Based on Mass Effect 3 performance, do you have any comment?
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NPD Sales Results For April 2017 [Up: Sony and Microsoft now sharing digital numbers]
Based on Mass Effect 3 performance, do you have any comment?
Okay but Nintendo has mobile game as well now that are reaching more people than they ever have in the past.
gundamkyoukai
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Sure but i only talking from a hardware stand point .
I am sure Nintendo going to make a killing on mobile and even more so in the future with it.
The question is how much hardware are they going to sell compare to before.
Nintendo will always make money one way are the other there IPs are big and will sell no matter the platform .
I think it's immaterial in the end. Nintendo is going from DS&Wii->3DS&WiiU->Switch&Mobile and I don't see how it makes any real difference.
Sony and Microsoft are also likely to sell less hardware this gen than last by the way.
AquaWateria
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Nintendo are also venturing into other types of entertainment like the amusement park at Universal. I wouldn't be surprised if they start to use their own ips and venture into animation.
Although Hardware is their main source of revenue it still isn't their only one.
I played most of them and I agree, story is so bland it's practically non existant
AdventureRacing
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The switch had the potential to sell as much as the 3DS and wii U combined so hopefully they won't be losing much in the HW front this gen. SW sales wise the wii U and 3DS both performed poorly so I'm confident the switch can out perform them.
They won't match the DS/wii combo ever again but no one in the dedicated market will. That generation in general will never be matched. The DS/PSP/PS3/360/wii moved something like 500+ million pieces of HW. This generation won't even come within sniffing distance of that.
I think if Nintendo can keep there HW selling 50-100 million and supplementing that with mobile and other sources (like merchandise, theme park attractions, movies etc) then they'll be more than fine.
Maybe not quite at their DS/wii level but that's a massively high bar.
gundamkyoukai
Member
Selling less hardware can mean less money but of course that also depend on other factors.
But having your own hardware you not giving up 30% , licensing fees for disc and DD sales, subscription service ( i expect companies to branch out even more from there own hardware ) etc etc .
Also i think Sony is only company that going to sell more hardware this gen even if you add Vita to PS3 numbers.
It going to be interesting to see where Nintendo goes from a hardware stand point depending on switch sales .
SinCityAssassin
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To be clear though, a bland story (opinion or otherwise) does not count it out as a JRPG.
The Horror the horror
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Yeah, we came to that determination after Kingdom Hearts.
gundamkyoukai
Member
Your right .
Vita seem like it came out so long ago since you hardly hear anything about it lol.
But yeah PS4 and Vita not going to sell as much as PS3 and PSP.
hodayathink
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Found it. It was actually the entirety of 2014, which makes it worse.
December 2014 NPD thread
Basically, Nintendo in their press release announced that 16 3DS titles had sold more than 250K units for the year, and then also said that they had the top 15 titles of the year were all on the 3DS. So we figured that meant a Vita game had sold over 250K and and made the list at #16. Turned out it was the Frozen DS game instead.
3rdamention
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Did anyone ever reveal PS4 and Xbox One numbers for April?
hanspampel
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~320k is the best estimate yet
Wow, big month for PlayStation with all those exclusives placing in the top 20. 4 of 5 are single-player games too.
Nier isn't an exclusive?
The Artisan
Member
it's a console exclusive
MatPiscatella
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Well, I mean that's what earnings reports are for. And those are freely available.
Could also read Dan Ahmad's Nintendo primer to get started, and then go straight to Nintendo's own income statements.
Hmmm... seasonal variability is a thing that impacts all moths. Getting on the top 20 for November usually takes more than January kind of thing. So, not sure it's the best way to compare? I get what you're asking though. And March and April are far more similar than Jan and Nov, but it's not quite an apples to apples comparison. I get that you're trying to figure out just how well it's doing. It's performing above my own personal expectations, but that's still qualitative and doesn't help.
Which chart do you mean?
No. But in the 5th calendar year of existence they shouldn't be. Both big boxes were down in 2016 versus prior year, showing very normal mid-cycle dynamics. Nothing's changed that would reverse that so far this year. Maybe Scorpio and a 2nd holiday of Pro will help? I don't know for certain.
I don't see any reason to believe we'll have an extended cycle like we saw with what Guitar Hero/Rock Band and motion control helped the PS3/360 gen to achieve. I forecast PS5 and some new Xbox offering in 2020, although 2019 wouldn't be a huge surprise.
No, it's on PC. Oh, wait you're trying to say its only on PS4 and not Xbox?
Welfare
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This one from March, but for this month, so May 2016 - April 2017.
Trailing 12 Months (April 2016 - March 2017):
Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare (Activision Blizzard)
Battlefield 1 (Electronic Arts)
NBA 2K17 (Take-Two)
Madden NFL 17 (Electronic Arts)
Grand Theft Auto V (Take-Two)
Overwatch (Activision Blizzard)
FIFA 17 (Electronic Arts)
Final Fantasy XV (Square Enix)
Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Wildlands (Ubisoft)
Dark Souls 3 (Bandai Namco)
MatPiscatella
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12 Months ending April 2017
Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare Activision Blizzard
Battlefield 1 Electronic Arts
NBA 2K17 Take 2 Interactive
Madden NFL 17 Electronic Arts
Overwatch^ Activision Blizzard
Grand Theft Auto V Take 2 Interactive
FIFA 17 Electronic Arts
Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Wildlands Ubisoft
Final Fantasy XV Square Enix Inc
For Honor Ubisoft
Remember Blizzard Launcher/Battle.net sales for Overwatch are not included.
