walking fiend
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it was selling at 60, it should have sold 4 times of this to have the same revenue at $15
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NPD November 2011 Sales Results [Update 7: Skyrim, CoD Wii, PC Retail Sales Up 57%]
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Haha, this pleases me if true. Capcom deserves this shit for trying to launch a fighting game remix in the same calender year.
Open world games are an under served market, but open world RPGs are much more so. I think Skyrim's success is a bit more clear in that context. Between Oblivion and Skyrim I'm only aware of Fallout 3 and New Vegas as viable options since Oblivion, as a non-PC gamer and 360 owner. I'm guessing there are a lot of players in the same boat. I think catering to that specific market and doing it so well, (not to mention accruing a large fanfare from the series) are why we're seeing Skyrim do what hit has done.
I'm glad for the success, because it ensures that particular market will continue to be served, however infrequently. The barrier to entry in the genre is very steep, so even after Skyrim I'm not expecting that many more.
Publisher cut at retail is something like 40%. Publisher cut for digital distribution is something like 70%. They would have had to sell 2-2.5 times as many copies on digital distribution.
bigtroyjon
Member
Incorrect, their revenue isn't based on the retail price. They earn whatever the retailers pay them and on the digital side of things the platform holder takes a cut before paying the publisher for the game.
Would be comparable to how well Super Street Fighter IV sold.
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
You really think it would've sold close to 200k (50k@$60 = 200k@$15) on Live? No way.
I don't think it'd pull even 100k on LIVE, although we don't know if it would have been more profitable going DD
plagiarize
Banned
would 'Sony games' still exist in your one console future? both from the perspective of 'would they be publishing games without a console to sell' and from the perspective of 'would they bankroll Ueda esque high budget creative risk prestige titles without a console to sell?'.
i'm guessing not. lets keep the current climate.
walking fiend
Member
I understand what you are trying to say, but where did you get those numbers from?
charlequin
Banned
Wait, what? The $199 two-game bundle was great, I had like three co-workers who were planning on grabbing one. 360 certainly had an advantage in density of offers (there were great deals for a $140 bare-bones 360 as well as great deals for kitchen-sink bundles) but as far as I could tell the biggest issue with the PS3 deals was that the $199 system was understocked.
Did SSFIV launch in November too? I don't recall.
Agreed. Picked up that PS3 bundle and sold the 2 games on Ebay. That was a great price for what you're getting.
walking fiend
Member
Dude, it constitutes 1% of the total sale, how does this blow your mind? Maybe my sarcasm detector is broken...
Psychotext
Member
What about retail / distribution etc?
dead souls
Member
Yeah, the PS3 deal was great. I finally bought one, along with some PS3 games I've really been wanting to play (Valkyria, Yakuza 3/4), so now I have all three current gen consoles.
November doesn't boost all games. We still get plenty of flops in November.
Point is, I think the audience for these Ultimate/Super versions is largely limited to fighting game fans, and that Ultimate MvC3 did about the same numbers as Super SF4. Makes sense considering the vanilla editions had similar starts.
$40 is better than $60, but casual gamers can pick up vanilla MvC3 for $20 at this point.
There have been plenty of leaks by developers outlining how much of a revenue share they get from digital distribution. 70% seems to be the common number if the game was self published. At least that has been the number I have seen associated with Steam and XBLA.
It is hard to find good info about publisher revenue share from retail products. An old IGN article estimated $16 revenue from (presumably) $50 after wholesale cut, platform licensing fees, manufacturing, shipping, advertising and return contingencies were taken out. I rounded up, since digital distribution can still have some advertising costs.
http://games.ign.com/articles/708/708972p1.html
There have also been pie charts posted with similar breakdowns in other articles.
I bought one, great deal.
(ES) trailer: http://www.gamereactor.es/noticias/4251/Mira+a+Mario+bailar+en+Just+Dance/
+1 million?
carbonbased
Member
adorable
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
Ubi might actually take a loss if stores can return unsold stock for a refund. Then you have to account for the publisher cut, which isn't the full $60. It's less than half of that.
Eh, I bought Modern Warfare and Blops both on PC and Wii (all at $40 or less). There is no debate in that the PC version is superior in every single way, but don't underestimate how much better the IR pointer is over dual-analog. Makes that game a lot more fun.
