JeffAtomsky
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Nintendo Deletes Every Stage By Prominent Mario Maker Speedrunner (Kotaku)
- Thread starter Tom Nook Sawyer
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SerTapTap
Member
There's dozens of streamers that pretty much do nothing but play these super hard levels in submissions or commit to playing ANY 100 mario challenge level no matter how brutal. I'm sure there's a few times as many people who don't want to stream or who aren't popular enough to show in the top streams stuff.
It's definitely a valid way to play this game, and Nintendo blatantly encouraged this sort of level from even before launch with their Nintendo World Championship thing. In fact most of the levels they seem to show in pre-release marketing were "look how crazy/hard this is!"
Movalpolos
Banned
orthodoxy1095
Banned
Would you sing the same tune if all your stuff was deleted?
"I'd care more if there weren't 7 million other stages I could create."
dreamcastmaster
Banned
This really needs to be more known so these stories can stop.
OfTheOverflow
Member
Really don't know why, I mean other than older gamer's nostalgia, we still give Nintendo a pass on being pretty anti-consumer and so behind the times.
APZonerunner
Member
You realize this is just the latest occurrence in a long line of stories about this same issue Kotaku has been running? This isn't an isolated incident. There's a pattern.
cj_iwakura
Member
Nintendo are so anti-consumer that it terrifies me how popular they remain. If it wasn't for the third party software, I'd never own one of their systems.
Huh?
I think you have the wrong company...
NHarmonic.
Member
This is a bummer.
Get it together nintendo.
Get it together nintendo.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
And you seem to have crawled in here without knowing the history of what's going on.
Y'all seem to forget the 3DS exists.
Is this really a thing?
You generally elect to play levels unless playing 100 marios. They recently added super expert 100 mario challenge too so I doubt Nintendo is against hard levels. In any case, if they did want to disable levels that were often skipped it would be far better to prevent them from showing up in the 100 marios challenges than to completely remove them from the service. That could be a simple hidden flag that blacklists them from 100 marios.
But, thinking a bit more, it does suck that the ability to share levels online is competely controlled by NIntendo. Whenever they end the service, the game will be gutted. Same thing for Splatoon.
Astral Dog
Member
This is going to be fun when the NX arrives.
Stormhammer
Member
what if nintendo is using mario maker to get some fresh ideas for levels, seeing things they like and taking them down so they can make similar levels in a new mario game and claim them as a fresh take
they're going to allow people to create their own controller layout, but then delete it if less than 10 000 people gave your setup a repost on MySpace
EatinOlives
Member
The worst part about this is that Nintendo didn't even delete levels since day 1. They just started randomly doing it late last year for no reason.
So they had something that worked pretty well, then willingly went and fucked with it. It's astounding they continue to fuck things up at this day and age.
So they had something that worked pretty well, then willingly went and fucked with it. It's astounding they continue to fuck things up at this day and age.
cj_iwakura
Member
No, I mean what I said. I'm no fan of their IPs.
Bobs Big Boy
Member
Easy, guy.
What if being a speed runner makes him more knowledgeable about certain sprites that are more prone to glitches under certain arrangements and he's figured out how to exploit those glitches?
Wasn't there a glitch a while back that made them have to shut their server down or something? Maybe it's a similar situation so they just wiped all his levels to be safe.
Wasn't there a glitch a while back that made them have to shut their server down or something? Maybe it's a similar situation so they just wiped all his levels to be safe.
I don't think anyone was claiming that the quality of levels available or the discoverability of good levels was acceptable at or near launch.
Spladam
Member
Ah Nintendo and their silence, Nintendo is like the North Korea of video gaming, in their own little world, oblivious to the greater reality.
David GrandPOObear Hunt will never know what he did to anger Nintendo, and they don't care if that bothers anyone, as they have the same loyalty to their fans as Kim Jong-un has towards his people. I use to be such a fan of Nintendo growing up, a lover of their games and a huge fan of Miyamoto-san. now Nintendo is all but dead to me.
