bigtroyjon
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So if 600K were sold then that means the other skus combined to sell more units than the 4gb bare bones.
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NPD December 2011 Sales Results [Up5: Star Wars: The Old Republic Sales]
- Thread starter EviLore
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Petrae
Member
Correct. By over 1MM.
Thunder Monkey
Banned
That's okay I didn't understand my point either.
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
Still no 3DS numbers... :/
What's the recommended image hosting site currently? I have three graphs I'm not going to use in my columns that I wanted to drop in here.
Look back a few posts. That's about as official as it's going to get. Is it really that important to have the third digit correct, when we're talking about millions?
Thanks. I ended up looking at the FAQ forum and EviLore's post suggests imgur. Will check out minus next time, though.
I find this one to be pretty interesting. The handheld revenue went up dramatically (about 50% growth), and then fell back below the level it had back in 2005. By comparison the console market grew by over 90% but has seen far less erosion of that growth (still at 60% growth over 2005).
Same as in article today, but with percentages instead of raw units.
Nintendo basically grew its own market, but that growth is gone now. Sony appears to have lost share while Microsoft has grown it (with one system, basically).
Gamer @ Heart
Member
I can't believe a December thread, of all months!, would be the most disappointing / worst.
speculawyer
Member
Over 600K for the #14? So the Top 10 probably all did over a million? Is that right?
Combined SKUs or not? Only four SKUs made it over a million.
A Twisty Fluken
Member
Isn't that to be expected though, because the console revenue total reflects two overlapping cycles, the Wii rise and decline with the Xbox 360 later rise, and the handheld chart just represents the DS cycle? (realistically) It's probably better analyzed as a two hump camel where the humps are impossibly close together? Unless of course we don't expect the 360 to cycle down in the near future.
bigtroyjon
Member
Sure, but I think this is a good indication of how competition in the console market has helped keep it healthier while the handheld market (traditional market, not tablet/phone) has been dominated by a single player.
Thanks. I ended up looking at the FAQ forum and EviLore's post suggests imgur. Will check out minus next time, though.
I find this one to be pretty interesting. The handheld revenue went up dramatically (about 50% growth), and then fell back below the level it had back in 2005. By comparison the console market grew by over 90% but has seen far less erosion of that growth (still at 60% growth over 2005).
Same as in article today, but with percentages instead of raw units.
Nintendo basically grew its own market, but that growth is gone now. Sony appears to have lost share while Microsoft has grown it (with one system, basically).
Very interesting, most notably the first one.
A Twisty Fluken
Member
Yep.
Mario Kart 7 did over 1 million in December, same Nintendo announced it and the tease posted earlier pointed to selling more than what it did up to Dec. 25 in Japan.
AdventureRacing
Member
Thanks. I ended up looking at the FAQ forum and EviLore's post suggests imgur. Will check out minus next time, though.
I find this one to be pretty interesting. The handheld revenue went up dramatically (about 50% growth), and then fell back below the level it had back in 2005. By comparison the console market grew by over 90% but has seen far less erosion of that growth (still at 60% growth over 2005).
It puts the growth of this gen into perspective as well. Even with the slight downturn it still dwarfs what we saw last gen. I think some of the doom and gloom is unwarranted.
Kenshin001
Member
Maybe I'm getting my wires crossed here but if the 4GB led all hardware SKUs wouldn't that make it the most popular model ie. of all models available the cheapest was the biggest selling model?
Psychotext
Member
That sounds true in theory, but it could work out being irrelevant in practice. You could have a situation like this:
4gb: 250k sales
4gb + Kinect: 200k sales
250gb: 230k sales
250gb + Kinect: 240k sales
Whilst the standalone 4gb sold most, the average price would be much, much higher because of the others.
Edit - I just realised that's not what you were talking about. No matter.
bigtroyjon
Member
I was wrong about that(wasn't really thinking about all the consoles sold prior to BF) but my overall point about the ASP being well above $140 doesn't change since the 4gb comprised a minority of sales. (600K vs 1 million for everything else.)
There are some additional details in my column that went up today. Nothing earth shattering, I don't believe, but the units and revenue discussions may be of interest to people.
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/39708/The_2011_US_software_sales_breakdown.php
As always, if you find errors or have comments, let me know by posting here. Thanks.
Sample graph:
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/39708/The_2011_US_software_sales_breakdown.php
As always, if you find errors or have comments, let me know by posting here. Thanks.
Sample graph:
Cygnus X-1
Member
Thanks. I ended up looking at the FAQ forum and EviLore's post suggests imgur. Will check out minus next time, though.
