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[Bry0]

i got my 4080 around the 7900xtx launch when Best Buy members had some deals that brought the FE to like $1080. I was so pissed about the vapor chamber issues on the reference 7900xtx that I returned it and I needed a card. I don’t blame most for skipping the 4080. It’s a weird middle ground but it has served me well. If 4080ti really has those specs at $1200 then It’s the one to get til next gen.

 

[Sleepwalker]

I'm fine with my 4080. Next year is for PS5 Pro babe.

Haha, same. I managed to grab a 4080 under $900. Happy with that, love it.

 

[Black_Stride]

Yeah, normally 4080 is not good value, I was gonna go 4090, but I got a Z790 13700k+4080+32GB+850W build for 1660 after tax earlier, can't really complain for that.

A 4080 is 1200 dollars msrp before tax, how did you fit a 13700K, Z790 motherboard, 850W power supply and 32GB of RAM into 400 dollars when the 13700K by itself is 400 dollars?

 

[rofif]

This should have been the card at $1200 and the 4080 lower priced.

How the hell you fit the 4080 Ti between 4080 and 4090 as it is now? You either just go full 4090 or the 4080 buy makes no sense (it was already a tough sell)

They have to lower 4080 price.

No. Neither should be 1200 lol. That’s not acceptable for any gpu. Imo even 4090/titan.

 

[LectureMaster]

A 4080 is 1200 dollars msrp before tax, how did you fit a 13700K, Z790 motherboard, 850W power supply and 32GB of RAM into 400 dollars when the 13700K by itself is 400 dollars?

I meant a pre-build, typo, lol. Loads of coupon and cash back deals stacked.

It's not without drawback though, cooler is only 150 tdp, enough for 4k gaming, I'll see if it needs to be replaced next summer.

 

[hinch7]

RedgamingTech with more massive grains of salt on this.. timestamped below



Rumor for a new refresh line, starting next year. I guess with Blackwell being delayed to 2025 and with poor sales of RTX 4000 they are thinking rejigging their product stack. Be interesting if they go back to Super variant and updated Ti models with higher specs and memory. The new SKU's would essentially be put up against RDNA 4 and Battlemage (if true, that is).

 

[sendit]

Holy redundant cards. Just get a 4090 at this point. Wish Nvidia would stop with the stupid TI branding.

 

[Black_Stride]

Holy redundant cards. Just get a 4090 at this point. Wish Nvidia would stop with the stupid TI branding.

90% of the CUDA cores and 83% of the VRAM for 75% of the price.


P.S You do realize the name of the card is basically irrelevent as long as they arent actively trying to trick you like the 4080'16G and 4080'12G.

Everybody at this point knows xxTi is a stronger xx but not as strong as xx+10.
Everybody should know the 4080Ti is stronger than a 4080 but not as strong as a 4090.
So the naming isnt even confusing, though Ti cards used be released down the line when they got better yields ala 750Ti, they could get more from the chip.
The 750Ti used the full GM107 because in production they actually could manage 100% yield of that chip.
The 3070Ti came out cuz they could actually get 100% of the GA104.

 

[SmokedMeat]

Pointless card, but that’s Nvidia’s thing. Flood the market with fifty skus.

Guess they need a card in the $1400 slot.

 

[winjer]

These are probably defective chips that can't be used for the 4090, that were gathered since launch.
So it's either use them on a 4080Ti, or trash them.

 

[sendit]

90% of the CUDA cores and 83% of the VRAM for 75% of the price.


P.S You do realize the name of the card is basically irrelevent as long as they arent actively trying to trick you like the 4080'16G and 4080'12G.

Everybody at this point knows xxTi is a stronger xx but not as strong as xx+10.
Everybody should know the 4080Ti is stronger than a 4080 but not as strong as a 4090.
So the naming isnt even confusing, though Ti cards used be released down the line when they got better yields ala 750Ti, they could get more from the chip.
The 750Ti used the full GM107 because in production they actually could manage 100% yield of that chip.
The 3070Ti came out cuz they could actually get 100% of the GA104.

Naming isn't confusing, I agree. However, the products are still redundant (Super && TI). The 4080 is 1199 MSRP, the 4090 is 1599 MSRP. A 4080 TI will probably be 1399/1499.

