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[The Faceless Master]

Does it really matter what rumble it's getting. We should just be grateful we're getting rumble in the first place.

yeah, honestly, rumble is a BIG PLUS for me, next gen rumble would be an additional bonus, but just having rumble back period is the real jump

 

[sprocket]

Doesn't matter what any PR or journalist says. They're not exactly reliable in all cases.

I say wait until someone tears one open.

You don't have to tear one open .. id its touch sense then it well be able to smooth go from slow to fast. Like reving an engine.

and again nothing is confirmed here.

 

[Raist]

I don't get why no journalist has called immersion yet.

Maybe they'd speak now that it's officially announced by Sony.

 

[Mrbob]

Why would Ryan lie about something like this?

 

[kevm3]

Sony's PR really needs to get it together. If it's new technology, TELL us.

 

[Opus Angelorum]

It's possible that both are right. Maybe the tech is the same but it does things no other controller has done before?

But then if you didn't need new tech to do that why haven't any PS2 or X360 games done more than just simple vibration?

Doesn't add up to be honest.

I think you're on the right track, in terms of the hardware used it may well be identical however how it is programmed is what is different.

 

[PkunkFury]

and FUD starts.

Yeah i figured it BS. But you know any little negative thing said about the ps3 true or false.. ehh you know.

you do realise this imformation is coming directly from SCEA, yes? Why would SCEA spread FUD about Sony? It may be false info, but reporting something from the company directly is not FUD :\

 

[DeaconKnowledge]

The entire concept of "Next-gen rumble" makes me laugh. People were actually expecting this?

 

[Tobor]

I think you're on the right track, in terms of the hardware used it may well be identical however how it is programmed is what is different.

This is a much safer assumption.

 

[koam]

It was buggy, and not really available during gameplay. [..] best rumble ever

Heh i didn't even remove anything important.

 

[Jacobi]

Why would Ryan lie about something like this?

to get 1up more views

WE'RE ONTO SOMETHING GUIS

 

[Evlar]

It's possible that both are right. Maybe the tech is the same but it does things no other controller has done before?

But then if you didn't need new tech to do that why haven't any PS2 or X360 games done more than just simple vibration?

Doesn't add up to be honest.

One of the problems that I can think of with doing directional rumble on the DualShock 2 is that the two flywheels are different weights (the lefthand wheel is more massive if I remember correctly). This produces a difference in amplitude that's useful for some purposes (allows the feedback to simulate small rocks and large rocks on a race track for instance) but overwhelms any direction input you may feel. Your brains recognizes the heavy shake/light shake difference more readily than the left shake/right shake difference.

 

[jamesb23]

I don't get why no journalist has called immersion yet.

Maybe they'd speak now that it's officially announced by Sony.

Multiple attempts already, and they said go speak to Sony.

 

[CrunchinJelly]

The entire concept of "Next-gen rumble" makes me laugh. People were actually expecting this?

It's like I entered a time warp to 1996.

 

[duk]

At least rumble is back.

 

[Aalyx]

Guess we'll have to wait and see.

I was expecting it to have 2 large motors on either side of the controller with a 3rd smaller motor to provide more subtle effects.

 

[Bebpo]

Heh i didn't even remove anything important.

So rumble in cutscenes do not count...what? This is simply about whether the controller is doing rumble in a way not felt before.

The entire concept of "Next-gen rumble" makes me laugh. People were actually expecting this?

It sounds better than the rumble in the Wiimote, so can't really complain.

 

[castle007]

uh oh?? It doesn't matter to me. I don't really care about rumble that much, although I would have appreciated it in GOW2 :lol (I played it on my PS3)


Also, I can't believe the media is commenting on rumble in PS3 games previews :lol

It makes it feel like I am reading a preview for a PS1 game

 

[Blueblur1]

This is just some miscommunication at SCEA like always. They also say there is no difference between old PSP and new PSP screens.

Gonna have to wait to find out if this is true. Spring 2008, right?

 

[Metalmurphy]

It's funny how some people just filter some posts in this thread :lol

 

[Raist]

Multiple attempts already, and they said go speak to Sony.

I think the "no comments" from Immersion were before Hirai's keynote, didn't it ?

 

[jamesb23]

So you didn't even try the controller? Did you :lol :lol

Seems like your out to get Sony in most of the threads you've started.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=151692
:lol

Yes by reporting exactly what SCEA tells me means that I'm "out to get" Sony.

 

[leroy hacker]

Those 1up hands-on reports seem fishy to me. Dualshock rumble was stereo also. That's what the word dual meant.

The dualshock motors were widely underutilized. Compare the rumble in Metal Gear Solid, such as when the helicopter is taking off, to all the games that use the rumble just to have the controller shake at maximum strength whenever there's an explosion on-screen.

However, it would be possible to get more subtle rumble with the same motors if you could vary the current going into them-though if one had this there would no reason to use asymmetric motors anymore, so you wouldn't use the same pair of motors.

 

[Dahbomb]

The word "Confirmed" has lost all meaning now.

 

[Bebpo]

Gonna have to wait to find out if this is true. Spring 2008, right?

November. Can't wait to see how Uncharted uses it.

Yes by reporting exactly what SCEA tells me means that I'm "out to get" Sony.

Yeah, I've got nothing against your article. It's just that Sony has the worst PR in the entire industry. They'll often have 3 people working for them saying different things.

Those 1up hands-on reports seem fishy to me. Dualshock rumble was stereo also. That's what the word dual meant.

The dualshock motors were widely underutilized. Compare the rumble in Metal Gear Solid, such as when the helicopter is taking off, to all the games that use the rumble just to have the controller shake at maximum strength whenever there's an explosion on-screen.

However, it would be possible to get more subtle rumble with the same motors if you could vary the current going into them-though if one had this there would no reason to use asymmetric motors anymore, so you wouldn't use the same pair of motors.

But then you have the comments on talking to developers and they are saying it's different and they have new things to play with.

 

[womfalcs3]

If true...I'm actually kind of mad right now. I mean what the fuck Sony? What's the point of bringing the old rumble back when Immersion has new technology developed? Make the deal, work out your relationship, and get touchsense into the SIXAXIS.

I guess I won't be buying the new controller for a while. It was going to be a launch purchase.

 

[Jim]

Gonna have to wait to find out if this is true. Spring 2008, right?

~November 07 for Japan. I'm sure that thing will be dissected on day 1 after launch.

I'm sticking by the assumption of the DS3 being based on tweaked/enhanced DS2 tech with some new libraries and such to provide developers with a little more control over them.

p.s. uhh, I didn't close this.