Now if only they would just give up on the console business and let me play the latest Zelda, Metroid, and Mario games on my PC.
David GrandPOObear Hunt will never know what he did to anger Nintendo, and they don't care if that bothers anyone, as they have the same loyalty to their fans as Kim Jong-un has towards his people. I use to be such a fan of Nintendo growing up, a lover of their games and a huge fan of Miyamoto-san. now Nintendo is all but dead to me.
Now if only they would just give up on the console business and let me play the latest Zelda, Metroid, and Mario games on my PC.
I had a level deleted in late September/early October. Wasn't that hard, but people kept having trouble beating it for some reason. (Think it was due to people not realizing if you release a shell in the same square as the rebound that it goes right through you.) *shrugs* I just figured it was due to too many people dying on my level, and went on. Only saw complaints about people's levels being deleted late last year, but it was going on well before that. Not a surprising thing, since they told us they'd be doing deletions.
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
It's always fascinating what lowbrow drive-bys these topics can attract.
What's there to say? The creator in the article used "poo" in the titles of many of the levels, while SMM level uploaders must confirm to the Miiverse code of conduct which forbids it. It's about the Miiverse rules and a PEGI 3 rated game, nothing else.
Levels randomly disappearing for no obvious reason is another thing. Nintendo has warned about it happening since the start (such as if a level isn't popular), but it's a bummer to the creator anyway.
Jon Carter
Member
My levels were all deleted in the order in which I had uploaded them, so I assumed it was some normal automatic action that took place after a while for X reason I didn't bother looking into. Other people still have all their levels up?
protomouse
Member
I guess you can't have a thread without shit-posts like this ¯ _(ツ
_/¯.Anyway, I dunno why they would delete anything that hasn't been flagged or doesn't violate any rules. One of my levels was also deleted.
Triggerhappytel
Member
Just because they can doesn't mean they should. It's a really good way of pissing off the audience and achieves little else.
7DollarHagane
Banned
Expecting a first line customer service rep to know or have access to anything but a canned response is oblivious.
The teams that would know anything about this don't take customer calls.
It will probably take a few days but someone will look into it and figure out what went wrong.
Some classic Nintendo hyperbole going on in this thread.
Damn, those levels must have taken ages to build, they look great for the hardcore players too. Deleting them without giving any reason why would piss me off so much if I were him. Fuck them.
AyaisMUsikWhore
Member
This is so childish and petty. So Nintendo decided to remove them because they created a level that only they can complete or something? Was the rules already set that made these creators levels "illegal" in that sense? I'm really not seeing why they needed to do this because from what I'm seeing, these levels are not offensive at all. Wtf
?? Who said this thing
There are tons of "Kaizo" levels out there. It was probably a malfunctioning on their database or their bot.
-His whole account got wiped, not just a few levels-
dreamlongdead
Member
It is really sad to read all of the negative news surrounding Super Mario Maker, because this a somewhat fresh title for Nintendo and it looks fun.
Like others have said, Nintendo really should not (and can't afford to) screw this up.
Did Sony ever behave this way with the Little Big Planet games?
Like others have said, Nintendo really should not (and can't afford to) screw this up.
Did Sony ever behave this way with the Little Big Planet games?
Maintenance
Member
Nintendo making a mess, why am I not surprised.
Zombie James
Banned
I don't understand why users don't get a proper explanation. They should at the very least get that. Does their system seriously not record why a level was taken down and by whom? This sounds so basic.
As others have said, Nintendo, enough said.
The problem is they still desperately want this kid friendly image about them, despite most of their fanbase not consisting of that anymore, and really, that image isn't good for them anymore in my opinion.
Penis, boob, etc. levels I can understand being removed, (Though I don't think they should, they're never going to be able to stop all of it, maybe make some effort to take them down, but not an extreme amount of effort), but it seems they're being very harsh for a lot of it simply.
