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[dr_rus]

You're not even sure the SP's aren't hotclocked. Last rumor I checked, the SP's were hotclocked.

I'm sure =) They're not.

And eventually a card with massive processing power becomes bandwidth starved. Even Fermi was bandwidth starved somewhat, and I think GK104 will be even worse. Luckily they're using RAM that can hit ridiculous clocks, but I can see GK110 performing much better with a 384-bit or 512-bit bus. d2

This has been the case, well, always. New GPUs always have much bigger increases in flops than in Gbps.
GK110 will have a 512-bit bus probably.

I still think this turbo boost thing is kinda weird for a GPU, and might make overclocking a bit more annoying if it isn't implemented well...

It is weird and it does make overclocking a bit more annoying. But it can't be turned off so that's something we all will have to live with now.

I really think a decent Kepler will OC even higher than a 7970/7950. Their stock voltage appears to be very low and I think they should grab a solid 300-400 Mhz on the core. And I hope the RAM chips hit 7-8 Ghz with ease.

Doesn't seem like this at the moment. Clocks headroom seems to be pretty even between Tahiti and GK104.

 

[artist]

GK110 will have a 512-bit bus probably.

Probably? I can confirm this right now.

 

[dr_rus]

Probably? I can confirm this right now.

Nothing is for certain until it gets released. I can't guarantee that todays GK110 will be the same GK110 that might one day be released as a GeForce -) Also there is no guarantee that even if it's 512 bit it won't be cut down to 448 bit for GeForces to improve yields. Many many factors.

 

[iamvin22]

posted already?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxXk-iXLjiY&feature=youtu.be

 

[Sethos]

posted already?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxXk-iXLjiY&feature=youtu.be

Love that. "Oh look at this fur coat, looks super realistic now" and it looks about as realistic as Tron.

 

[Izayoi]

When does the NDA drop?

 

[Zombie James]

Yeah, that fur was technically impressive but in no way realistic. I want to know more about TXAA.

 

[artist]

Nothing is for certain until it gets released. I can't guarantee that todays GK110 will be the same GK110 that might one day be released as a GeForce -) Also there is no guarantee that even if it's 512 bit it won't be cut down to 448 bit for GeForces to improve yields. Many many factors.

Too much wiggle room.

 

[specialguy]

When does the NDA drop?

6AM PST the 22nd or something like that.

 

[Izayoi]

6AM PST the 22nd or something like that.

Ugh. Maybe I'll take a nap.

 

[-SD-]

Edit: I see artist posted this in the UE4 thread. I found the pic from somewhere else.

 

[artist]

Few more tidbits, not posted any where ..

NVENC, 4K Display support.

TXAA is a mix of hardware and software based AA. Borderlands 2 and Unreal Engine 4.0 will be the first among a slew of titles to adopt it.

 

[Perkel]

Edit: I see artist posted this in the UE4 thread. I found the pic from somewhere else.

That looks to me like poor use of SLI.. not superupgrade..

 

[Kaako]

Few more tidbits, not posted any where ..

NVENC, 4K Display support.

TXAA is a mix of hardware and software based AA. Borderlands 2 and Unreal Engine 4.0 will be the first among a slew of titles to adopt it.

Cool. Keep updating with any info you got artist, thanks.
Looking forward to TXAA, hopefully it's the real deal.

 

[Shadowhaxor]

Kinda of kicking myself for picking up a 7950 just the other day... but I couldn't resist since I sold my 6950 for $275.

Guess I'll hit up newegg and check out the return policy.

 

[Jtrizzy]

Why are we even discussing 4k at this point? Can you even purchase them? If so how much? Even then, what'll you need 3 of the highest end kepler cards to play a game?

Also, what is EVFC?

 

[artist]

$499.99 MSRP

*runs away*

 

[IblisGinjo]

$499.99 MSRP

*runs away*

At that price, I'll bite. I'm building from scratch anyway so it really doesn't matter, wonder what the free game will be if any?

 

[Lulubop]

Some are up on Newegg already.

 

[Kaako]

$499.99 MSRP

*runs away*

Yea, no way I'm touching it at $500 as well. Waiting for $300-400 range; might be a while...

 

[artist]

Some are up on Newegg already.

Nice catch. Quantities should be better than 7970, or so was promised.

 

[mercenar1e]

im reading that the card will be priced at $550, not official yet

 

[Lulubop]

And now they're delisted. I'll probably pick one up.

 

[elty]

So... when are they going to release the $200 variant?

 

[mercenar1e]

And now they're delisted. I'll probably pick one up.

have you seen the price?

 

[Lulubop]

have you seen the price?

ranging from around $504 to $534.

Edit: Asus model was 499.

 

[Hero_of_the_Day]

They must have been up for like two seconds. I looked like an hour ago and there were only two, and they didn't have prices.

 

[Izayoi]

Edit: Asus model was 499.

