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No Halo 4 for 2013's MLG circuit
- Thread starter SteveO409
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i really, really, really do not like halo 4
and i don't like people saying its because sci-fi games have trouble... i don't believe that. maybe, just maybe, halo 4 failed at most things outside of looking amazing. i played it for a week and haven't touched it since. i don't even know if there's one thing that i could point out either.
an agenda that he's disappointed in halo 4
heresy
and i don't like people saying its because sci-fi games have trouble... i don't believe that. maybe, just maybe, halo 4 failed at most things outside of looking amazing. i played it for a week and haven't touched it since. i don't even know if there's one thing that i could point out either.
an agenda that he's disappointed in halo 4
heresy
You're acting as if Halo 4 was a Devil May Cry 2 type of sequel.
Syphon Filter
Member
Well i love the franchise a lot so of course i will call it a disgrace. Never have i seen a franchise being as ruined and i have seen many. I still hope they can turn it around with Halo 5.
SomeOneInaHat
Member
This is what happens when you change too much shit in an already successful franchise.
Where did I say it wasn't valid to say Halo 4 is not a bad game? That is what most you don't understand, 11 post to say basically the same thing is stupid. It is trolling. It stops being a relevent opinion when you basically start shoving it down peoples throats while using juvenile language to get your point across.
You live in some fantasy world where people praise Halo 4 all day in the HaloGAF threads. It's a myth. You want a decent post I made recently? Here.
Um, not much was changed with Halo 4?
Its not indoctrination.
Juvenile language, care to specify?
I also like how 'the same thing' is now 'basically the same thing'.
Are you fucking kidding or just trying to start a massive flame war? What do you mean ruined? Halo 4 scored amazingly everywhere and was not only called a worthy successor but improved on everything Bungie envisioned. The campaign was incredible and multiplayer is easily the best since CE.
I know you can't be serious so I'll just let it go.
Wow. Kinda shocked at this, and a little saddened because Halo at MLG has provided some amazing moments.
"WALSHY!!! OH MY!! THATS GOING IN THE TOP 10"
"WALSHY!!! OH MY!! THATS GOING IN THE TOP 10"
It's really dumb though.
Why can't he be serious? He's just sharing his opinion.
You liked Halo 4. fantastic, I love it too but him saying he doesn't doesn't mean he's starting a flame war.
NullPointer
Member
quoted for absolute truth.
SomeOneInaHat
Member
Have you played the multiplayer?
- No default basic weapon spawns
- No File Sharing
- Worse forge
- No Asymmetric gametypes
- No Eggheads allowed
- Instant respawn
- Non-functioning features like final killcams
- Level glitches
- Boltshot
- BOLTSHOT
- and many many more
They need Microsoft's permission to run halo tournaments, and game companies never want tournaments promoting old versions of their games.
This is fine and I respect that - but you can't call people wrong because they have their own opinion that doesn't overlap with yours (of course you didn't say it like that, but reading your previous posts in this thread you didn't seem to respect Proelite's opinion)
I can see what many veterans hate about Halo 4 and maybe I would feel the same way if I was focused on the franchise as heavily as you - but as a gamer who plays a lot of different genres, I must say that overall Halo 4 has a cool campaign and a multiplayer which can be enjoyed in short bursts.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
This
Contradicts your statement above. You are basically insinuating that Halo being bad is a fact and he's just running from the truth. Not that you are sharing an opinion. Not picking on you, this is just what I see.
PsihoPerihelion
Member
Finally Medal of Honor Warfighter will have its CHANCE! 
Emphasis on Spartan IV's, whom alone do more than their fair share in representing the increasing loss in soullessness of Halo.
Syphon Filter
Member
I'm dead serious and those reviews mean nothing to be as i know they aren't true fans of the series. The campaign is uninspired with terrible character design and the story is convoluted. It's also very repetitive having you push switches and quick time buttons. The multiplayer is putrid in every sense of the word. Now weapons spawn randomly causing an imbalance to the gameplay. That is not even mentioning the perks,loadouts and kill streaks adding even more randomness. That is just the start too,i don't want to write a book.
Now your opinion is greater than his opinion.
(especially since game reviews are lol now too)
They can't even get updates out properly and they've got completely broken game modes as well. MP is a mess and the UI is an eyesore.
I'm sure someone on GAF has made some sort of huge "Why I hate this game" list by now.
Oh yeah they changed the multiplayer a little bit, it's really not that diffrent compared to previous Halo's
Doug Heffernan
Member
Based on what?
Halo 4 isn't even close to being what you refer to as "trash."
Old Halo games were fundamentally fair in that any advantage you had came from being better at the game. This one has unlocks and perks and gameplay-affecting specializations that you can't access yet if you didn't buy the special edition.