The problem is they still desperately want this kid friendly image about them, despite most of their fanbase not consisting of that anymore, and really, that image isn't good for them anymore in my opinion.
Penis, boob, etc. levels I can understand being removed, (Though I don't think they should, they're never going to be able to stop all of it, maybe make some effort to take them down, but not an extreme amount of effort), but it seems they're being very harsh for a lot of it simply.
Starwolf_UK
Member
I really dislike "computer says no" responses and I'm also confused how 1.267 million levels have been uploaded is a selling point on second and the next second it is half have been deleted due to never being played or other reasons.
But as for our dear POOmaster or whatever he calls himself...
"even the ones that didn’t include joking references to poo (i.e. OOP fo elip: doesn’t feel right)"
Even if removal reason is or isn't Poo saying that stage name has no reference to poo is like a 13 year old internet trolls logic of "you said I shouldn't swear and I said sh¡t which is not swearing". You know what you did (in case you've not figured out the da vinci code in that stage name
).
Wouldn't be surprised if the keys are given to the Miiverse moderators who can be extremely overzealous as in better not accidentally say PM especially not in Smash Bros as clearly you are talking about Project M or inviting people to Private Message you (that's communication, a no-no in Nintendo Land) and not Paper Mario. Ever.
http://www.1up.com/news/big-planet-levels-deleted-due
But as for our dear POOmaster or whatever he calls himself...
"even the ones that didn’t include joking references to poo (i.e. OOP fo elip: doesn’t feel right)"
Even if removal reason is or isn't Poo saying that stage name has no reference to poo is like a 13 year old internet trolls logic of "you said I shouldn't swear and I said sh¡t which is not swearing". You know what you did (in case you've not figured out the da vinci code in that stage name
pile of POO
Wouldn't be surprised if the keys are given to the Miiverse moderators who can be extremely overzealous as in better not accidentally say PM especially not in Smash Bros as clearly you are talking about Project M or inviting people to Private Message you (that's communication, a no-no in Nintendo Land) and not Paper Mario. Ever.
I can only imagine if they had such a thing the person running it would be driven to insanity in no time at all based on the kind of tweets the official Nintendo accounts receive (where most people posting know Nintendo isn't going to read them).
Yes and an earthbound fan site once found there were something like 14 people with the name Poo in America.
What the...? I was under the impression Smash Bros was meant to properly ban and tell you why rather than put you in the naughty boys room without telling you.
I don't want to imagine what a naughty boys Mario Maker server would be...either 120% bad Kaizo (multiple paths all but one of which lead to death and invisible blocks that play the laughter noise) or automated levels
Kind of?
http://www.1up.com/news/big-planet-levels-deleted-due
Yet it's not pissing off the audience. It's pissing off select people. The audience at large likely doesn't care. People shouldn't be equating a person or a group of people being upset about something like this to the entire audience. There are millions of levels out there and Nintendo did warn that levels would be removed over time. They're still on one's system but as you make more and more you'd likely want your newer levels out there for others to play and not the ones you first made anyway.
There is clearly an automated system in place. There would have to be with so many levels out there. There also has to be certain conditions to be meet before something is deleted. No way it's random. It's likely a combination of how long the level has existed, how many times it's passed by, completion percentage, rating, maybe item elements in the game (are there a lot of projectiles vs lack of projectiles for example), etc. Maybe a hard to complete and passed over level with a lot of projectiles might get flagged over and before a level without them for example. Maybe the system detects far to many spikes or to many deaths in a particular part of the level combined with a extremely low completion rate. Hell maybe the name of the user triggered something or all the levels hit all the same elements the system uses to remove a level. If all the levels got removed there has to be a lot of common factors at play.
Portugeezer
Member
Sucks for him.
randomengine
Banned
Nintendo should do this with all streamers. The game is meant to be played for fun, not for financial benefit. I hope Nintendo deletes all the levels from known streamer accounts.
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