 

[Black_Stride]

These are probably defective chips that can't be used for the 4090, that were gathered since launch.
So it's either use them on a 4080Ti, or trash them.

The 4080'20G was leaked right around the launch of the RTX40s, so it was clearly in the pipeline.
Id think if they had defective 4090s they would use them in the RTX 5000A.
I guess if it was only marginally defective then they can use it in the 80Ti cuz the 5000A is quite a bit smaller in CUDA count than the 4090, let alone the full 102.

Naming isn't confusing, I agree. However, the products are still redundant (Super && TI). The 4080 is 1199 MSRP, the 4090 is 1599 MSRP. A 4080 TI will probably be 1399/1499.

This chip takes the price point of the 4080, the 4080 gets a price cut, cuz it really really needs one.

 

[winjer]

The 4080'20G was leaked right around the launch of the RTX40s, so it was clearly in the pipeline.
Id think if they had defective 4090s they would use them in the RTX 5000A.
I guess if it was only marginally defective then they can use it in the 80Ti cuz the 5000A is quite a bit smaller in CUDA count than the 4090, let alone the full 102.

This chip takes the price point of the 4080, the 4080 gets a price cut, cuz it really really needs one.

Of course it was in the pipeline. There is always chips that don't make the cut and are reused for a lower sku.

 

[TVexperto]

i literally just ordered a 4070 ti... good thing I can return it within 100 days for free

 

[poodaddy]

If this causes a notable price drop for the 4080 then I might actually jump in. I don't know though. I really don't need any other bills right now.

If it drops to compete with AMD, I wonder what the price will be exactly.

 

[winjer]

If this causes a notable price drop for the 4080 then I might actually jump in. I don't know though. I really don't need any other bills right now.

If it drops to compete with AMD, I wonder what the price will be exactly.

You can be sure that it won't.

 

[Dream-Knife]

In two-three years I would have gotten my moneys worth from the 4080'20G and would have saved enough for the 5080 anyway.

Waiting 2-3 years for the next big thing makes little sense because you are then 2-3 years away from the next big thing.

Next big thing is next year though.

This card looks like what the 4080 should have been all along.

Truthfully if you look at core percentage per chip, 4090 is the 80ti.

The 4080'20G was leaked right around the launch

So was the 3080 20 gb.

 

[poodaddy]

You can be sure that it won't.

Well that's a bummer :/

 

[night13x]

cool. Let me know when the RTX 5090 arrives so I can upgrade my RTX 4090.

 

[Black_Stride]

Next big thing is next year though.

Blackwell was delayed so its not coming out next year.

So was the 3080 20 gb.

This 3080'20G which was sold directly to miners because Nvidia are assholes?

You could probably still find them on the second hand market after the crypto crash

 

[Dream-Knife]

Blackwell was delayed so its not coming out next year.



This 3080'20G which was sold directly to miners because Nvidia are assholes?

You could probably still find them on the second hand market after the crypto crash

I had no idea that even came out. Wow.

Blackwell got delayed like how there won't be a new COD this year.

 

[shamoomoo]

NVidia really don’t have any decent competition.

Their AD102 chip and other dies launch in cut down configurations. They are so dominant, all they have to do is hang on to fully functional dies for future Ti or Super class cards. They could release a 4090Ti or Titan tomorrow with no development required. The fully unlocked AD102 has 10% - 15% more cuda cores than the 4090. With even faster memory, a fully functional AD102 based GPU could likely push frame-rates 20% higher than the already incredible 4090.

AMD strategy in the GPU space, though improved this past couple of generations is woefully inadequate. They are continually playing catch-up and have completely abandoned their sense of ambition. Tough times indeed given NVidias tendency to price gouge consumers.

I'm not sure if it's the same but I don't think their cuda cores scales as well with more SM as there was a huge gap between the 3080 and 3090. Also,the SM counts are really paired back between tiers of GPUs. As there is 30% difference between the 4070 TI and non TI.

 

[drotahorror]

Glad I got the 4090, it has been the best buy. I sold a kidney but hey, who needs two?!

Can you PM the details of who I need to get in contact with? thanks.

