Do you know how the PS4 let's you use a virtual pointer by tilting the controller for messages and such? Maybe that could be how they'll do it.
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Nintendo files multiple Nintendo Switch patents (controller, dock, architecture*)
jwillenn
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One of the demonstrations I am most excited to see soon (hopefully next month) is IR working WITH a secondary analog stick for a different control style. Show me a First or Third Person Shooter that allows the player to change view/control camera with the right analog stick while aiming (and ONLY aiming, not turning once across adjusted boundaries) is done via IR pointing. I've been wondering how good that could be since the Wii days, and now it seems we may have an opportunity to find out.
Father_Brain
Banned
That would directly go against the main USP of the system, so I would think not.
I hope developers really explore this kind of thing, because with the power of the system, they'll be able to realize their graphical ambitions and also experiment with various control configs. That has me the most excited and with that knowledge, I think I'll be getting a NS on day 1.
Ricerocket
Member
Interesting, there is a fan running in portable mode.
Wandering Robot
Member
There are so many beautiful things going on with this console. Thanks for the thread, Rösti! All this info needs to get dissected.
Pointer can replace touch screen in console mode if needs be
Okami Haundo
Member
The common theory (or at least my own) seems to be that touchscreen games will work while docked by using the IR pointer. I just can't see them allowing a control method that doesn't work in both of those modes.
th3sicknness
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Is it really that impressive ? Tablets and phones are doing similar things with a smaller form factor.
JonnyDBrit
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So, auto-adjusting lighting like a phone, and the submitted design has a power button like the 3DS, where it can be used for sleep mode and turning on/off, but they considered separate buttons too?
Also, confirmed for headphone jack on the top of the unit, next to the cart slot.
I'm concerned that no one seems concerned about this.
Man, we already have people calling the need to buy another Switch for full multiplayer brilliant. Gah.
Like sure, it works, but it's another limiting factor.
Very excited about the chance to play another Zelda with a split controller. It was incredibly comfortable in Twilight Princess.
Also glad there are three gyros in this thing. It needed to have those in each joycon side.
Also glad there are three gyros in this thing. It needed to have those in each joycon side.
Uh, how many phones you seeing with attachable controller halves?
I can see Nintendo enforcing traditional controls on every single game made for the Switch. If not, as it was rumoured, the IR pointer might do the job.
Graphics Horse
Member
Neat, thanks Rösti
chertipros
Member
How would an IR pointer simulate multi touch?
Toadthemushroom
Member
The only smart device that has focused on this sort of hybrid functionality and led the market on it is probably 2012's Surface RT with Kickstand and type cover.
The Surface Book is also a pretty neat idea - it uses a muscle wire fulcrum hinge to attach a tablet to a proper laptop base. You can take off the screen and have a full tablet, but you can also re-attach the screen the other way round to use the device like a clipboard or watch movies more easily. The GPU is in the base, but the main internals are in the screen portion.
I don't see why they would need to do that. There can be a whole section in the eShop dedicated to touchscreen-only/portable-only games and as long as people would buy them there would be no problem IMO.
Also, like mentioned above, an IR pointer can't replace multi-touch adequately at all.
I'm sure this depends on the game. I imagine some games will have 4 player multiplayer on one NS. Others may require two systems. I really want there to be a PSO 2 version released on the NS. I would buy another NS so my wife and I could play together. It probably could work on the same screen like the GC version, but having that full TV experience would be best.
AusRoachman
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All I need to know is the price and what games at launch.
Ah screw it they already have me sold on this thing
Ah screw it they already have me sold on this thing
it says there are wired and wireless data connections...
Skittzo0413
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th3sicknness
Member
What are you considering hybrid functionality?
James Scott
Banned
The pro controller exists
Deadpool_X
Banned
Remember that Reddit leaker who claimed to be from the future and said that there would be a VR headset for the system? Hmmmm...Biff Tannon coming back to warn us?
Toadthemushroom
Member
The Switch packing in two split controllers and a kickstand that allow you to interact with the device in a variety of ways. It's not just a portable device, but one that comes with two separate multiplayer controllers that can be used in any orientation, and one that can be easily docked to the TV for single player use as well.
Smart devices don't do this sort of thing. If you're in the Apple ecosystem you buy an iPhone and an Apple TV. An additional Siri Remote is $79, or you can use your iPod Touch or an iPhone as an extra controller.
Apple does a great job of making sure all the devices in its ecosystem play well with each other so you have a reason to have an iPad, iPhone and Apple TV (and Apple Watch if you're into fitness stuff), Nintendo's starting their new platform by offering it all in one.
Yeah, but each pair of these is equivalent to a pro controller and they've conveniently left a 4 player pro controller setup out of the trailer, and now also the patents. It's starting to become concerning. And I feel like people will quietly accept that because as long as there's "trial" 4-player with 4 joycons and LAN-like play they'll be good.
YAY!
That's not the point I was trying to make. If two people have their Switch with them, they could play for example a 4 player Mario Kart on one single console. I thought it was going to be 2 Joy Cons max per console. Players and always use their own Pro controllers or whatever.
JonnyDBrit
Member
So... portable mode uses wi-fi, but if docked it can take advantage of an ethernet connection.
Xdrive05
Member
Ha! Either that or Smurfs are the target demo.
Skittzo0413
Member
That's not to say the final product will have ethernet support, just that the patent supports it.
Though I wouldn't be surprised if the dock supported a USB to ethernet adapter.
Shouldn't be too difficult to implement.
JonnyDBrit
Member
Given the size of slot 24, my guess is they're aiming for MicroSD for the storage.
Likely not.
That's just in theory, but the dock has no ethernet connection.
Probably you get and USB adaptor.
Oh God please, let it be true.
I'm looking for the 4 player+ Pro Controller on one console setup seen on Wii U and every previous Nintendo home console and nothing in these patents confirms it so far. For a local multiplayer console, that's kind of a big limit for anything past casual play or having multiple Switches.
Be nice if anyone can dig up any info on that, you'd think patents would detail if it was possible for more wireless connections but the lack of it is concerning.
Except you don't have to do that. You can either buy three pro controllers or, if Nintendo puts them out, three pairs of Joy-Cons. Where is there any indication that you need to buy two Switches for 4 player gameplay?
It was never going to have it. People were fools to even think it would.
TheXfactor
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Skittzo0413
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