You truly believe that WiiU is going to see a 320+% boost over last year? Why? What is happening this year that would lead to such a massive YoY boost? To say this is unlikely would be an understatement of epic proportions. I am incredibly curious to hear your reasoning.
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November 2015 NPD (U.S. Hardware) Predictions - Closes December 8th
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You truly believe that WiiU is going to see a 320+% boost over last year? Why? What is happening this year that would lead to such a massive YoY boost? To say this is unlikely would be an understatement of epic proportions. I am incredibly curious to hear your reasoning.
But dont' forget the potential preorders from previous months of the COD and SW bundles. That might be the difference.
Good point....
Okay, here is a revised list of expectations.
[3DS] 600k
[Wii U] 400-500k (Black Friday Sale's spike)
[XB1] 1100k
[PS4] 1200k
I guess the great Splatoon x Smash Bundle was going to really spike system sales....but your right, the system is likely only going to get a slight boost (500k). Will edit my post.
Plague Doctor
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I mean there has to be people wiser in historic sales trends than me, but those two bundles alone being tallied for this month has to be something like (being low ball and conservative here) +100k - +200k units, right?
DriftingSpirit
Member
500k is still more than double its sales last year... A single bundle with two games in limited quantities is incredibly unlikely to provide a boost that large if that's really your only reasoning.
That is true. Also, the BF bundle is sitting right outside of the top 20. This will be a close month, but I believe the PS4 will come out on top.
OfficerRaichu15
Member
I think since he was looking at all the gaf members talking about wii u actually selling for once.
Thats where he got it.
Itll depend on shipments though.
Thats where he got it.
Itll depend on shipments though.
Even if it's selling better than expected there's the matter of stock. It happens to be a pretty severe limitation for any success WiiU might see this holiday season. The stock levels for those bundles by all accounts are minuscule compared to the Uncharted and Gears bundles their competitors are offering. Not trying to be a downer but let's try to keep things in the realm of reasonable expectations.
Supposedly the products are listed in order of sales, so Xbox One is the 3rd best seller in electronics and PS4 the 5th.
OfficerRaichu15
Member
I know thats why I said it depends on shipments.
I agree full heatedly with your point though.
No. The PS4 is not.
Uhh... What?
If by past consoles you mean Wii or PS2 then yes. But I'd hardly say something is a failure or cause for worry if it isn't trending as well as the two fastest selling consoles ever. That's like saying somebody failed because they got an A instead of an A+.
Yes it was PS2. Which happens to be the best selling console of all time. But the US and Japan are the only markets where PS4 is tracking below PS2. WW it's actually tracking ahead and that's even with the PS2 numbers all being factory shipments and the PS4 figures being sold through to consumers. It's not exactly a 1:1 comparison given the release schedule and tracking metrics available for both consoles.
Yes I understood. No worries. I was using your post to further clarify on why it was unlikely we would see those sorts of numbers.
The Smash Bros + Splatoon bundle for $249 is a very, very good deal.
...Of course this doesn't mean Wii U will increase so much in sales, you can already see here what is my prediction.
exactly.
It's worth mentioning that their full report (available strictly to subscribers) states that they are projecting the PS4 to sell the most units during the holiday period (Nov 1 - Dec 31st).
Source - please look at the whole conversation for all details.
How much for subscription? Is it's NPD expensive?
Oh I have no doubt it will be up YoY for sure. You'll get no argument from me about that. However I don't think anything >50% increase YoY is feasible at all. Your prediction is certainly within the realm of possibility.
Good question. I have absolutely no idea. Haha
Silent Chief
Member
Don't you need 1 or 2 extra controllers to be able to play Smash Bros?
How is Splatoon if you have no internet?
For november + december I have no doubt that PS4 will sell more. On Black Friday we need more information but is not out of question that Xbox One sold a little more, or the inverse.
Maybe InfoScout will release data again. In 2014 some people doubted their data but the big lead pointed for Xbox One was consistent with NPD, plus it's a company with several important clients.
Dash_Riprock
Member
Whats gonna happen to this site if Halo 5 doesn't crack the top 10?
No.
About the same of COD.
90% digital sales confirmed.
Not much because will not be a big surprise at this point.
OfficerRaichu15
Member
My bad, sorry for the misconception.
Bitch Pudding
Member
Well, maybe we're about to find out sooner than many expected. Try to find Halo 5 in amazon.com's hourly charts right now... Just insane.
Dash_Riprock
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Dash_Riprock
Member
So basically, cries of "ASTERISK!" "ASTERISK!" by people in denial?
jhmtehgamr20xx
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Well you see according to stuff by experts like people Middle East, South Africa, Brazil, Eastern Europe, Indonesia...those markets don't mean shit you see.
If it isn't beasting in US, UK and Japan then it's in trouble yeah.
Hockeymac18
Member
Is there a story/meme behind the quotation marks around the word "interesting" in sales threads? I've been seeing it a lot, feel like there's some inside joke that I'm missing...
doesnt mean anything, its only best buy.
By itself, it won't cause much ruckus.
Xbox down YoY *and* Halo 5 doesn't crack the top 10? Hooo booy...
What I mean is, best buy always shows ps4 winning but its only a small portion of all sales.
OfficerRaichu15
Member
So we got
PS4- Best Buy
Wii U- Target.com
Xbox- Gamestop?
This is interesting
EDIT: disregard this
PS4- Best Buy
Wii U- Target.com
Xbox- Gamestop?
This is interesting
EDIT: disregard this
What?
Wow, That seems to be the first official data, on who won Black Friday, even if Best Buy only accounts for a small portion of sales, a PS4 November win seems more likely now as well
I'm sure X1 won at Target. I would be floored if Wii U sold the most at any retailer outside of Nintendo.com.
Before that, Amazon hourly charts showed clear win for PS4 [it is still #1].
Cow Goes Moo
Member
I don't think you can attribute an individual ps4 sku as being "ps4 sold more than xbox"
it's just that the uncharted bundle was the top selling sku for consoles
as for the whole target wii u thing, it was only for online purchases
it's just that the uncharted bundle was the top selling sku for consoles
as for the whole target wii u thing, it was only for online purchases
also the added possibility that anyone would buy online from target after the credit card hack is a possible consideration
Bitch Pudding
Member
As far as I know BB accounts for 10-15% of US retail sales. That's quite a good sample. That said, Walmart & Co. hat different offers (e.g. gift cards), so calling a BF winner seems to be premature.
What makes you so sure? Please don't tell me 9 of your friends bought their XBOX One there -.-.
What makes you so sure? Please don't tell me 9 of your friends bought their XBOX One there -.-.
The first official data of who won Black Friday is Wii U which won on Target online... i know this seem more like a joke, but tecnically that is.
Wii u "won" at target online because PS4 and XB1 deals were in store only.
Well that stat claims the PS4 grossed more money at Best Buy. Which I assume we can say it means it sold more. Seeing as both consoles were available for $299
Well; it would have been a suprise for me if PS4 would have lost at BB. It seems there is a bigger PS4 audience shopping there. Did the PS4 win there last year as well? Would be nice to know.
Abdiel's monthly posts are also more PS4-driven most of the time, even if both consoles are close at NPD or if XBox even wins the month.
On the other hand Target seems to be more XBox oriented.
The first official data of who won Black Friday is Wii U which won on Target online... i know this seem more like a joke, but tecnically that is.
I still find that hard to believe, would be great if the Wii U sees a big upward trend ofcourse.
Bitch Pudding
Member
What exactly is a "PS4 audience"???
Cow Goes Moo
Member
perhaps it is more likely that i can't read