I've looked at this and I don't see better DD. Resolution and filtering quality is better on XBONEX....that's it....
Yes I see the hills....and?
What are you on about? The windscreen bit was a passing statement, that was not even my main point. The main point was that the rain was better in F6 and there's less fog masking detail. The other bugs and issues were just extra...So try to take my statements and twist it however you please....
icecold1983
Member
The game is mostly single threaded and nvidia has generally worse cpu overhead in dx12. Even moreso in forza 7
Its the inverse of the dx11 situation altho nvidia doesnt sink as low
l2ounD
Member
I like this shot by dumb. The little light bounce from the yellow wall is nice.
I'm sorry but what's DD?
And you don't see the difference in LOD in the pictures below?
What detail is the fog masking exactly? I've seen you claim that a number of times but without ever explaining what you mean. Fog used to mask pop up or draw in but that hasn't been the case for generations, at least not how you insinuate here. We're not in the 32 bit generation where fog is used to mask a part of the scene. Fog, along with other alpha effects, is not free, so I'm curious what you think is being masked exactly.
What game is this?
thelastword
Banned
Yes, that was my take on it initially, only because I only watched the video at DF...When I did watch the screens, I wasn't aware there were screens initially, I was the first to tweet the devs about the discrepancy, which he responded to me in kind...and was patched....So if you think I'm some type of warrior, you'll be mistaken, I just want the best product commensurate with the power of each console.....
Where has this been confirmed? As a matter of fact, there are a few settings below PC's highest on the XBONEX. Refections, Mirrors amidst others....
Well, if anybody is cherry-picking bad driveclub screens, you know who they are...Why? because they know DC looks the best in motion, which is how we play games btw (in motion)...
So a game with lots of effects, PP, MB, weather and great lighting and trackside detail under numerous conditions and time of day, I'm sure you can find some bad screens that will blur the image or put it in a bad light in screens.....Hey, even worse, let's get some crappy Jpegs to make our point even more desperate.....
Btw, funny enough, I've not seen any one posting bad screens of Forza Horizon, why?.. you don't need to sink to those standards. Just post any youtube video of Forza vs DC, it could even be heavily compressed and the point is made from the first second of the video.....Why? because we play games in motion. It's the reason people hate gifs on here all of a sudden, because in motion (the way we play) is unequivocally in DC's favor and shows the superiority of it's visuals.....So anywhere DC is in motion, fans of other racers will put it down....Youtube videos, Gifs, in motion on your 4k screen, and don't be fooled if you think it was only 4k Tv's, these same people had nothing different to say with DC on a 1080p screen either..So you get the picture......
Btw, I try to play the games as much as I can, I did play the Forza Demo.....I'm really not a "going out at a friend's house to play DC type of guy" or any videogame for that matter, I own the game and I think the person who went to his friend's house to play DC is a big MS and Forza fan btw......so there's that...Anyway, don't let me stop you, carry on...
Self_Destructive
Member
Do you have screenshots showing these downgrades? The last analysis showed a match for the highest settings.
Also any thoughts on my last post at you? Inquiring minds want to know!
More Pcars 2 photomode shots:
Full size shots: https://www.flickr.com/photos/15539352@N02/sets/72157687605088095
Full size shots: https://www.flickr.com/photos/15539352@N02/sets/72157687605088095
icecold1983
Member
DF made a comparison. There are some higher settings on pc but they are quite minor
D'ultimate
Member
More Pcars 2 photomode shots:
Full size shots: https://www.flickr.com/photos/15539352@N02/sets/72157687605088095
Those are awesome shots. I think the game is a looker personally. Too bad about the controls. Definitely picking it up once they straighten it out.
Thanks! Yea it's too bad there seem to be some bugs affecting the controls on the consoles especially. I've played the game on my PC for 60+ hours with a wheel and a xbone controller and it's been perfect control wise.
They'll never (NEVER) fix it. Don't waste your money. It's an SMS game after all. Project Cars 3 will come and PC2 won't be fixed just like PC1 wasn't; just like Test Drive Ferrari wasn't; just like Shift 2 wasn't, just like Shift 1 wasn't.
EDIT: a studio surviving after 5 broken games must be a record, so... congrats SMS, yay!
Damn PCars 2 is a looker here. Are you playing on PC or on the PS4 Pro?
You can't fool anyone here, sorry.
PC with 1080 GTX. 60 FPS at 4K. 100-160 fps at 1080p. Certain weather conditions can drop it below 60 though at 4K.
Had you told me it was on the PS4 Pro, I would have rushed to the store to try it out.