 

[Black_Stride]

Blackwell got delayed like how there won't be a new COD this year.

MW3 was originally gonna be a massive DLC, but alas Activision gonna Activision.

The Blackwell delay though thats almost certain, we would have atleast seen leaks on test chips by now if it were coming out next year.
These Ada leaks are from late 2020.....AD102 was only released in 2022.

NVIDIA AD102 (Lovelace) GPU rumored to offer up to 18432 CUDA cores - VideoCardz.com

New information on the NVIDIA AD102 graphics processor surfaces. NVIDIA Lovelace AD102 GPU A week ago we reported that NVIDIA will introduce a new graphics architecture named after Ada Lovelace. The series is expected to be NVIDIA’s next gaming architecture that could arrive even before Hopper...

videocardz.com

I could find more but the leaks for Ada were super accurate because these leakers are clearly working for AIBs or at factories.

The leaked roadmap which wasnt for our eyes clearly shows Ada-Next as being 2025 and not even early 2025, Nvidia have no reason to lie to AIBs and shareholders, they could lie to us though.

 

[PonyStation4]

Ive been asking for a 4080'20G since the chips were leaked.
It puts the 7900XTX and 4090 to shame cuz the 4080'20G at ~1100-1200 is a much much better deal than the 7900XTX at 1000 and 4090 at 1600.
Thats assuming the leaked core counts are accurate.

You said the 4080 may be getting a sizable pricecut yet think the 7900 XTX won't next year? What's the reasoning behind this?

 

[JohnnyFootball]

You can be sure that it won't.

How would it make sense to sell the 4080 Ti and 4080 at the same price? They'd likely lower the price of the 4080 to $999, which still sucks donkey balls.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

You said the 4080 may be getting a sizable pricecut yet think the 7900 XTX won't next year? What's the reasoning behind this?

Yeah, AMD has no issue lowering prices. I wish they'd realize that lowering their prices so quickly probably costs them a lot of sales in the long run. If they'd price a lower initially and keep it lower for longer, they'd likely get more sales. Once a product is seen as overpriced, it takes a while to recover from that.

 

[winjer]

How would it make sense to sell the 4080 Ti and 4080 at the same price? They'd likely lower the price of the 4080 to $999, which still sucks donkey balls.

Nvidia will just price it between the 4090 and 4080.

 

[Lucifers Beard]

My 3080 will last me long enough until the flagship 5000 card drops. Providing it's not a fucking disaster, I'll get that.

 

[Lillie]

are we going to buy the 4080 discounted? yes or no

 

[sendit]

The 4080'20G was leaked right around the launch of the RTX40s, so it was clearly in the pipeline.
Id think if they had defective 4090s they would use them in the RTX 5000A.
I guess if it was only marginally defective then they can use it in the 80Ti cuz the 5000A is quite a bit smaller in CUDA count than the 4090, let alone the full 102.

This chip takes the price point of the 4080, the 4080 gets a price cut, cuz it really really needs one.

The 3080 TI released at 1199 MSRP. I doubt a 4080 TI will take the 1199 price point of the 4080. It will be 1399-1499.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

are we going to buy the 4080 discounted? yes or no

Its a great card and priced right could make it a huge hit

 

[TheRedRiders]

RedgamingTech with more massive grains of salt on this.. timestamped below



Rumor for a new refresh line, starting next year. I guess with Blackwell being delayed to 2025 and with poor sales of RTX 4000 they are thinking rejigging their product stack. Be interesting if they go back to Super variant and updated Ti models with higher specs and memory. The new SKU's would essentially be put up against RDNA 4 and Battlemage (if true, that is).

If true - why the f are Nvidia so surprised that 40 Series didn't sell well, they knew dam well that the product stack was shit, and the priced it extremely poorly especially the 4080 (which itself is a crazy good card).

 

[TheRedRiders]

Its a great card and priced right could make it a huge hit

Exactly, had Nvidia priced the 4080 at 999 or less at launch, it would have killed all of RDNA 3 on arrival. Nvidia missed out on such a huge opportunity.

 

[Black_Stride]

Nvidia will just price it between the 4090 and 4080.