I find this one to be pretty interesting. The handheld revenue went up dramatically (about 50% growth), and then fell back below the level it had back in 2005. By comparison the console market grew by over 90% but has seen far less erosion of that growth (still at 60% growth over 2005).
Same as in article today, but with percentages instead of raw units.
Nintendo basically grew its own market, but that growth is gone now. Sony appears to have lost share while Microsoft has grown it (with one system, basically).
Very interesting figures. Thanks for sharing.
bigtroyjon
Member
Kind of crazy that the 360 tie ratio jumped up again, it had stayed flat for a while and hardware is better than ever. Here's what it's been at the end of each quarter, going as far back as they have data for on MS investor relations site.
7.0(Dec 07)
7.5
7.8
8.1
8.1(Dec 08)
8.3
8.6
8.7
8.8(Dec 09)
8.8
8.9
8.9
8.9(Dec 10)
8.9
8.9
9.0
9.1(Dec 11)
7.0(Dec 07)
7.5
7.8
8.1
8.1(Dec 08)
8.3
8.6
8.7
8.8(Dec 09)
8.8
8.9
8.9
8.9(Dec 10)
8.9
8.9
9.0
9.1(Dec 11)
Ha.
Hoo-boy.Thanks. Replacement has been submitted, hopefully will change here soon.
Edit: FIXED.
With those tie ratios total Wii and Xbox 360 software sales are within a (very) few million of each other. Depending on the actual numbers, the 360 may already be on top (although as someone said Microsoft would probably boast about it). Anyway, it is probably happening very soon if it hasn't yet.
Thanks for the work as usual, jvm.
Thanks for the work as usual, jvm.
Yep. Wii software has been losing heavy ground to 360 in the U.S. since around mid-2010. ~December 2010/January 2011 software sales pushed Wii back up again, but otherwise, it's seemed to be all downhill for Wii since Summer 2010.
Kung Fu Grip
Banned
Sorry to bump this thread. But anybody have the US LTD's of the 3?
Version 3.0
Member
I have:
360: 30.93m
PS3: 19.04m
Wii: 37.67m
360: 30.93m
PS3: 19.04m
Wii: 37.67m
electroplankton
Banned
Since we're here...
Has 3DS December been released / leaked?
Has 3DS December been released / leaked?
Gamer @ Heart
Member
No, but logical deduction put it at around 1.5 million.
will PS3 ever reach Wii? when all is said and done?
uhm, no.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
I think PS3 reaching 30 million is actually in doubt with the PS4 coming in 2013.
specialguy
Banned
That's wrong. Wii should be 38.71 and 360 32.64. Dont have PS3 offhand.
Which points out the low December sales set back the 360's lifetime overtaking of the Wii. I was expected it to pick up as much as 1.5m in Dec, instead with the low sales it only gained 640k.
I'll be pretty interested in January npd now, see if the hardware sales apocalypse is truly upon us.
Version 3.0
Member
Oh, heck, those are without December's figures from this thread! Here's plus the figures from the OP:
360: 32.63m
PS3: 19.98m
Wii: 38.73m
Version 3.0
Member
Not in the US, nor worldwide, nor in any single region. Not a chance.
Psychotext
Member
I think there's one county in Europe where it's close, or maybe even past.
Especially when you consider that these software numbers are retail-only. With the growth in the digital download market, the distance between this and last gen is even more dramatic.
21 pages in 10 days. Oh, how NPD threads have fallen.
it's better in some respects because it means the people who actually want to discuss things aren't drowned in a sea of fanboyism.
6m eh? I think the 360 can still do it. Holiday sales didn't really decline for the HD consoles this year, it was just more frontloaded if you like, so the disappointing Dec sales are kind of misleading.
Pretty sure even with a price cut the Wii is going through the floor this year in the US. Price cut early last year did little and still came 3rd most months, a price cut without SW is a weak one. Even if they cut again this spring, with little to no decent SW coming (and that includes decent casual SW) I see it, at best, sustaining YoY. But likely still down.
360 really needs a price cut though, I think they should have had a temporary $50 cut throughout December to spur on sales, I for sure think if 50m in the US, overtaking the PS2 and the Wii is within MS's grasp, they'll go for it tooth and nail.
skyward sword ltd > uncharted 3 ltd
ro (rayman origins) > rayman 3d > rowii ~= ro360 > rops3
a little less than super mario 3d land has sold in japan
bigtroyjon
Member
So what got channel stuffed more, Uncharted 3 or the 360 hardware?