But dr guildo posted some great-looking screens from the Pro version earlier. If Im disappointed with GTS demo next week (which would be surprising), Ill buy PC2 instead.
More Pcars 2 photomode shots:
Full size shots: https://www.flickr.com/photos/15539352@N02/sets/72157687605088095
Damn these are nice looking screens. Very nice.
Odd in the most recent video DF said the 1X matches ultra settings outside of AA differences.
https://youtu.be/XigqvWomVx4
So it controls well on PC with a controller? Hope that means the 360 controller as well. With my hesitation on Forza, I may go with PC. The reports of bugs turned me off from the game.
Wonder if I can hit a solid 60fps at 1440p.
In my experience PCars 1 was pretty much unplayable with a controller but Pcars 2 has been great with a controller so far. I haven't tried every car and weather condition though so reports of buggy cars with controllers may still be true. I just haven't encountered any.
Fredrik
Member
All the DC talk got me thinking, ex-Evolution's next game should look absolutely glorious now that they'll be on PC too and can go for the same awesome graphics without having to add blur to hide the low fps. I think we might get another "But can it run Crysis?" situation. Can't wait! 
Awesome thanks.
Chris Metal
Member
Soo whats happening here?
Verticillium Wilt.
Turn 10 obviously weren't as enthusiastic about bringing Maple Valley back as the fans were to see it return.
That's the Sonic 4 of race track revivals.
Soo whats happening here?
Different goals Forza 7 has been optimized to run on Xbox One , Xbox One X & PC plus it's one of the flagship 4K Xbox One X games so having it running at 4K 60fps is more important than the trees on the side of the road.
lol I was going to blame it on Gypsy Moth.
pixelation
Member
Soo whats happening here?
What the heck?, that is a real stepback!
Self_Destructive
Member
And the trees in Forza 7 still manage to look better than GT:S...
ss_lemonade
Member
Even in the first few seconds, you can see reflections on the car updating at a lower framerate, something which I think has always been the case in all other previous Forza games. The PC version gives the option for better reflections. Can't think of any other difference though.
Stand down soldier...
MilkyJoe
Member
I guess you'd rather appear to be an idiot then.
AbandonedTrolley
Member
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Nice. Are they working on anything?
Soo whats happening here?
This is crazy. Like its not even F6 thats being compared to but F4 on the 360 has better environments than F7 lol. The dynamic weather excuse just doesn't fly here when there's generational gap.
Forza 7 just isn't the graphical showcase many expected it to be.
Soo whats happening here?
i think they accidentally loaded the track with lighting set to 0 instead of 1.
Cross-Posting from the GTS thread:
How is the IQ of the base PS4 on a 4K-TV? Will upgrade from my 32", 7 year old LG to a 50" Sony 4K but right now, the pro simply looks like too much of a half step to justify the purchase.
Asking in the thread because i originally planned on spending (part of) the money on a wheel for GT, but i figured the game (well, and "games" in general) will profit more from a bigger screen with better colours etc.
How is the IQ of the base PS4 on a 4K-TV? Will upgrade from my 32", 7 year old LG to a 50" Sony 4K but right now, the pro simply looks like too much of a half step to justify the purchase.
Asking in the thread because i originally planned on spending (part of) the money on a wheel for GT, but i figured the game (well, and "games" in general) will profit more from a bigger screen with better colours etc.
FlutterPuffs
Member
Shit design for me tbh.Soo whats happening here?
I watched a few maple valley vids from previous games and they look much better, aesthetics wise. It lost a lot of its charm in Forza 7.
It's like Maple Valley has been commercialised in the Forza universe.
icecold1983
Member
it will be crap. 1080p does not magically look as good or better on a 4k tv
AbandonedTrolley
Member
A whole new IP for Codemasters. I believe they are based in Cheshire still under the team name of Codemasters Evo which I feel was a nice touch too.
It's not that FM4 has better environments than FM7. It has a better Maple Valley (somehow, I don't know wtf happened). If you compare pretty much any other track, FM7 will rightfully clown FM4 versions, as you would expect from a game in a different generation.
It's like they put a spare intern on the Maple Valley remake all alone.
dr guildo
Member
More Pcars 2 photomode shots:
Incredible shots, amazing work ! You nailed it !
What is the time of day settings, the season, the track and weather you selected for the first and last ones I quoted ?
I will try to replicate this on pro to see the difference in lighting... Thx in advance !
Again, good job !
1080p scales well. it'll look fine. now, if the base game was 900p or 720p. then yeah, it would look like shit.