The 3080 TI released at 1199 MSRP. I doubt a 4080 TI will take the 1199 price point of the 4080. It will be 1399-1499.

93% of the price for 90% of the CUDA cores and 83% of the VRAM?

DOA.

 

[//DEVIL//]

Blackwell was delayed so its not coming out next year.



This 3080'20G which was sold directly to miners because Nvidia are assholes?

You could probably still find them on the second hand market after the crypto crash

the more you know.

wtf I didnt know that. how come none are available for sale used in Canada. was this china only ?

Also, seeing these kind of news. and the rumors of 5090 not coming till 2025, makes the 4090 purchase day one was absolutely the best choice I did. because ill not give a fuck about 4090 ti next year assuming they make one. I do not want that small jump in increase, il by default wait for the 5000 series.

watching people trying to sell their 3090ti in the marketplace here is just sad. so much money was lost.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Exactly, had Nvidia priced the 4080 at 999 or less at launch, it would have killed all of RDNA 3 on arrival. Nvidia missed out on such a huge opportunity.

Nvidia doesn't actually want to kill AMD outright. They don't like government antitrust action.

 

[TheRedRiders]

Nvidia doesn't actually want to kill AMD outright. They don't like government antitrust action.

Surely Nvidia pricing the 4080 at 999 wouldn't be enough to warrant an anti-trust probe.

 

[Kings Field]

I promised myself this year that when the 5000 series cards come out I'm gonna build my first rig. I can't put a four piece puzzle together but I'll fucking do it.

 

[sertopico]

Can you PM the details of who I need to get in contact with? thanks.

www.jp-organ.org

 

[Ginzeen]

I'm rocking the 4080 until the 6000 series

 

[drotahorror]

www.jp-organ.org

I was kidding you fucked up mufucker.

 

[ahtlas7]

I still haven’t upgraded my 3080. I thought I’d be missing out on some amazing eye candy by now but I’m not. Nvidia needs to give me a good reason to upgrade.

 

[YeulEmeralda]

I still haven’t upgraded my 3080. I thought I’d be missing out on some amazing eye candy by now but I’m not. Nvidia needs to give me a good reason to upgrade.

I mean your 3080 still easily beats anything the PS5 can do and games are made with consoles in mind.

 

[Hudo]

No. Neither should be 1200 lol. That’s not acceptable for any gpu. Imo even 4090/titan.

THis. The 4090 should've been at most $1000, for the "yo this is like the super-duper top model, man"-kind of consumer card.
The 4080 should've been $600. 4070 should've been $450. 4060 should've been $300.

I fucking hate that Nvidia aggressively try to normalize these ridiculous prices. And consumers are fucking buying it. Watch the 5090 push towards $2000 MSRP.

 

[Tokio Blues]

Would be an interesting upgrade from my 4070ti

 

[rsouzadk]

RedgamingTech with more massive grains of salt on this.. timestamped below



Rumor for a new refresh line, starting next year. I guess with Blackwell being delayed to 2025 and with poor sales of RTX 4000 they are thinking rejigging their product stack. Be interesting if they go back to Super variant and updated Ti models with higher specs and memory. The new SKU's would essentially be put up against RDNA 4 and Battlemage (if true, that is).

That 4070ti with the right price, would be a bang on 1440p folks.

 

[winjer]

93% of the price for 90% of the CUDA cores and 83% of the VRAM?

DOA.

How many nvidia GPUs that people say it's DOA, that are still selling?
Even the 4080, that most reviews said it was a bad deal, is selling pretty well.

 

[Black_Stride]

How many nvidia GPUs that people say it's DOA, that are still selling?
Even the 4080, that most reviews said it was a bad deal, is selling pretty well.

No lies detected.
Because, the damn RTX 3050 is in the top 10 on SteamSurvey
Although I wouldnt say the 4080 is selling pretty well, its the lowest RTX40 card even versus cards that came out like yesterday.

 

[winjer]

No lies detected.
Because, the damn RTX 3050 is in the top 10 on SteamSurvey
Although I wouldnt say the 4080 is selling pretty well, its the lowest RTX40 card even versus cards that came out like yesterday.

Considering how bad it is in value, the 4080 is selling very well.