Was it a DirectCUII?

 

[BoobPhysics101]

$499? Awesome. If I'm lucky, I may be able to get one directly for $450-470 with no tax. Bring it on!

 

[mercenar1e]

$499? Awesome. If I'm lucky, I may be able to get one directly for $450-470 with no tax. Bring it on!

and if im lucky ill get it for 100

 

[BoobPhysics101]

and if im lucky ill get it for 100

Yes, but that kind of lucky takes around 3 years.

 

[mercenar1e]

Yes, but that kind of lucky takes around 3 years.

and im selling my gfx card =P

 

[scogoth]

posted already?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxXk-iXLjiY&feature=youtu.be

Power efficiency? Fuck that shit, bring the heat man.

 

[·feist·]

And now they're delisted. I'll probably pick one up.

have you seen the price?

 

[Geezer]

I really wish Nvidia had won a contract for one of the next gen consoles now, obviously not sticking a GTX 680 in there, but a lower end Kepler GPU. Like everyone else I assumed AMD would continue to lead on performance per watt.
Good job by the green team, I've always been with ATI/AMD but when I next build a PC it's looking like I'll be going with Nvidia unless AMD get aggressive with pricing.

I'm looking forward to reading technical explanations of the architecture

 

[mercenar1e]

which one of those gfx cards are you guys getting?

 

[Globox_82]

Considering the price of these cards. I can only imagine how expensive next gen consoles are going to be.
On top of that 8gb or 6gb of ram and advanced CPU. 599 minimum...

 

[herzogzwei1989]

My next PC is going to be built around the TRUE high-end Kepler GPU that hasn't been fully (if at all) revealed yet.

 

[Globox_82]

when 360 got released where was it's GPU standing in therms of PC standards. Was it high end, mid?
Same with RSX but that was a year later...

 

[Fixed1979]

For Canadians anyway...not sure about US. No need to hit F5 all night long.

No midnight launches this time around guys!

Tomorrow morning. 9:01AM. A new architecture from NVIDIA.

Stay tuned!!!

LINK

Assuming EST.

 

[Lulubop]

Any other manufactures offer any program like Evga's step up? Though I doubt gk110 will be released within the allotted time now anyway.

 

[piratepwnsninja]

Newegg trolling. Just got this in an email:

http://www.newegg.com/GTX680/?nm_mc...-NV-_-GeForceGTX680-_-content-_-GeForceGTX680

and of course the Buy Now! leads to NOTHING.

 

[BoobPhysics101]

and im selling my gfx card =P

You're still paying $500.

 

[mercenar1e]

You're still paying $500.

I received the $300.00 in gift cards for free..

 

[specialguy]

Considering the price of these cards. I can only imagine how expensive next gen consoles are going to be.
On top of that 8gb or 6gb of ram and advanced CPU. 599 minimum...

Umm...

You assume they will go high end GPU again. The prevailing opinion seems to be they will not. High end GPU's today have much higher power requirements than in 2005. So many think this precludes them in consoles (I'm personally a bit on the fence).

Second important thing is high end GPU's dont actually cost $500. They cost a lot less the rest is profit. And of course the lower price we go the less of the price is profit.

The actual die in a 680 or Tahiti probably costs about only $100. (this doesnt count the RAM and everything else).

A Pitcairn GPU (7870 and 50 which imo are very powerful), has a die size of just 212mm. For comparison RSX in PS3 started at 240mm. Some rumors have GK104 Kepler as low as 294mm (power/heat could be another matter, but personally I think can be dealt with). Conclusion is that regardless of price, at the very least a Pitcairn could go in next gen.

Of course, the question of is it possible and the question of will they actually do it are separate.

 

[SoulClap]

It's going to be a torturous wait for the non reference cards.

 

[artist]

A Pitcairn GPU (7870 and 50 which imo are very powerful), has a die size of just 212mm. For comparison RSX in PS3 started at 240mm. Some rumors have GK104 Kepler as low as 294mm (power/heat could be another matter, but personally I think can be dealt with). Conclusion is that regardless of price, at the very least a Pitcairn could go in next gen.

Yeah, I tried to sell this idea to GAF and half of GAF laughed at it.

 

[iceatcs]

Considering the price of these cards. I can only imagine how expensive next gen consoles are going to be.
On top of that 8gb or 6gb of ram and advanced CPU. 599 minimum...

That was RRP price, console manufacturers will get wholesale price if they want to use it.

But yes high range/standard and new techs hardware don't come cheap. That's why most console used some are at least one year old techs before launch.

 

[Lactose_Intolerant]

Considering the price of these cards. I can only imagine how expensive next gen consoles are going to be.
On top of that 8gb or 6gb of ram and advanced CPU. 599 minimum...

That's not going to happen either.

 

[JWong]

posted already?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxXk-iXLjiY&feature=youtu.be

I need one.