Yes, HUGE change to the series, I didn't even know it was a Halo game at first.
SirIgbyCeaser
Banned
Surprise it's resistance 3 !
I don't really know where you stand, so I'm not sure which of your posts is the sarcastic one.
It was sarcastic.
Flame Lord
Member
In that list only 2 things are actually changes.
NullPointer
Member
This "true fans" shit really is the worst. Halo is much bigger than any individual group here and caters to far more than just one or another competitive community. Stinkles said it himself before Halo 4 released that more than 50% of players don't even try the versus multiplayer. Let that sink in a bit...
Please realize that Halo, at its core, is different for different players, and the series has had notable changes between installments even when it was all under Bungie.
Thanks for being condescending. It's not like trolling is bullshit or whatever. I must be some huge fanboy, it's not like I can be critical or something.
Oh, so you're speaking for the true fans now. Gotcha.
I'll agree on the convoluted story, character models look much better and more alive.
Yeah, because past Halos had a lot of puzzle solving and you never held the X button to push a button before. There were also two quick time events through the entire game.
The BR and DMR can dispose of enemies from a long range, power weapons are now used in the moment rather than being a main battle plan. The randomness doesn't change the usefulness of the power weapon, just how you use it.
Perks literally change one or two aspects, none of them are really overpowered. Armor abilities have been improved greatly from Reach.
Prothean vision doesn't make bad players good. Ordinance drops aren't even in any of the objective gametypes, also once again the base weapons you start with can dispose of people very easily. Why do loadouts in of itself make the game worst?
LAUGHTREY
Modesty becomes a woman
Blizzards support of MLG with Starcraft 2 is good for the series in terms of sales and mind-share by keeping the game competitive and interesting to watch, True or False?
I rest my case.
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Deleted member 1235
Unconfirmed Member
Haven't a bunch of people said already that Virgin got the competitive stuff?
MLG raised Halo awareness and sales?
Halo 2 put MLG on the map for FPS console tourneys, MLG didn't make or break Halo at all.
NullPointer
Member
OK? I'm all for more competitive options on top of the base game. But just because its not on MLG or not being treated as a true e-sport doesn't really matter to my own enjoyment of the game. Maybe it would if I was being paid to play or stream it, but that's not the case.
This too.
Netcode is not very good anymore. Low population of players.
The fuck are you even talking about lol
Dude voices his opinion and its trolling - I'm not even being condescending but you're making it sound like a guy saying that he doesn't like something is going to somehow convert true believers or water down an already watered down debate.
FunkyMunkey
Banned
It's really frustrating to read people's posts about "I don't want to hear Halo 4 is bad because it's being called a CoD-clone or compared to other Halos! I want to hear why it's bad on its own merits!". And yet, there have been articles posted time and time again that dissect and analyze Halo 4 multiplayer, along with thought-out and objective posts from many here(especially in the OTs) that show how the game is fundamentally flawed in the competitive sense.
What you're thinking about is MS not allowing YouTubers who don't have any sort of deal with MS to earn money off of Halo 4 videos. I doubt that has to do with anything.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
LAUGHTREY
Modesty becomes a woman
Virgin is running a (crappy) contest in the game.
It's like advertising to people who've already got your game. What's the point? Pretty sure Blizzard does both anyway.
This isn't exactly a condemnation of the competitiveness of Halo 4 sadly, people will still be able to slither around the fact that it looks like MLG tried to get a hold of it to play it. IMO if they really wanted it they would've got it. If not, then 343/MS is stupid for not supporting it and clearly don't know what they're doing anyway. There's no saving face here.
If the entire point of any sort of competition like the Virgin one or the MLG one is to boost sales/retention for DLC, then how come the player count keeps steadily dropping? It's clearly not working. The numbers don't lie, they dun goof'd.
Fact is is it's unplayable as a competitive shooter. Anyone with any sort of knowledge knows that. It's like saying the NBA should play like the Harlem Globetrotters. It's fleeting at best.
If instant respawns is so good, how come every Halo gametype MLG has ever played didn't use it?
Heart Attack
Member
So many casual Halo Fans defending Halo 4... nothing new. No wonder it got those "high" review scores.
These last few Halo threads have made it more and more apparent that 343 achieved their goal with Halo 4 in finding a new audience and dumping their old one. Unfortunately their new one seems to be much smaller than their old one, made up mostly of tired CoD converts. Though it seems that exactly who they wanted.
It's worse than getting dumped via text because I spent a bunch of money on it. Can't fool me again.
It's worse than getting dumped via text because I spent a bunch of money on it. Can't fool me again.