Speaking of CoD, I'm glad PC gamers didn't reward the bullshit that is MW3. I got burned by MW2 PC (MW, WaW and Blops were done right), so I'm glad I did my research this time.
Rush2thestart
Member
Decent sales for CODWii, will no doubt pick like every other iteration has.
Still waiting on Kirby.
Still waiting on Kirby.
FreeMufasa
Junior Member
Have the total hardware sales of this gen surpassed last yet?
I want to say IV did like 3.6 million day one, but I could be wrong.
Edit: Wait...you mean just NPD numbers. Since this is an NPD thread. Ignore me :lol
Yes.
Portable consoles by the end of 2008.
Overall by the end of 2009.
Home consoles by the end of 2010.
AdventureRacing
Member
Which is insane considering how much HW is still being sold. The indsutry really has grown quite a bit this gen.
bigtroyjon
Member
I don't know if it ever gets talked about but the rentrak weekly top 10 this week is making it look like Nintendo is going to have a really good December. Be interesting to see how it changes in the last couple weeks leading up to Christmas
*Publicly traded tracking firm, chart is legit.
Edit-Going to put the list in this post, doesn't look like they save them on the site.
1 3DS Mario Kart 7
2 WII Just Dance 3
3 X360 Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3
4 3DS Super Mario 3D Land
5 PS3 Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3
6 WII The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword
7 X360 The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
8 X360 Battlefield 3
9 X360 Madden NFL 12
10 3DS The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D
*Publicly traded tracking firm, chart is legit.
Edit-Going to put the list in this post, doesn't look like they save them on the site.
1 3DS Mario Kart 7
2 WII Just Dance 3
3 X360 Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3
4 3DS Super Mario 3D Land
5 PS3 Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3
6 WII The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword
7 X360 The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim
8 X360 Battlefield 3
9 X360 Madden NFL 12
10 3DS The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D
Psychotext
Member
Nintendo has done very well at Christmas for the last few years. Very family / gift friendly.
Flying_Phoenix
Banned
To be fair most of that is due to Nintendo grabbing the casual market. And when looking globally the industry has declined in many parts of Europe and Japan. Its mostly the United States that has had tremendous growth.
Hehehe.
(ES) trailer: http://www.gamereactor.es/noticias/4251/Mira+a+Mario+bailar+en+Just+Dance/
+1 million?
Tried the song yesterday at a friend's.
(was 250 points or $2.50)
Really well done actually and the visuals look nice. It gets really intense with the time's running-out music. The moves were really weird, since some are just humping..which my friend gave the Pedobear seal of approval.
Should be an interesting comparison with NPD. Even without numbers it signifies trends.
Hard to compare though due to NPD grouping platforms.
akilshohen
Member
yeah I had to go across town to find sonic, and the person working at best buy said Sonic, MK7 and MK3DL were selling a lot
AdventureRacing
Member
The overall market growth has really been driven by the handheld market. On the console side i think the growth is being driven by the strong sales of all 3 consoles. Last gen 2nd and 3rd place sold less than 50 million combined. This gen the PS3 and 360 have both outsold the xbox and GC combined and are their sales are increasing even this late in the life span.
Are you only talking about home consoles here? Because if you include handhelds i don't think this is even remotely close to being true.
Death Dealer
Member
I'm waiting for the 3DS version.
50k sounds low. Maybe they should have waited until Feb-Mar ?
bigtroyjon
Member
Rentrak top 10 for Dec 11-17
Things will change with the combined SKU chart but it's looking like we might actually see 3 3DS games in the top 10 for Dec NPD if the last 2 weeks are any indication. Top 10 is the same as last week with some of the places switched around.
Things will change with the combined SKU chart but it's looking like we might actually see 3 3DS games in the top 10 for Dec NPD if the last 2 weeks are any indication. Top 10 is the same as last week with some of the places switched around.
Just like Pop 2008 and BGaE Ubi basically sent it to die.
BengaBenga
Member
I'm pretty sure 360+PS3+Wii > PS2+GC+XBOX in Europe (and the consoles have another year or more to go). Both GC and XBOX sold way under 10 million here. I don't have the exact shipments numbers ready, but PS3 and 360 should both be over 20 million each in Europe. Even though Wii sold much less than PS2, the total amount of consoles has increased.
Sorry for the off topic.
Game would have been sent to die regardless of when it was released.