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Nielsen report: The Mainstream appeal of Black Content
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Because there isn't a lot bankable minority actors partly because there either aren't many compared to white or they don't get much worthy roles. However because of that there isn't many bankable. It's a circle.
Grizzlyjin
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You just reminded me that The WB and UPN had so many Black sitcoms back in the day. Steve Harvey Show, Jamie Foxx Show, Sister Sister after ABC dropped it, The Smart Guy, The Parent-hood, etc.
Well Jermaine puts folks to sleep so...
Also Supergirl has to have a black writer, they have an episode about Jimmy's workplace rage as like the only black guy
Folks like episodic shows with weird continuity and a plot that never gets fully explained
UPN aka the U People Network...
And then UPN was gone
Chuckie
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Is there such a huge difference between TV and Hollywood? There are good 'black' series with great actors and actresses... why is this different in the movies? Or have black actors been able to break the circle in TV but not yet Hollywood?
Everybody forgets Flex and One on One.
Funny how the vast majority of shit that got dropped in the merger was UPN shit.
Not an expert but i imagine one of the reasons is that movies are riskier than tv shows and that tv show are less picky for their shows because they can afford to focus on a specific demographic.
Mobile Suit Gooch
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I'd love to see In living Color and Yo MTV Raps brought back.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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One on One was amazing, I can't believe it just got dropped.
In living color did come back. Didn't stay for long
chbrevolution
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I just rewatched this last Friday lol.
It took me years to put the connection together. I watched Living Single as a kid and Friends as a teenager. My mom and I had a conversation about different TV shows about 10 years ago I described Friends since she never watched it (she had a no black character no view from her policy when I was a kid) . She was like that's living single with a gender swap and a few different relationships (cousins Vs siblings). I goggled it and found the article from the 90s where the NBC president said he regretted not picking up living single that season and then the following year they made friends.
Ya. I was trying to list stuff that I thought had a lot of crossover. We also used to watch In Living Color, Moesha (and the Parkers), Malcolm and Eddie, and Living Single (as already mentioned), but WB20 and Fox/UPN50 were like the only clear channels we got. I had to watch the ABC stuff in syndicate on UPN.
Opticability
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When? And with who?
It got wack when they switch to the daughter's college friends and Kel from Good Burger was the landlord
Angelus Errare
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It's both. There aren't many because they're not given as many worthy roles. I mean we can sit and watch Hollywood prop up trash ass actors and try to give them a career even when all the signs point to no while at the same time not giving good/great black actors a chance, point in case:
One of these actors is amazing and talented as fuck in different fields who is rarely given roles to showcase that, the other is Taylor Kistch who was forced onto Americans and given the lead role for several multimillion dollar films that bombed one after the other.
Same issues Asians and Latinx actors/actresses face.
sixteen-bit
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Are there any shows about the HBCU experience since A Different World left the air 25 years ago? I loved that show and it's on Netflix now.
ryutaro's mama
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The Quad
There is a latino actor that been in like 50 shows and movies, his roles are either Latino gang memeber or "Hector the latino gang member"
Really hope this leads to network executives yanking their heads out of their asses.
The folks who control the purse-strings have so much power that a gut feeling like "black shows don't make money" can stop amazing material from being greenlit. Reports like this need to be shared everywhere until these producers realize that they're wrong.
The folks who control the purse-strings have so much power that a gut feeling like "black shows don't make money" can stop amazing material from being greenlit. Reports like this need to be shared everywhere until these producers realize that they're wrong.
Unspeakable Evil
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Hell even Nick tapped into the demo with Kenan and Kel and the first couple of seasons of All That.
Hell even Nick tapped into the demo with Kenan and Kel and the first couple of seasons of All That.
Goo Punch!!
Angelus Errare
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Hell even Nick tapped into the demo with Kenan and Kel and the first couple of seasons of All That.
Don't forget Cousin Skeeter and Famous Jet Jackson
It has two episodes as pilots in 2012.
http://thecomicscomic.com/2012/04/03/meet-the-new-cast-of-foxs-in-living-color-reboot/
ratcliffja
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How could they get rid of that show and keep Cousin Skeeter? Man life isn't fair sometimes.
Goo Punch!!
Edit: I mean it's fine if they kept both, but they were two shows with a similar makeup, but the good show was dumped after one season while the garbage one stayed around far too long. I guess I shouldn't have held my breath for a new season. :-(
Uh, I'd change places with Chris Rock. Not that I don't get his point.
Why the hell is the Hispanics number so low? (Leaving aside that with the ridiculously low bar of some level of influence on mainstream culture those numbers should be 99.9% anyhow.)
