Westbahnhof
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I've never seen the appeal in making sweeping statements like this.
I get it when it's about something like the systemic opression by police, but this feels different.
It's like you're baiting people to say "not all white women".
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Nurse at Naval Hospital Taking Racist Photos with Newborns
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I've never seen the appeal in making sweeping statements like this.
I get it when it's about something like the systemic opression by police, but this feels different.
It's like you're baiting people to say "not all white women".
TBiddy
Member
I think it's odd how it's now an established fact, that this was done out of racism, despite there being no proof (whatsoever) that the child was black or the family was black. This looks to be a case of two insane people physically abusing newborn babies.
Why do you assume it's because of the childs race? Is it the music?
It's because you aren't a racist.
Why do you assume it's because of the childs race? Is it the music?
It's because you aren't a racist.
Yaphett Kotto
Member
I hope it's brutal as fuck and they are competing with high schoolers for fucking shift work at McDonald's for their post prison life.
Royce McCutcheon
Junior Member
What proof do you want? Was he supposed to come out blacker than the ace of spades? Can you make a case for why this isn't racist other than "Where's the prooof"
You're a racist piece of shit.
As well as handling a newborn incorrectly... "Making a newborn dance to rap"?
Newborn necks are particularly sensitive, the size and weight of their head increasing the potential for serious harm if handled without supporting it.
Not only is it probably a hate crime, and that should be investigated ("Satans", rap dance...), but she could also be sued for endangerment on top of HIPAA violations.
Just unbelievable...
TBiddy
Member
Unless there are a hidden set of photos I haven't seen, the babies I've seen are about the same color as my daughter had. How can you jump to the conclusion, that it's a black child?
DrROBschiz
Member
Oh man
The amount of violations committed here make for a long list
Its terrible
You dont even need the racist angle to justify shit canning this lady
Extremely unprofessional and borderline dangerous
Royce McCutcheon
Junior Member
Easy, America hates black people and their children. So there no doubt that a evil women would do this to a black child, we've lived it, seen it. This ain't the new
TBiddy
Member
I absolutely agree. Not supporting the head of a newborn is dangerous and can lead to lasting injuries for the child. It's mindboggling how people like this were left alone with someone elses babies.
So your reasoning is that "America is racist, therefore this must be an act of racism"? I'm sorry, but that seems farfetched.
Norwegian Rudo
Member
Even if the child happens to be black that isn't proof it was done out of racism.
DrROBschiz
Member
The viral post shared a photo from a Snapchat account that showed the employee giving the middle finger to a newborn, followed by a caption that read How I currently feel about these mini Satans. The post also read the navy nurse and her friend made a baby dance to rap music.
This is one of the lines from the OP but im not entirely sure of the context
Was it just a comment on the posted video or does it involve the employees attitude towards the children at the facility?
Either way this is where I thought the racist angle came in
DrROBschiz
Member
Glass Shark
Banned
I'm really glad racists as a whole haven't figured out not to post their hateful shit on social media. Makes it really easy to spot the fuckheads.
This, I think, is the worst post in this thread. Who cares how you play with your own 10 month old infant? This nurse is at best unprofessional and at worst causing harm to these new born infants. Her actions are completely lacking in both professionalism and the basic human decency we expect from all people and much more from nurses working with OTHER PEOPLE'S NEWBORN INFANTS.
Two important points: These aren't her children and they're not 10 months old. Your post is nothing but a whataboutism and I don't understand that reaction from a parent about a nurse betraying the trust of parents with her handling of their newborn infants.
Norwegian Rudo
Member
The rap music you mean? What if that just happened to be what was on the radio?
Royce McCutcheon
Junior Member
50....on the radio....in the paternity ward.
DrROBschiz
Member
Yup this post right here
As a parent myself I would be absolutely outraged if a Nurse pulled this shit
Straight Edge
Member
Can they be court marshalled?
I am going to rely on everyone's comments here because anything to do with kids and esp babies makes my blood boil.
I have a 3 year old and 6 month old. I never the level of love, affection, and fear I could fear until I had kids. To know someone would do this to newborn babies as some joke is so infuriating. If I was a parent in this case I don't know what I would do.
Same reason as much as my heart breaks I can't bring myself to take a look at the pictures of the genocide taking place against the Muslim population in Myanmar.
I have a 3 year old and 6 month old. I never the level of love, affection, and fear I could fear until I had kids. To know someone would do this to newborn babies as some joke is so infuriating. If I was a parent in this case I don't know what I would do.
Same reason as much as my heart breaks I can't bring myself to take a look at the pictures of the genocide taking place against the Muslim population in Myanmar.
Chuckie
Member
Yeah this. I think it would drive a normal person mad if they knew how much fucked up child abuse happens every day.
Makes me sick thinking about it. I hope those two cunts get court-martialled
Exactly. I'm a little baffled as to why people are getting hung up on the "is it racist?" angle. This was wildly inappropriate regardless of the race of the babies and it should result in immediate termination.
Chuckie
Member
I think it is because of the title. It contains "Nurse taking racist photos".