Indeed it does.
The Artisan
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The term console exclusive doesn't really do a good job sounding like what it is but it's taken to mean that it is exclusive to only one specific console or console platform, while also appearing on PC
Welfare
Member
Thanks!
PS4 January - April 2016: 1,140,000
Xbox One January - April 2016: 789,000
Yeah, that looks right given what we know of high February and March sales for PS4, it is basically impossible for it to be down YoY YTD this month, and XB1 didn't sell enough this month to be up YoY YTD
I'd guess XB1 is ~5% down and PS4 up 5%.
MatPiscatella
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It's always been a terrible term. Wish the industry could come up with a better way to reference this type of thing. Or make it go away lol.
VanCityGamer
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Do you really see Sony riding PS4 Pro until 2020? I don't think they'll let Xbox Scorpio be the significant power leader for that long. PS5 in 2019, PS5 Pro in 2022 IMO.
Jaded Alyx
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No such term is needed imo. If it's on PC as well, it's not exclusive. End of.
The Artisan
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the term itself is pretty terrible but its meaning is relevant. for people who like to play games solely on consoles, the PC platform is just part of a complementary market, so it doesn't affect their platforms of choice in terms of exclusivity
not true. if i have either a Ps4 or an Xbone, and I learn that a game is available on only one of the consoles but also on PC, it might as well be exclusive to that one console for me since I'm not part of the PC gaming community
hanspampel
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edit: nvm you talking about YTD
gundamkyoukai
Member
Still it easy to understand and make sense marketing wise .
Sony doesn't give a fuck about the power leader because it doesn't matter. They already won this generation and the Xbox brand is only competition in a few markets. They'll release the PS5 when the tech is ready at the right price.
The Artisan
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that depends. Sony had no problem letting the OG Xbox be the significant power leader during the 6th gen, as Ps2 just had so much 3rd party software support. If the Ps4 platform continues to get the same support Sony gets, Scorpio being the powerhouse may not be enough to put a dent in Ps4 sales
lowhighkang_LHK
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MLB debuted in March and charted in March, which makes it's April numbers even more impressive.
Console makers don't see it that way or they wouldn't put such effort into games that appear on their platform and the PC, but not on rival console hardware.
Jaded Alyx
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I don't know, I guess I just find it hard to really grasp that as someone who is a PC and console gamer. I get that there are people who don't game on PCs, but there are people (console gamers) who will never game on Playstation, or on XBOX, or on Nintendo. And yeh I get that consoles are consoles and a PC is a PC, so that's not really the same thing, but the distinction just doesn't really exist in my head. They are all platforms on which to play the same/similar games. Just the way I see it, but I accept I am largely in the minority here.
It's the same every year. It'll debut 8-10 in March then 4-5 in April
The Artisan
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well, I understand what you're saying. And that's fair for someone who plays on PC and on consoles.
But you have to admit that playing on a console no matter the console, and being part of the PC community are pretty different investments. Consoles arguably are still plug in play, but you need to have way more knowledge going PC.
Sangetsu-II
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Agree 100%
DriftingSpirit
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KuwabaraTheMan
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Why does it matter to you, though? Why do we need a term for it?
If something is on PS4/PC, it's on PS4/PC. Whether it's a "console exclusive" or not is meaningless. Just as if you don't have an Xbox, whether an Xbox version exists or not is meaningless to you. With no PC, Nier Automota can only be played on the PS4, but if you don't own an Xbox, then there are plenty of games that are only playable on the PS4, too. All that really matters is where the games are available.
The "console exclusive" term is just something that major corporations made up to make things sound more impressive to their system, and then used primarily by corporate cheerleaders who draw in a weird amount of pleasure from seeing one multi-billion dollar corporation do better than another one.
hanspampel
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so when i have either a Xb1 or PC, Read Dead Redemption 2 is an Xbox exclusive, because i'm not part of the Playstation gaming community?
Earthbound64
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"Sony family of videogame systems" likes this.
The Artisan
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yep. just my opinion though. this could easily go the other way.
it's just about awareness really. if you own a certain console and want to be aware of the exclusives, in my opinion it's important to be aware of the console exclusives too - for reasons I already stated, but I understand what you're saying though. Your mindset is one that doesn't differentiate PC vs. consoles, you gauge all platforms equally. I equate playstation with xbox but PC is a whole nother beast of a platform in my opinion.
if redemption 2 wasn't announced on Ps4 then yes, it'd be a console exclusive on Xbone. Although in reality it is not, so I'm not sure what you're saying?
Hero of Legend
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Did we ever get Yooka-Laylee numbers?
thestopsign
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I just want to point out that Xenoblade Chronicles X did over 200k in its first month alone in the US, which is a really good result. It has probably at least doubled that amount since considering how games typically sell in the US.
PanicFreak
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Yup.