Nah, I grew up in one of the most educated and affluent areas of the country (had one black person in my parochial elementary school class growing up, public high school was still only 6% black) but I remember watching Cosby Show, Family Matters, Fresh Price, etc. because it was always on WB or the like. Have there been any articles about what happened to them in terms of trends? In some ways it does feel like we've regressed since then.
Unspeakable Evil
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Come to think it shows like Static Shock and Proud Family would be hard to make this day and age.
chbrevolution
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The 90s and early 00s where a great time for black media on/in the mainstream. It was a lot of opportunities available. UPN use to be made fun of but it was so important. If you were black and had an idea for a show your could at least go to UPN and have an opportunity. Sink or swim you could at least get a few episodes to air. There was a culture shift right before Obama got elected that iced black media and art out the mainstream.
tearsintherain
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I mean most people think The Wire is the best TV show ever made so its hard to see why this is a debate or something? TV seems like a much easier place for minority folks to get on screen but more importantly work behind the screens, whether its running shows, writing them, or crew.
The tougher place is the big screen, movies, especially big summer blockbusters. A lot of that has to do with simple worldwide box office receipt economics, whereas with TV you have multiple ways to make money - ad $$ and product placement for network TV, eyeballs for premium cable networks, and a more complicated mix of factors for places like Netflix or Amazon.
Although now that I think about it, aren't most of the netflix and amazon prime series mostly white? They do have a few like Masters of None or Marco Polo (cancelled) but I'm sorta drawing a blank on shows that heavily feature black actors. Is that a bad sign for the future if global reach delivery systems like netflix/amazon have a hard time funding minority shows?
The tougher place is the big screen, movies, especially big summer blockbusters. A lot of that has to do with simple worldwide box office receipt economics, whereas with TV you have multiple ways to make money - ad $$ and product placement for network TV, eyeballs for premium cable networks, and a more complicated mix of factors for places like Netflix or Amazon.
Although now that I think about it, aren't most of the netflix and amazon prime series mostly white? They do have a few like Masters of None or Marco Polo (cancelled) but I'm sorta drawing a blank on shows that heavily feature black actors. Is that a bad sign for the future if global reach delivery systems like netflix/amazon have a hard time funding minority shows?
Opticability
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Tyler Perry has a monopoly on them and therein lies your answer.
TDLink
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Things are changing, slowly sure...but they are. Just the fact that we're getting stuff like Hidden Figures and Moonlight. Or Creed the previous year. Or TV shows like Empire and Atlanta. It's not much but it's a good start. And there will continue to be an increasing amount. I am positive next award season will have more black centered films. And the Fast and Furious franchise (while not black specifically) proves that the big budget movies can center around non-white casts as well and still be ridiculously successful. Hollywood -is- changing. It just is requiring some patience.
TurnipFritters
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UPN fused with The WB to produce The CW, or as the kids called it "Basically just The WB but with America's Next Top Model" (though I think Girlfriends and Everybody Hates Chris survived to The CW - Veronica Mars too)
TDLink
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In addition to those you mentioned, Luke Cage, Narcos, Sense8, The Get Down, Orange is the New Black and several of their original films (remember Beasts of No Nation?) are all highly diverse/non-white . I don't think Netflix is doing a bad job with this.
TurnipFritters
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Last year Netflix had two different shows with storylines about how the real victims of gentrification are old white ladies. It could be better is what I'm saying.
Lord Frieza
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What shows were those?
which shows plus context
TDLink
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I don't think you would have seen a show like Narcos in the US or something like The Get Down even made without Netflix. They're doing some good work in terms of diverse programming is all I'm saying. Netflix is making shows for all demographics, and that's good considering most others prioritize 18-49 white people specifically.
Captin Quacker
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Waits for China poster
BKatastrophe
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Well, watching Empire and Black-ish are two of the best things you could be doing with your time.
Frozenprince
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If it makes money in China we might finally get more than Tyler Perry and Marlon Wayans getting wide releases.
OG Shaka Zulu
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The Living Single/Friends thing ruined my morning. Wow.
And I hate how people get turned off if the show is seen as too black. I recommend The Wire to my in-laws whenever we talk about TV in general or policing and race. I know damn well they'd tune out because all that yo stuff.
And I hate how people get turned off if the show is seen as too black. I recommend The Wire to my in-laws whenever we talk about TV in general or policing and race. I know damn well they'd tune out because all that yo stuff.
UnemployedVillain
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pretty done
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Atlanta is way better. Top 3 of 2016 for sure.
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