Some people do not see the racism and react on the title (instead of the child abuse..which strangely isn't in the title)
You said you wanted racism to be involved here.
I'll repeat: you want racism to be involved. When asked if you preferred racism wasn't involved, you say that doesn't matter.
That is completely bizarre to me and should be to anyone actually concerned about racism and bigotry. I don't ever want racism to be a part of anyone's decision process. If a crime is committed, I 100% prefer it to not involve racism and if you can't say the same about yourself I would question your motivations and understanding. Suggesting it doesn't matter doesn't even make sense given the rest of your argument. It's self defeating.
Well it's pretty clear why this particular case is made to be about race now. It sells better, gets more people riled up and some people can use it as a leverage. It's not about if the people taking the pictures are racist or not. They are horrible people in any case. The argument is about making and reporting it as racist issue first.
TBiddy
Member
Exactly. For some reason it was more important to highlight the (imaginary?) racism than the actual fucking child abuse taking place.
Interfectum
Member
This helps nothing. Stop.
Norwegian Rudo
Member
Or their playlist, whatever. I guess I'm just not used to how silly America is. Here we have Cop Killer and worse on public radio.
It's like if OP made a post that was titled "Man kills man in racist fit of rage." And then posts a news story that has no mention of race at all and in the only pictures in the story both the victim and the murderer appear to be white. No one will come in there and say, killing people is fine! But some people might be a bit confused as to where OP got the whole race angle. Does OP have more information than we do?
But then if anyone questions it, they get the answer "Someone was murdered... does it really matter if it was racist or not?" When OP was the one that asserted the racism in the first place!
Royce McCutcheon
Junior Member
So with all due respect, should we just respect the topic title until it's proven Otherwise? Or if it's that fucking painful to call this evil woman a racist, change the topic title.
Abstrusity
Member
I'm not sure which South American country you're from for a more tailored response, but I suppose it really doesn't need it.
Bad people exist and haven't gotten the shit beat out of them because it's not outwardly obvious most of the time that they are bad people.
Now, to be fair, humanity was a mistake, it's all trash. However, this is the rancid trash that needed to get composted years ago, but due to crippling mental issues, we've let the pile grow, and congeal, and get worse, and worse, and worse. So now we have so much trash that we can't tell what's actually stinking up the place until one of the bags bursts, spilling its vile contents all over the place.
The only way to fix it will be to burn the house down. The stench will never go away otherwise.
The original article title is simply "Jacksonville Naval Hospital removes employees from patient care after disturbing photos with newborns go viral"
Still clickbaity but that should have been enough for the post title without any of the extra made up stuff that people should now somehow disprove.
Byakuya769
Member
Same song, different day.
Snowman Prophet of Doom
Member
Is anybody actually defending the reprehensible actions in the video? It's awful, there is not much to say other than that.
The OP framed the incident as racist with no real evidence that babies of color were preferentially targeted for this kind of treatment, and people are wondering what heuristics were used to generate that assertion - a question not adequately answered at any point in this thread, really, just asserted as "obvious" and used as a hammer to imply that one is not a good anti-racist or subscribes to the quantum racism paradigm if one does not accept that aspect of the framing.
The OP framed the incident as racist with no real evidence that babies of color were preferentially targeted for this kind of treatment, and people are wondering what heuristics were used to generate that assertion - a question not adequately answered at any point in this thread, really, just asserted as "obvious" and used as a hammer to imply that one is not a good anti-racist or subscribes to the quantum racism paradigm if one does not accept that aspect of the framing.
Big Baybee
Member
People have no idea how a lot of black babies look when they are born. My child could pass for white or East Asian at birth. Color came within a month or so.
Gordon Shumway
Banned
hey_monkey
Banned
A white person exhibiting dehumanizing behavior toward a brown baby is in and of itself racist.
Westbahnhof
Banned
Gordon Shumway
Banned
Reads a lot better, yes..
tkscz
Member
What she's doing is so fucking horrible. And I've seen people defending her saying "well I've seen parents have their babies dance." Yes, the babies parents. If they want to be shitty parents and do this to their newborns without supporting the kid's heads, they are free to as the parents. This woman is a nurse and is admitting to hating babies. She didn't give birth to the baby and can do serious harm to a baby that isn't hers. So yes, some parents will play with their new borns like this, but it's their kid.
As for the racism issue, there isn't enough evidence that she is only doing this to minority babies. And can you look at any of her selfies and not tell she's one of those suburban white women who stay listening to mid 2000's rap while twerking horrible? It's seems like a stretch to me to assume she isn't doing this do other babies, she just got caught doing it to this one. I hope they check all other newborns that she's been around.
As for the racism issue, there isn't enough evidence that she is only doing this to minority babies. And can you look at any of her selfies and not tell she's one of those suburban white women who stay listening to mid 2000's rap while twerking horrible? It's seems like a stretch to me to assume she isn't doing this do other babies, she just got caught doing it to this one. I hope they check all other newborns that she's been around.
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/...after-photos-with-newborns-go-viral/477079315
Millennials are killing the babies.
Millennials are killing the babies.